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SOPA and PIPA: Your thoughts on free speech!

MUnRPI

MUnRPI

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Do you think that SOPA and PIPA would be an infringement on your freedom of speech? Or do you see the "blackout" protests of Wikepeida and other search engines as a knee jerk reaction to enhanced censorship legislation?

It is a very interesting debate, and one that I love discussing because it is not the same old "left vs. right" Washington shenanigans.
 
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MUnRPI said:
It is a very interesting debate, and one that I love discussing because it is not the same old "left vs. right" Washington shenanigans.
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But on this site, it will inevitably turn into that debate! Hell, we can turn a "Tastes great" versus "less filling" discussion into a left - right debate. ;)
 
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Interesting comment going around Facebook: under SOPA, you could get a longer sentence for uploading Michael Jackson's songs than the doctor who actually killed him.
 
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Honestly, I think the hysteria over this is a little out of control. As long as the bill stays with its original intentions of only going after foreign websites (i.e. nothing ending in .com, .net, .org) and only going after sites dedicated to infringing on copyrights, then I don't see it being much of a problem.

I've read a lot of wild stories about what could happen with this law, but all of them seem to be three or four steps down the line. It's like a lot of people are arguing that we shouldn't hand out life sentences for murder because that means then the government will start handing out lifetime prison sentences for parking tickets.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Honestly, I think the hysteria over this is a little out of control. As long as the bill stays with its original intentions of only going after foreign websites (i.e. nothing ending in .com, .net, .org) and only going after sites dedicated to infringing on copyrights, then I don't see it being much of a problem.

I've read a lot of wild stories about what could happen with this law, but all of them seem to be three or four steps down the line. It's like a lot of people are arguing that we shouldn't hand out life sentences for murder because that means then the government will start handing out lifetime prison sentences for parking tickets.
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How hilariously naive.
 
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MaizeRage said:
Honestly, I think the hysteria over this is a little out of control. As long as the bill stays with its original intentions of only going after foreign websites (i.e. nothing ending in .com, .net, .org) and only going after sites dedicated to infringing on copyrights, then I don't see it being much of a problem.

I've read a lot of wild stories about what could happen with this law, but all of them seem to be three or four steps down the line. It's like a lot of people are arguing that we shouldn't hand out life sentences for murder because that means then the government will start handing out lifetime prison sentences for parking tickets.
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Except since the wording is so general it can also be applied to any domestic site that allows for the possibility of a user posting or linking to copyrighted material. So this forum could be delinked from and shut down because someone could post a Simpsons video in one of the threads. (Note it doesn't even require that something actually be posted, it just requires that the site give a user an ability.)
 
French Rage said:
Except since the wording is so general it can also be applied to any domestic site that allows for the possibility of a user posting or linking to copyrighted material. So this forum could be delinked from and shut down because someone could post a Simpsons video in one of the threads. (Note it doesn't even require that something actually be posted, it just requires that the site give a user an ability.)
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And given the past actions of companies like Fox, the RIAA, and other groups, this is not outside the realm of possibility.
 
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This comment has been found in violation of H.R. 3261, S.O.P.A and has been removed.
 
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I understand why SOPA and PIPA are so bad. I haven't heard as much about PIPA, though. What's the big difference between it and SOPA?
 
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These bills are basically an effort to turn the current internet into another version of your cable or satellite programming where all that's available is what corporations wish you to have access to. It finally murders the fair use doctrine after it's been getting shot at by the **AA's for the past fifteen years and you have no recourse to defend yourself and in fact there is no requirement for you to even be informed until after your site has been revoked permanently.

We're all going to have to find something new to do instead of ****ing around on message boards if something this extreme ever passes.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
I think Pipa is a hottie, but don't tell my wife. :D
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Hmmm....

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Yeah, I'm inclined to agree.

Oh crap, now USCHO's about to be shut down. :mad:
 
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I went on /b for the first time in years to see how they felt about this. I lol'd.
 
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Doesn't the government know this is the only reason exists.

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MaizeRage said:
Honestly, I think the hysteria over this is a little out of control. As long as the bill stays with its original intentions of only going after foreign websites (i.e. nothing ending in .com, .net, .org) and only going after sites dedicated to infringing on copyrights, then I don't see it being much of a problem.

I've read a lot of wild stories about what could happen with this law, but all of them seem to be three or four steps down the line. It's like a lot of people are arguing that we shouldn't hand out life sentences for murder because that means then the government will start handing out lifetime prison sentences for parking tickets.
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slippery slope
 
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