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Smaller Schools......

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Brenthoven said:
I don't care about anyone else here. I just think you are incredibly moronic and delusional with your BTHC talk and thinking the smaller schools can not only survive, but somehow benefit.

Every reasonable dent in your thinking is immediately shot down by you with no retort that makes sense, because you are more stubborn than a mule, denser than lead, and have such a lack of intelligence that I'm amazed you are not in a group home somewhere.

Now, go away, <strike>LARRY E BLOOM</strike> cycle.
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And you are an effen ***, just like I said Penn State would go D1 someday 10 years ago. I dont want to see small schools fold but if they dont reinvent themselves they might have to sink instead of swim.......LOng Live BTHC...ahh ha ha ha!!!!
 
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cycledown said:
And you are an effen ***, just like I said Penn State would go D1 someday 10 years ago. I dont want to see small schools fold but if they dont reinvent themselves they might have to sink instead of swim.......LOng Live BTHC...ahh ha ha ha!!!!
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It doesn't matter if they reinvent themselves. Follow the dollar. With no bigtime revenue, the smaller schools will fold. They are folding as we speak (Wayne State, almost BGSU, etc) and that's without the BTHC.

Keep taking the bad brown acid. I'm sure the trip it gives you is a wild one. Maybe someday you can talk with the grownups, but until then, I can't help you.
 
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Brenthoven said:
It doesn't matter if they reinvent themselves. Follow the dollar. With no bigtime revenue, the smaller schools will fold. They are folding as we speak (Wayne State, almost BGSU, etc) and that's without the BTHC.

Keep taking the bad brown acid. I'm sure the trip it gives you is a wild one. Maybe someday you can talk with the grownups, but until then, I can't help you.
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Dont EVER think I need your help, they either sink or swim, so why anti BTHC when the teams you state are already folding without the existance of the issue. Shows me the BTHC cant be the problem you said so yourself
 
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cycledown said:
you still have to play the game, one way is for smaller schools to reinvent themselves, meaning put competitve teams on the ice. if there is a nonBT team beating BT teams surely that aspect is going to factor into non BTHC schools.
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"NonBT" teams beat "BT" teams all the time. I have no idea what your last sentence means in terms of TV $ which is one thing you listed. Minnesota has been getting crushed by "NonBT" teams the past few years (I hate admitting that). UND and DU have been as successful or more successful than any "BT" team out there. Not sure how they "reinvent" themselves? What are you proposing? Look at how many "NonBT" teams made the tournament last year. In fact, look at how many teams that were "NonBT" teams were #1 seeds. BC, Miami, and Denver.
 
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cycledown said:
you still have to play the game, one way is for smaller schools to reinvent themselves, meaning put competitve teams on the ice. if there is a nonBT team beating BT teams surely that aspect is going to factor into non BTHC schools.
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Reinvent themselves? SCSU already puts a competitive product on the ice nearly every year. The BTN still will not air that game.

I now must go wash my mouth out with soap
 
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HoosierBBall_GopherHockey said:
"NonBT" teams beat "BT" teams all the time. I have no idea what your last sentence means in terms of TV $ which is one thing you listed. Minnesota has been getting crushed by "NonBT" teams the past few years (I hate admitting that). UND and DU have been as successful or more successful than any "BT" team out there. Not sure how they "reinvent" themselves? What are you proposing? Look at how many "NonBT" teams made the tournament last year. In fact, look at how many teams that were "NonBT" teams were #1 seeds. BC, Miami, and Denver.
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Just like your boy Brent said teams are folding without the BTHC, so how come you are so anti on the issue? Sounds like BTHC might help them out, you and BRent just got owned as hypocrits. BTHC was never the issue for teams going belly up, if they going under as we speak.
 
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cycledown said:
Just like your boy Brent said teams are folding without the BTHC, so how come you are so anti on the issue? Sounds like BTHC might help them out, you and BRent just got owned as hypocrits. BTHC was never the issue for teams going belly up, if they going under as we speak.
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My boy Brent? I have never met/talked to the guy in my life. The only way we are connected is we are Gopher fans. How does the BTHC help them out? You STILL have not answered that question.
 
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cycledown said:
you still have to play the game, one way is for smaller schools to reinvent themselves, meaning put competitve teams on the ice. if there is a nonBT team beating BT teams surely that aspect is going to factor into non BTHC schools.
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Now I don't care too much in the conversation either way but I wonder how you would plan to get those smaller schools to put more competitive teams on the ice?

Aren't they trying to do that already?

Do you think WMU, LSSU, MTU, etc. want to be at the bottom of their respective leagues in record and talent?

Look, that rationale works really well in the pros. If you want to change your team's luck, change your system and acquire guys to match it. That takes money. Well, LSSU can't go out and sign recruits to contracts like the pros do. That'd be called an NCAA violation.

I just don't see a smaller school like UAA and all outbidding a BT team or a proven bigger hockey school (like BC, BU, UND, etc.) for top recruits.

And trust me, it's harder to find those diamonds in the rough than the schools that find them would like you to believe.

So anyways, in theory, you are right. Winning cures most if not all ills. However, I doubt it would be that easy to accomplish when the bigger and better and more proven schools have a far easier time attracting the talent you would need to make your team more competitive.
 
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Brenthoven said:
It doesn't matter if they reinvent themselves. Follow the dollar. With no bigtime revenue, the smaller schools will fold. They are folding as we speak (Wayne State, almost BGSU, etc) and that's without the BTHC.

Keep taking the bad brown acid. I'm sure the trip it gives you is a wild one. Maybe someday you can talk with the grownups, but until then, I can't help you.
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EXPOSED.......Teams are already folding and the issue doesnt even exist!!!!!!

WHAT HAVE WE HERE???

EXPOSED.
 
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I find it amusing that cycledown started a thread about how the BTHC could benefit smaller school, has posted 18 time so far in the thread and has not given one benefit.

It's rather useless to attempt engaging a person when he won't even talk about a topic he brought up.
 
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cycledown said:
EXPOSED.......Teams are already folding and the issue doesnt even exist!!!!!!

WHAT HAVE WE HERE???
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We have what could possibly be an accelerant to other programs folding, thus not giving them time to "reinvent themselves" and become viable again...
 
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cycledown said:
JCarter What cant you reply about the smaller schools and stay with the thread, my bad you are scared of the BTHC which doesnt exist and you have pack mentality because HOOSIER cant rant for himself.
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jcarter7669 said:
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Enough of Jcarter....the med line has been overkilled today and wrongfully on another thread. Dirty it sounds like to me that the schools are already folding without the issue, I would have to think that those smaller schools will have to reaglin and win those conference titles to move on to the postseason. Correct me if Im wrong does the postseason create more revenue?

Small schools might have to cancel other programs that dont make as much money, now if the hockey team is dragging down the school budget the logical thing is to cut the hockey.
 
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cycledown said:
Enough of Jcarter....the med line has been overkilled today and wrongfully on another thread. Dirty it sounds like to me that the schools are already folding without the issue, I would have to think that those smaller schools will have to reaglin and win those conference title to move on to the postseason. Correct me if Im wrong does the postseason create more revenue?
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Yes, but the extra revenue will not touch what the WCHA revenue was with MN/WI. So I will ask again...how does a BTHC help the smaller schools?
 
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cycledown said:
Good, that leaves you out of the coversation because you cant understand the angle.
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you keep talking about this angle...but you don't like it when folks, who come the small school perspective, tell there is no benefit to the smaller schools you tell us we "can't understand the angle"...then, please, define it for us because you've yet to do it...
 
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Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, UND did not recieve post season NCAA revenue when they were a D2 school. If I'm correct, this applies to many small schools.

UND, along with every WCHA school, receive an equal share of the WCHA post season revenue. Without Minnesota and Wisconsin, that share of revenue will drop.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Yes, but the extra revenue will not touch what the WCHA revenue was with MN/WI. So I will ask again...how does a BTHC help the smaller schools?
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maintain the current schedule keep playing BT teams......go back and read the thread starter, all along I was looking for group discussion to talk about smaller schools and what do I find out? Anti BTHC people claim that schools are folding without the conference in place and the wolfpack were looking for someone to take the issue out on but that didnt happen either.

pointing fingers Never results in solutions.
 
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cycledown said:
maintain the current schedule keep playing BT teams....
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They would love to. The issue comes in that the Big Ten teams will want to play them at home so they can make more money. I don't see a lot of return trips to play at small schools, which is what would help them.
 
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What benefit is it to play Big 10 teams if the BTHC is created? The Big 10 schools will likely insist on playing at their place. Sure, they have most likely 14 non-conference games available. I would be willing to bet that at least 12 of them wil be home games for the Big 10 schools. So unless they give a little payday to the teams, there is little benefit monetarily to playing them.
 
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