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Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Second
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manurespreader
Still upright
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
So here is my question. Since connelly and faulkner both got game misconducts, what is the rule about when you miss the next game which would be against us on friday and when not. I read the book and it wasn't clear to me whether they were going to miss anything but the game they were playing in.
So here is my question. Since connelly and faulkner both got game misconducts, what is the rule about when you miss the next game which would be against us on friday and when not. I read the book and it wasn't clear to me whether they were going to miss anything but the game they were playing in.
Flashy Man
Misfit Emeritus
They would have to get a Game Disqualification to miss a game.
huskyfan
New member
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
ok. now I feel guilty for throwing such a hissy fit last night.
ok. now I feel guilty for throwing such a hissy fit last night.
huskyfan
New member
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
I think Anchorage would like him back.
I think Anchorage would like him back.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Who should tech get to coach next year? I think they have to go a different dirrection, not an alum this time. It hasn't worked. I said before, Cary Eades would be my top choice. Who else is out there?
Who should tech get to coach next year? I think they have to go a different dirrection, not an alum this time. It hasn't worked. I said before, Cary Eades would be my top choice. Who else is out there?
MTUHatTrick84
Waiting To Win It All
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
I think it is telling that the attendance was awful both nights this weekend, and the place was a tomb on Saturday. Like I said in the series thread, they were checking people's pulses to make sure there were living bodies in the arena and waking people up at the end of the game and telling them that it was time to go home. Saying that attendance broke 2,000 for either of those games is a joke. But then again, there are a lot of things that are jokes up the hill.
I also think it is telling that, a few posts ago, manuerspreader made the point that the team has had no jump for the second game of the weekend for three series in a row. Interesting coincidence. That sounds like a strength and conditioning problem to me, that the team just does not have the endurance to make it through a weekend of hockey. Other teams are able to come out on the back end and just take it to us. I thought a change in the strength and conditioning department a couple of years ago and the investment in the skating treadmill were supposed to make Tech a team with superior conditioning and a team that would get stronger as the game wore on. That is obviously not the case. Combine that with the common occurrence of injuries, and I think you have a good idea where one of the problems is.
Breakdowns on defense and not being able to clear the zone. We have been talking about that for years, despite it being a 'fixable' problem. I think that falls under the category of being ready to play, which falls mainly in the realm of practice time/repetition during the week/coaching. The systems are not working, and that falls on the shoulder of the players (who fail to execute it) and the coaches (who fail to make the right adjustments based on personnel).
Friday was smoke and mirrors and a very lucky tying goal. But the team played hard, and there was fight in them. Saturday was absolutely pathetic. There was not a single thing the team did right. They were not in sync with each other, they were not physical with the other team. It took until well into the second period for them to even get to double digits in the shot column. 11 shots in two periods? Does not sound like a winning recipe to me. Somebody should have reminded them that the game started two hours earlier than normal?
It is clear that this is not all Jamie Russell. It is clear that this is not entirely strength and conditioning. It is clear that this is not all on the players. It is clear that this is not all on the athletic department. However, the cumulative effect of the failures in all of these facets has resulted in an 18 game winless streak (0-16-2) and some of the darkest days this program has seen. With Duluth coming to town next weekend, it is likely that we will reach the 20 game winless plateau, which has not been seen at this University. The cumulative addition of these failures is the definition of what I call the culture of hockey at Michigan Tech.
They can't even give away the entire student allotment of tickets. The community has lost interest. There is a great disconnect between the main campus and what is going on up the hill (in all sports, even the ones that are successful). There is no return on investment, both from a financial and emotional standpoint. Things are bleak, and something must be done to change the momentum. Obviously, the AD is doing something right on the D2 side of the building, so that department deserves to stay. It really isn't feasible to just not renew the scholarships of a great number of players, so that isn't a logical option. So you look at the coaching staff, and the strength and conditioning staff. And there, you have to make the change.
I think it is telling that the attendance was awful both nights this weekend, and the place was a tomb on Saturday. Like I said in the series thread, they were checking people's pulses to make sure there were living bodies in the arena and waking people up at the end of the game and telling them that it was time to go home. Saying that attendance broke 2,000 for either of those games is a joke. But then again, there are a lot of things that are jokes up the hill.
I also think it is telling that, a few posts ago, manuerspreader made the point that the team has had no jump for the second game of the weekend for three series in a row. Interesting coincidence. That sounds like a strength and conditioning problem to me, that the team just does not have the endurance to make it through a weekend of hockey. Other teams are able to come out on the back end and just take it to us. I thought a change in the strength and conditioning department a couple of years ago and the investment in the skating treadmill were supposed to make Tech a team with superior conditioning and a team that would get stronger as the game wore on. That is obviously not the case. Combine that with the common occurrence of injuries, and I think you have a good idea where one of the problems is.
Breakdowns on defense and not being able to clear the zone. We have been talking about that for years, despite it being a 'fixable' problem. I think that falls under the category of being ready to play, which falls mainly in the realm of practice time/repetition during the week/coaching. The systems are not working, and that falls on the shoulder of the players (who fail to execute it) and the coaches (who fail to make the right adjustments based on personnel).
Friday was smoke and mirrors and a very lucky tying goal. But the team played hard, and there was fight in them. Saturday was absolutely pathetic. There was not a single thing the team did right. They were not in sync with each other, they were not physical with the other team. It took until well into the second period for them to even get to double digits in the shot column. 11 shots in two periods? Does not sound like a winning recipe to me. Somebody should have reminded them that the game started two hours earlier than normal?
It is clear that this is not all Jamie Russell. It is clear that this is not entirely strength and conditioning. It is clear that this is not all on the players. It is clear that this is not all on the athletic department. However, the cumulative effect of the failures in all of these facets has resulted in an 18 game winless streak (0-16-2) and some of the darkest days this program has seen. With Duluth coming to town next weekend, it is likely that we will reach the 20 game winless plateau, which has not been seen at this University. The cumulative addition of these failures is the definition of what I call the culture of hockey at Michigan Tech.
They can't even give away the entire student allotment of tickets. The community has lost interest. There is a great disconnect between the main campus and what is going on up the hill (in all sports, even the ones that are successful). There is no return on investment, both from a financial and emotional standpoint. Things are bleak, and something must be done to change the momentum. Obviously, the AD is doing something right on the D2 side of the building, so that department deserves to stay. It really isn't feasible to just not renew the scholarships of a great number of players, so that isn't a logical option. So you look at the coaching staff, and the strength and conditioning staff. And there, you have to make the change.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Even if the problem is strength and conditioning it is part of the head coach's job to realize it and fix that problem. I have defended the coach every time this conversation has come up in the past, but this time is different. He's had enough time, and its just not working. A change is needed.
Even if the problem is strength and conditioning it is part of the head coach's job to realize it and fix that problem. I have defended the coach every time this conversation has come up in the past, but this time is different. He's had enough time, and its just not working. A change is needed.
Flashy Man
Misfit Emeritus
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
So we're at this crossroad where with a losing team it will be hard to seek to donations from donors, but in order to get back to prominence it will take a significant capital effort to get things moving. We need to start setting up endowments that will supplement the funding already budgeted by the athletic program. I feel that the athletic department at times has used donations to support the hockey program and transferred their budgeted amount to support the other programs. Of the revenue from the suites, very little actually goes to supporting the hockey program.
So we're at this crossroad where with a losing team it will be hard to seek to donations from donors, but in order to get back to prominence it will take a significant capital effort to get things moving. We need to start setting up endowments that will supplement the funding already budgeted by the athletic program. I feel that the athletic department at times has used donations to support the hockey program and transferred their budgeted amount to support the other programs. Of the revenue from the suites, very little actually goes to supporting the hockey program.
Flashy Man
Misfit Emeritus
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Also, I feel it's more important to increase funding for our assistant coaches. In comparison the assistant coaches are earning about $80k+ at UW-Madison, whereas here they are in the mid $40k. A lot of player development and recruiting lies with the assistant coaches, the head coach runs the ship, but the assistants deal with making it happen. It seems silly as a university that we went out and got someone who was formerly a volunteer and video coach who happened to be in the area interviewing for the head coaching position at Finlandia.
Also, I feel it's more important to increase funding for our assistant coaches. In comparison the assistant coaches are earning about $80k+ at UW-Madison, whereas here they are in the mid $40k. A lot of player development and recruiting lies with the assistant coaches, the head coach runs the ship, but the assistants deal with making it happen. It seems silly as a university that we went out and got someone who was formerly a volunteer and video coach who happened to be in the area interviewing for the head coaching position at Finlandia.
techcodemonkey
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Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
So I heard from a couple people that before the game on Saturday that the SLU players were running stairs pre-game...and our players....well....some of them were chewing tobacco.....great pre-game warm-up guys, great warmups.... **headdesk**
So I heard from a couple people that before the game on Saturday that the SLU players were running stairs pre-game...and our players....well....some of them were chewing tobacco.....great pre-game warm-up guys, great warmups.... **headdesk**
huskyfan
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Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
if true, disgusting.
if Tech is paying the assistants in the 40K range. well. you'll get what you pay for.
if true, disgusting.
if Tech is paying the assistants in the 40K range. well. you'll get what you pay for.
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
I was thinking Steve Rohlick from Ohio St/UMD. If he wants to be a head coach. I thought I heard he was a good recruiter and things look to be on the right track at Ohio St, so far.
I was thinking Steve Rohlick from Ohio St/UMD. If he wants to be a head coach. I thought I heard he was a good recruiter and things look to be on the right track at Ohio St, so far.
Cripes! Kids should know enuff already that chewing ain't good for them.
The_Commissioner
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Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Managing Tech's D2 programs, especially when football and basketball have successful veteran coaches, should be easier than managing a D1 program lost in a Perpetual Losing Culture (PLC). The football and basketball programs are taking care of business. The fact the hockey program is so non-competitive and has been for many years strongly suggests that the D1 part of the AD's job is too much to handle. If there is going to be a coaching change, the AD and quite possibly her boss, must change as well. Both of them tolerate the PLC in hockey and for this alum, I have to ask why anything bearing the Tech brand whether academic, athletic, or the arts is allowed to turn into an embarrassment.
Managing Tech's D2 programs, especially when football and basketball have successful veteran coaches, should be easier than managing a D1 program lost in a Perpetual Losing Culture (PLC). The football and basketball programs are taking care of business. The fact the hockey program is so non-competitive and has been for many years strongly suggests that the D1 part of the AD's job is too much to handle. If there is going to be a coaching change, the AD and quite possibly her boss, must change as well. Both of them tolerate the PLC in hockey and for this alum, I have to ask why anything bearing the Tech brand whether academic, athletic, or the arts is allowed to turn into an embarrassment.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Very likely true about the SLU players. They routinely do this pre-game, and I've seen them doing it after a Friday game as well as a means of "cooling down" and to keep their muscles loose for the Saturday night game. Bogosian (one of the Captains) is a machine when it comes to working out, and he makes everybody else match his effort, definitely a great leader. (FWIW, his brother Zach plays D for the Thrashers)
Very likely true about the SLU players. They routinely do this pre-game, and I've seen them doing it after a Friday game as well as a means of "cooling down" and to keep their muscles loose for the Saturday night game. Bogosian (one of the Captains) is a machine when it comes to working out, and he makes everybody else match his effort, definitely a great leader. (FWIW, his brother Zach plays D for the Thrashers)
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
He was brought up last night when shirtless guy and I were discussing it last night. It seems like he could be a potentially good candidate. I said earlier that we should go in a direction away from hiring an alum, but that is because tech probably wouldn't be able to get the 2 alumni coaches that shirtless guy and I thought would actually be a good hire, Rolston and Pearson. I also think that D3 Hamline's coach will be a good D1 coach at some point but he's most likely not ready to coach in the WCHA yet.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
I actually think we would have a slightly better shot at Rolston or Eades than Rohlik. Osiecki and Rohlik were teammates, it's only their first season at tOSU, and Rohlik is officially an associate head coach there. I don't see him going anywhere in the next 3-5 years, especially not Houghton.
Moot point though, since none of the four coaches mentioned are likely who we will wind up with.
I actually think we would have a slightly better shot at Rolston or Eades than Rohlik. Osiecki and Rohlik were teammates, it's only their first season at tOSU, and Rohlik is officially an associate head coach there. I don't see him going anywhere in the next 3-5 years, especially not Houghton.
Moot point though, since none of the four coaches mentioned are likely who we will wind up with.
oldish husky
New member
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
Change the AD's boss? Wouldn't that be the president? You can't possibly be suggesting that you get rid of the president of the university because the hockey team is losing??? I apologize if I have my mental org chart messed up.
Change the AD's boss? Wouldn't that be the president? You can't possibly be suggesting that you get rid of the president of the university because the hockey team is losing??? I apologize if I have my mental org chart messed up.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Severe Ronaldstorm Warning: the Michigan Tech 2010-11 Season Thread, Part the Sec
I know that we can't afford it, but I think the solution is to have a new position that would act as an AD for just the hockey program, maybe a Hockey General Manager. Sanregret is obviously doing a good job as AD for all other sports, and I don't think we can put much of the hockey failure on her. The idea that the school president should be fired because the hockey team sucks, is purely assinine. I'm not sure how the internal structure of the athletic department works, and maybe this suggestion is already the case, but I think that the AD needs to focus solely on the hockey program over the next 3-4 years, and delegate other work to an assistant AD. She should put all of her energy and time towards the hockey team. I don't know if it will help but is sure as hell won't hurt.
I know that we can't afford it, but I think the solution is to have a new position that would act as an AD for just the hockey program, maybe a Hockey General Manager. Sanregret is obviously doing a good job as AD for all other sports, and I don't think we can put much of the hockey failure on her. The idea that the school president should be fired because the hockey team sucks, is purely assinine. I'm not sure how the internal structure of the athletic department works, and maybe this suggestion is already the case, but I think that the AD needs to focus solely on the hockey program over the next 3-4 years, and delegate other work to an assistant AD. She should put all of her energy and time towards the hockey team. I don't know if it will help but is sure as hell won't hurt.
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