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Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Any team can point to a few games and say "if we'd only won those". The bigger, overall problem, is the conference as a whole not performing non-conference, and as Shirtless says, it is only a problem against Nacho teams.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Based on a quick analysis of a few games it looks like any 2 non-conference games flipped from a loss for the WCHA team to a win is about equal (~0.0034) to the number of RPI points that MTU would get from flipping any L-T, T-W...Michigan Tech has the 7th or 8th best record in the country right now depending of if you weight games, so in the grand scheme you can't really ask for more on that front.
 
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bose301s said:
Agreed, I think we should blame ourselves for our current predicament, not others.
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I do agree that Tech lost some games they should not have. However even if Tech was looking like a #1 regional seed, I would still have a huge issue with teams sporting 11, 12, 13 14 losses not only making the tourney, but not even sweating it out at this point.

Using straight math to determine the field gives you what you see this season. A team could start the season 20-0 and then lose every game for the rest of the season and be a solid tourney team because math is just numbers - too black/white for such a small number of teams to be selected. Especially when an AQ bumps one of the top 16 teams....

A nice change would be to have a non-top-16 AQ team get put into a play-in game. Don't penalize the top 16 teams because an unexpected team makes the field. For example if two conference tourney winners are not top 16:
AQ#2 vs #15 PWR winner becomes tourney seed #15
AQ#1 vs #16 PWR winner becomes tourney seed #16

Play-in games would be Thursday evening at the sites which have the #15 and #16 seeds.

Ryan J
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

That's true. Athough, losing third period leads back to back at home against a team that didn't make the playoffs is a whole other level of "should have".

Bigger picture, even thought the WCHA had a down year out of conference, it's still strong enough to support a non-champion at large team or two if that team takes care of their own business. It's unclear how Tech would do in NACHO this year. However, it is clear how Mankato and BGSU stacked up against those guys. So by extension, if Tech can't beat Mankato or BG this weekend (if they get by Ferris), then they will have lost to a team that NACHO killed already. As I see it, if Tech loses this weekend, they don't have nearly as strong an argument as they do heading in, and if they win, it takes care of itself.

WCHA needs to start scheduling CC and Western more. Or late season games against UNO. That would help the PWR comparisons with NCHC.



bigblue_dl said:
Any team can point to a few games and say "if we'd only won those". The bigger, overall problem, is the conference as a whole not performing non-conference, and as Shirtless says, it is only a problem against Nacho teams.
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oldish husky said:
WCHA needs to start scheduling CC and Western more. Or late season games against UNO. That would help the PWR comparisons with NCHC.
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WMU was 3-0-1 vs the WCHA this season (2-0 vs BG, 1-0-1 vs Ferris)
CC was 1-1 vs the WCHA this season (1-1 vs UAH)
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

John J. MacInnes said:
WMU was 3-0-1 vs the WCHA this season (2-0 vs BG, 1-0-1 vs Ferris)
CC was 1-1 vs the WCHA this season (1-1 vs UAH)
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So what? MTU needs to schedule them more...the way to "beat" the pairwise is to win games against "bad" teams in a tough conference
 
Shirtless Guy said:
So what? MTU needs to schedule them more...the way to "beat" the pairwise is to win games against "bad" teams in a tough conference
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Seems like the way to level the PWR every year could be done with some coordination between the conferences. It would require a set NC schedule each year based on the previous years results.

If you finish in the top 4, your NC schedule would be against the top 4 from all the other conferences. So next year, MTU would play UND, BC, QU, UMinn, and RMU, same for #2's, #3's, and #4's. That should determine the "strongest" conference, and the SOS would fall out from there. Or something along these lines...

Seems like we should be able to do better than this random scheduling that yields a "strong" versus a "weak" conference.
 
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Superfly100 said:
Seems like the way to level the PWR every year could be done with some coordination between the conferences. It would require a set NC schedule each year based on the previous years results.

If you finish in the top 4, your NC schedule would be against the top 4 from all the other conferences. So next year, MTU would play UND, BC, QU, UMinn, and RMU, same for #2's, #3's, and #4's. That should determine the "strongest" conference, and the SOS would fall out from there. Or something along these lines...

Seems like we should be able to do better than this random scheduling that yields a "strong" versus a "weak" conference.
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who the hell is going to agree to that if it jeopardizes a schools chance at making the NCAA? Especially if it means the B1G School scheduling an equal number of road games and the eastern schools having to travel west?
/sarcasm
On the NC note, its really sad for the WCHA this year...best or 2nd best record in the country against each conference except for the NCHC, the conference they played most, and they were awful in those games. WCHA needs to find a way to schedule more games against ECAC/HEA/AHA.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
who the hell is going to agree to that if it jeopardizes a schools chance at making the NCAA? Especially if it means the B1G School scheduling an equal number of road games and the eastern schools having to travel west?
/sarcasm
On the NC note, its really sad for the WCHA this year...best or 2nd best record in the country against each conference except for the NCHC, the conference they played most, and they were awful in those games. WCHA needs to find a way to schedule more games against ECAC/HEA/AHA.
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I didn't say it would be well received. :). Just trying to come up with a more logical and transparent way to approach it. Could switch it up and have #1's vs #4's and #2's vs #3's.

Not sure what to think about this year vs NCHC. We did do well against all the other conferences.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

So a poor WCHA vs. NCHC record, weren't most of those games on the road?


Tech picked up a recruit today, maybe a guy that visited this weekend?
Tommy Parrottino - 1998 birthday, just turned 18
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233491

Tommy Parrottino ‏@tparrottino Very proud and excited to announce my commitment to play college hockey at @mtuhky . Huge thanks everyone who has helped along the way!
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Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

mtu_huskies said:
So a poor WCHA vs. NCHC record, weren't most of those games on the road?
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12 home games, 9 road games, 4 neutral site...

mtu_huskies said:
Tech picked up a recruit today, maybe a guy that visited this weekend?
Tommy Parrottino - 1998 birthday, just turned 18
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=233491
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Looks like he should be a good one, doing well in the Tier 1 Elite League...missed my chance to see him and Colin Swoyer about a month ago in Blaine.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

The eastern teams do travel west, but not often. A couple of years ago Yale went to play denver for two. And I think they were pretty unhappy with the refs. Same has happened in the reverse direction with WCHA teams feeling they did not get a fair shake. In particular when Mankato went to Providence and LSSu to Notre Dame. Both coaches were unhappy.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
So what? MTU needs to schedule them more...the way to "beat" the pairwise is to win games against "bad" teams in a tough conference
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Disagree. Beating bad teams gains you nothing.As the old saying goes " In order to be the best you have to beat the best". Never try to beat the system. That is for losers.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Why are some bringing up the fact we lost in early December to Alaska Anchorage. It is what it is. If we win our games this weekend we are in the Tournament. We control our own destiny, plain and simple.
 
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Wi.Huskies Fan said:
Disagree. Beating bad teams gains you nothing.As the old saying goes " In order to be the best you have to beat the best". Never try to beat the system. That is for losers.
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WMU is a team we should schedule, period. They are in the best conference in the country, an in-state opponent, another chance to play games close to the Detroit alumni base and they help our PWR. I also love the ideas that Pearson has mentioned on various MPS episodes: Union, UMD, UND, Notre Dame, SCSU, UNO...and the participation in the Icebreaker in Duluth in 2017 will be wonderful. You say don't beat the system, but the system is already setup to beat MTU. They need to look at their NC schedule and serious think about the implications of every choice they can make. They chose not to play another series this season that they could have, and that could end up biting them. I'm sure it was a relatively easy decision because Mel didn't want to go on the road, but a home sweep of Army (a team with available games) would have gone a long way to locking in a spot right now.

Michigan Tech has to take every advantage it can find to get back to the tournament every year the team plays well enough to deserve it. They have to really think about that 4th spot in the GLI and not scheduling LSSU in non-conference and trying to play better teams from out east than Connecticut. I love the idea of 2 year, MTU/NMU vs/at RPI/Union or StL/Clarkson deal. It would be great for both the UP schools and certainly help our PWR chances.
 
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