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SCOTUS 13: Confirmation consternation contemplation

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Brenthoven said:
Yes, he actually did. I literally sat back, read, re-read, then re-read it. Read the bold.
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He never said anyone deserves MORE privilege, he said some people need more EFFORT to get the same privileges. Those are two very different things.
 
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jerphisch said:
He never said anyone deserves MORE privilege, he said some people need more EFFORT to get the same privileges. Those are two very different things.
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The sentiment is the same. We need to treat minorities differently than white folk. That is wrong, on all levels.
 
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Brenthoven said:
The sentiment is the same. We need to treat minorities differently than white folk. That is wrong, on all levels.
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Yes, we treat minorities like garbage, which is why they need more effort to receive the same privileges. If you can't acknowledge that, quite simply, you are racist.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Said literally no one.

You are the most quixotic and bromidic debater I've ever come across.




and if you need change for those words, I have singles.
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Let's put this in words you can understand: you are the whitest person I know, your white guilt is showing, and your condescension towards others is HOF material.
 
jerphisch said:
Yes, we treat minorities like garbage, which is why they need more effort to receive the same privileges. If you can't acknowledge that, quite simply, you are racist.
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This is how MAGA started, no? White men not grasping this
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yes, he actually did. I literally sat back, read, re-read, then re-read it. Read the bold.
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Nope. I said they don't deserve the same effort. This was the revelation I had about seven or eight years ago when I stopped supporting conservatives. They sh-t all over women, gays, minorities, and every other protected class on a daily basis. Whether it's trying to prevent them from voting, keeping them poor and transferring their money to the 1%, destroying labor rights, sticking their heads into the OB/GYN office, allowing legalized discrimination, and a million other horrible amoral positions.

Society already sh-ts on these groups as a whole and the GOP hasn't made a decision in 30 years to help them out. They deserve our effort, not you or me.
 
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jerphisch said:
He never said anyone deserves MORE privilege, he said some people need more EFFORT to get the same privileges. Those are two very different things.
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Thank you! I'm glad someone understands what I'm saying. It's an incredibly important distinction.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
This is how MAGA started, no? White men not grasping this
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Oh, gee, minorities are lesser than the white folk, so they need our help.

How is that not racist/condescending? I feel they are fully capable of standing up for themselves. I don't see other races/ethnicities as lesser than me. I see them as equal.
 
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Minorities need more help because they are lesser than white people in this society.

Clear as day. That is saying that minorities cannot fight for themselves.

It's bullsh*. I'm LITERALLY SAYING they can stick up for themselves, and some of you are saying "Nope, they need whitey's help."
 
Brenthoven said:
Minorities need more help because they are lesser than white people in this society.

Clear as day. That is saying that minorities cannot fight for themselves.

It's bullsh*. I'm LITERALLY SAYING they can stick up for themselves, and some of you are saying "Nope, they need whitey's help."
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Sorry, but you are a ****ing idiot. You seem completely incapable of comprehending the point here.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I'm LITERALLY SAYING they can stick up for themselves
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Wait. You said this but rich, white, straight, christian Bert Kavelkade deserves your effort and you feel the deep burning need to stick up for him?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Wait. You said this but rich, white, straight, christian Bert Kavelkade deserves your effort and you feel the deep burning need to stick up for him?
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Never said that. Just because I'm not condemning him AT THIS TIME for sexual assault, doesn't mean I'm defending him. I want the results of the investigation.
 
Brenthoven said:
Never said that. Just because I'm not condemning him AT THIS TIME for sexual assault, doesn't mean I'm defending him. I want the results of the investigation.
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I doubt the investigation will prove beyond a doubt that he did it.
All I'm expecting is to catch him in lies...which should disqualify him.
 
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First Time said:
I doubt the investigation will prove beyond a doubt that he did it.
All I'm expecting is to catch him in lies...which should disqualify him.
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He should be DQ'd right now. There's enough questions.

My take is simply that we don't label him as a sex offender (legal classification or not) without proof.
 
Brenthoven said:
The sentiment is the same. We need to treat minorities differently than white folk. That is wrong, on all levels.
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Minoriities ARE being treated differently. i.e. discrimination. Those of us that are privileged need to recognize that institutionalized racism exists. We are the ones in a position to do something about it. Minorities are sent to underfunded ****ty public schools. They’re sent to jail more often for the same crimes. They’re discriminated against for employment and housing. They’re discouraged from voting. It’s not just a matter of them “sticking up for themselves”.

Your position is actually pretty racist.
 
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