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Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

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I agree with this list exactly, so it must be science.
 
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joecct said:
Livers are rationed for transplant by geographic region. Who knew?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ia/TbfleFMkaYqUzW11TSpl7I/story.html#comments
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*raises hand* I work in a transplant hospital. We had a patient whose liver transplant failed and the likelihood of her getting another in New England was minimal. Her mother was trying to drive her to Florida where you can get livers much more quickly, but she became too sick and ended up here, where she died waiting.
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...in-scalia.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

In 1981, the Louisiana Legislature passed a law that forbade public schools to teach evolution without also instructing students on “creation science.” The Creationism Act was challenged in court for breaching the constitutional wall between church and state, in a case that reached the Supreme Court in 1986. For seven justices, the decision involved a simple constitutional question. They saw the law as an effort to force religious belief into the science curriculum, and they struck it down.

Justice Antonin Scalia dissented. He saw the case as a question about certainty: What can we really know for sure? Pointing to “ample uncontradicted testimony that ‘creation science’ is a body of scientific knowledge, rather than revealed belief,” he chided his colleagues for treating the evidence for evolution as “conclusive.”

Scalia’s opinion, joined only by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, drew a pained response from the Harvard biologist Stephen Jay Gould. “I regret to say that Justice Scalia does not understand the subject matter of evolutionary biology,” Gould wrote in a natural-history journal. “We are not blessed with absolute certainty about any fact of nature, but evolution is as well confirmed as anything we know.” Scalia, a conservative Catholic, defined evolution, like the creation story in Genesis, as a means to discover “the origin of life.” But scientists don’t try to reach that ultimate answer, Gould wrote. “We know that we can’t, and we do not even consider such a question as part of science.”
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Science is dead.
 
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St. Clown said:
The whole article is about a man who himself is now dead, yet science is what died and not the dissenter of science?

Your handwringing is reaching new heights.
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Considering the man who is dead is going to be the standard for Supreme Court Appointments in this country for the next 78 years. Yes, science is dead.

I could post an article a day giving evidence to science dying in the United States.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...in-scalia.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Science is dead.
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No, these baboons always use that argument when they want to close their eyes and put their magic book ahead of the facts.

Arguments like Scalia's, and men like Scalia, will always exist. They are the opposite of the spirit of open inquiry that drives science. They are people who take Augustine's cue: "first believe, and then you will know." They have never escaped that 4th century mindset. The fact that they exist and even that they influence policy only demonstrates what we already understand: the lizard brain will always be among us. That has nothing to do with the progress or the health of science. Those who will close their eyes tight and swallow myth instead of facing (and enjoying!) the fundamental uncertainty of the universe will always be the vast majority of us monkey people. They will always clutch their guns and bibles and borders and superstitions.

Our job has been, for 2500 years ever since Thales started f-cking around with geometry, to edge towards the door, assuring them all is well, until we can finally make a break for it out among the stars and leave them to the dungheap of their demon haunted world.
 
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Kepler said:
Won't the moon just keep receding? Our progress is great, but it seems asymptotic -- we'll never hit 100 with cancer because cancer is by definition a set of stuff we haven't cured yet?

Or is there a true goalline that can, in principle, be crossed?
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Is the cancer definition that broad? I thought cancer cells were at least partially a defined entity?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Is the cancer definition that broad? I thought cancer cells were at least partially a defined entity?
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I thought cancer cells were just cells that start reproducing wildly. So it's like trying to cure "falling": no matter how many guardrails you put up, people will still fall off stuff. Likewise, cells will still overclock sometimes, but we can do a really good job of continuing to identify and rectify situations in which they do, thus making it more and more rare.
 
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Kepler said:
I thought cancer cells were just cells that start reproducing wildly. So it's like trying to cure "falling": no matter how many guardrails you put up, people will still fall off stuff. Likewise, cells will still overclock sometimes, but we can do a really good job of continuing to identify and rectify situations in which they do, thus making it more and more rare.
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That makes sense I guess.
 
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I'm missing something here. Why is it such a big deal that this is extra-galactic? Even if it were in the MW I would think it could still be a phenomenon we'd also expect in other galaxies.
 
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Maybe we can use this.

Trump likes NASA and space and hates the Chinese, and he's a dingbat. This seems like a perfect storm to create another big push for the US space program. He's also a "dur, bizniss is the Guardians of the Galaxy, like ME, dur" type, so we can get privatization off the ground.

Maybe our monkey territoriality and violence can be used for good for once.
 
Kepler said:
Maybe we can use this.

Trump likes NASA and space and hates the Chinese, and he's a dingbat. This seems like a perfect storm to create another big push for the US space program. He's also a "dur, bizniss is the Guardians of the Galaxy, like ME, dur" type, so we can get privatization off the ground.

Maybe our monkey territoriality and violence can be used for good for once.
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NASA is talking about the Jupiter Trojans. Does anyone know if they're talking about the Fore (L4) or Aft (L5) Trojans?
 
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