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Science: Everything explained by PV=nRT, F=ma=Gm(1)•m(2)/r^2

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-...k-ovink-hurricane-florence-damage-60-minutes/

Saw this on 60 Minutes yesterday. The Dutch had a bad Storm Surge in the 50's. So they changed the way they do things and they haven't had a storm surge problem since. But here in the US we just keep rebuilding everything exactly the same and keep funneling billions of dollars into things that we know will eventually be destroyed.

Why? Why is America this ****ing dumb?
 
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-...k-ovink-hurricane-florence-damage-60-minutes/

Saw this on 60 Minutes yesterday. The Dutch had a bad Storm Surge in the 50's. So they changed the way they do things and they haven't had a storm surge problem since. But here in the US we just keep rebuilding everything exactly the same and keep funneling billions of dollars into things that we know will eventually be destroyed.

Why? Why is America this ****ing dumb?

Well, you gave us the link that stated the NC state legislature banned the use of science in affecting is laws. I really think we should leave NC to its own devices and see where that gets them. Maybe then they'd understand what Puerto Rico has gone through this past year.
 
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Well, you gave us the link that stated the NC state legislature banned the use of science in affecting is laws. I really think we should leave NC to its own devices and see where that gets them. Maybe then they'd understand what Puerto Rico has gone through this past year.

Weird. Link works for me. Search for "60 Minutes How Dutch stormwater management" in Google and it should give you the right thing.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/storm-...k-ovink-hurricane-florence-damage-60-minutes/

Saw this on 60 Minutes yesterday. The Dutch had a bad Storm Surge in the 50's. So they changed the way they do things and they haven't had a storm surge problem since. But here in the US we just keep rebuilding everything exactly the same and keep funneling billions of dollars into things that we know will eventually be destroyed.

Why? Why is America this ****ing dumb?

We don't like dikes.
 
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We don't like dikes.

Well, their entire country is under sea level and they don't flood. Puerto Rico could be built that way. New Orleans, The East Coast. Florida, etc. Houston for cripes sake. Houston is a newer city and look at how bad they ****ed that up. It's like blind mice engineered the whole ****ing city.
 
Well, their entire country is under sea level and they don't flood. Puerto Rico could be built that way. New Orleans, The East Coast. Florida, etc. Houston for cripes sake. Houston is a newer city and look at how bad they ****ed that up. It's like blind mice engineered the whole ****ing city.

That much rain in a small area is going to flood, no matter what you do. You have to realize that the river is going to flood and flood bigly at some point and allow for pristine flood plains to allow the water to spill out safely.

For our brethren along the shore, they're called barrier islands for a reason.

New Orleans is a different case. It should have been Venice, but....
 
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That much rain in a small area is going to flood, no matter what you do. You have to realize that the river is going to flood and flood bigly at some point and allow for pristine flood plains to allow the water to spill out safely.

For our brethren along the shore, they're called barrier islands for a reason.

New Orleans is a different case. It should have been Venice, but....

The Dutch accounted for all of that. Watch the piece. Believe in Engineering. I do. Just not in this ****ing country.
 
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Weird. Link works for me. Search for "60 Minutes How Dutch stormwater management" in Google and it should give you the right thing.

No, sorry, I meant in an earlier post, prior to Florence making landfall you linked something I stated earlier.
 
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The Dutch accounted for all of that. Watch the piece. Believe in Engineering. I do. Just not in this ****ing country.
where is the money in that ?

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where is the money in that ?

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Yeah, that's what I figured. We never figured out the greed thing in America, did we? That there has to be a balance. It's not always just about max profit?

Whatever. Stupid country.
 
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World Health Organization endorses traditional Chinese medicine.

So much for do no harm.
 
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Well, their entire country is under sea level and they don't flood. Puerto Rico could be built that way. New Orleans, The East Coast. Florida, etc. Houston for cripes sake. Houston is a newer city and look at how bad they ****ed that up. It's like blind mice engineered the whole ****ing city.

Uh, Puerto Rico would not benefit by that. It's not an island that is flat and broad like Florida or Houston is. It's a very mountainous island, where there are a lot of dips and holes and rivers where water all goes to at the same time. And it's also very exposed, so that it's hardly can break up the winds- which end up being far more powerful at +4000ft (the highest point in Puerto Rico is 4390 ft).

A lot of the east coast is very much like that, too- where dykes and whatnot would have no effect at all.

What we should actually focus on is floodwater flow. And not obstruct that, like in Houston.
 
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Uh, Puerto Rico would not benefit by that. It's not an island that is flat and broad like Florida or Houston is. It's a very mountainous island, where there are a lot of dips and holes and rivers where water all goes to at the same time. And it's also very exposed, so that it's hardly can break up the winds- which end up being far more powerful at +4000ft (the highest point in Puerto Rico is 4390 ft).

A lot of the east coast is very much like that, too- where dykes and whatnot would have no effect at all.

What we should actually focus on is floodwater flow. And not obstruct that, like in Houston.

Fair enough. Never said the solutions had to be the same. Just that we are stupid which is beyond dispute at this point.
 
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Fair enough. Never said the solutions had to be the same. Just that we are stupid which is beyond dispute at this point.

I also don't think we are stupid, as we can easily come up with solutions that work. Ok, we are not stupid on a technical front. Where we are stupid is being so focused on money, profits, and no taxes that kills us.

Out tax money was the only money that ever sent a man to the moon and back. That will never happen again, as people don't care what they are getting with their tax money, other than the notion that money is being taken from them. And to MANY- that money is going to benefit people who they don't like. That's why we will never see Houston have sensible growth plans, nor New Orleans get an super effective dyke system, nor Puerto Rico to get a robust power system
 
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I also don't think we are stupid, as we can easily come up with solutions that work. Ok, we are not stupid on a technical front. Where we are stupid is being so focused on money, profits, and no taxes that kills us.

Out tax money was the only money that ever sent a man to the moon and back. That will never happen again, as people don't care what they are getting with their tax money, other than the notion that money is being taken from them. And to MANY- that money is going to benefit people who they don't like. That's why we will never see Houston have sensible growth plans, nor New Orleans get an super effective dyke system, nor Puerto Rico to get a robust power system

Sure. We're not stupid. People make huge profits and leave after the resource is exhausted a wasteland. And in the case of flooding, we privatize the profits (rebuilding) and socialize the losses. But, that's not stupid. It's just the right people, making the right money, at the right time.
 
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Sure. We're not stupid. People make huge profits and leave after the resource is exhausted a wasteland. And in the case of flooding, we privatize the profits (rebuilding) and socialize the losses. But, that's not stupid. It's just the right people, making the right money, at the right time.

That's greed driving the bus, not stupidity. Greed convincing people that money is more important than longevity. There's a difference.
 
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That's greed driving the bus, not stupidity. Greed convincing people that money is more important than longevity. There's a difference.

"Greed convincing people that money is more important than longevity." is just another way of saying stupidity.
 
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"Greed convincing people that money is more important than longevity." is just another way of saying stupidity.

Just want to point out that calling people stupid for the sake of being angry isn't getting us anywhere.

You'll get farther attacking greed and greedy people than calling people who side with them stupid. Few people like to accept insults.
 
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Just want to point out that calling people stupid for the sake of being angry isn't getting us anywhere.

You'll get farther attacking greed and greedy people than calling people who side with them stupid. Few people like to accept insults.

Being rational isn't getting us anywhere either. This country is headed down the toilet bowl and nothing is going to stop it. Greed comes to roost eventually. Kudos to the US for lasting as long as it did.
 
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