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Save Uah Hockey!

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aparch said:
Is Bemidji's Ice Hockey operating budget for 2009-2010 the SAME as it is for 2002-2003? Because NMU's is. Personally, I'd like my team to save $15k per year by not having to travel to Omaha or Alabama.
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... which ignores, again, the fact that UAH offered $70k to the CCHA, in perpetuity, to cover travel costs. Figure that gets divided seven ways each year by the schools who have to travel to Huntsville, and your trip is paid for.

But then given your .sig, I'm unlikely to sway you with any such arguments. Won't keep me from making them. :)

GFM
 
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gfmorris said:
... which ignores, again, the fact that UAH offered $70k to the CCHA, in perpetuity, to cover travel costs. Figure that gets divided seven ways each year by the schools who have to travel to Huntsville, and your trip is paid for.

But then given your .sig, I'm unlikely to sway you with any such arguments. Won't keep me from making them. :)

GFM
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15k > 10k ;)

And that's just me more being an a** and trying to have some balance to all the anti-CCHA rhetoric that was circling.



I do see how it's easy to plug in UAH instead of UNO and there be virtually zero differences; but with all the smaller schools struggling in recruiting, a trip to UAH is still a burden. The Ferris States, Lake States, and possibly even Western Michigan's cannot survive by bleeding money on road trips and having perennial losing teams. That money could be better used to improve the infrastructure and recruiting and compete against the Michigan/Michigan State/Notre Dames of the CCHA. If UAH is accepted to the CCHA, I would bet you could kiss BGSU and Ferris State goodbye.
 
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I really do hope that the UAH program finds a way to make it work, but I am also looking at reasons why some schools would oppose the bid of UAH to the CCHA. Each school bases its vote on what they feel is best for their program. I didn't see anyone from the WCHA inviting UAH to maintain their conference rivalry with Bemidji and admit them too. When it came time to find a 12th team to join the Beavers, the WCHA looked to Northern Michigan and Nebraska-Omaha, because those made better sense to their membership, both financially and logistically. To be honest about BSU, they only made those flights because they had no other options. They will be very happy to be bussing on all but one or two conference trips per year.
 
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aparch said:
Is Bemidji's Ice Hockey operating budget for 2009-2010 the SAME as it is for 2002-2003? Because NMU's is.
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Alright, let's compare '02-'03 then. BSU flew to conference games at Findlay, Niagara, UAH, Wayne (yep, BSU used to fly into Detroit) and Air Force, and bussed to n/c games at Mankato, Clarkson (I remember that they wanted to team build with a long bus trip to Ppotsdam), UMD, NoDak and Omaha, while NMU bused to LSSU twice, MTU once, Wisconsin, Miami, Omaha, Milwaukee, Ferris, Michigan, and Lansing.

davyd83 said:
To be honest about BSU, they only made those flights because they had no other options. They will be very happy to be bussing on all but one or two conference trips per year.
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I never said BSU isn't thrilled that their travel is decreasing. Back to comparing travel. Look at any BSU schedule I've posted, then look at the 2010-2011 BSU WCHA schedule. They've got one flight to Denver, and one n/c flight to UAH and every other series is a bus trip. Compare that to the six flights BSU is used to taking. Quite a change for the positive...

All I said re: NMU, is that if a school like BSU coould do it up to six times a year, Northern could do it once every other year. Especially with the depth of alumni base (especially hockey with a 25 year D-I head start on BSU, and all those pros I read about on the alumni board) of a school twice the size...
 
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aparch said:
15k > 10k ;)

And that's just me more being an a** and trying to have some balance to all the anti-CCHA rhetoric that was circling.



I do see how it's easy to plug in UAH instead of UNO and there be virtually zero differences; but with all the smaller schools struggling in recruiting, a trip to UAH is still a burden. The Ferris States, Lake States, and possibly even Western Michigan's cannot survive by bleeding money on road trips and having perennial losing teams. That money could be better used to improve the infrastructure and recruiting and compete against the Michigan/Michigan State/Notre Dames of the CCHA. If UAH is accepted to the CCHA, I would bet you could kiss BGSU and Ferris State goodbye.
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Well, but for the fact that I never thought ripping the CCHA for their decision made any sense. We still want a conference, and the CCHA makes the most sense for us.

Your argument would hold water if Western, Northern, and Ferris didn't come down here to play us---and I'm not talking in the Save UAH Hockey sense, but in the fact that WMU and NMU have been here before, and the FSU series was lined up last season before UNO left for the WCHA. If playing in Huntsville was such a burden, those schools wouldn't be doing it.

Oh, and BG wouldn't be coming here next year, either.

GFM <-- doesn't think the BG series was on the sched until after the tectonic shift, though.
 
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moose97 said:
... I know folks in Bemidji treat UAH as if it is a long trip/huge deal to get there, but UAA is now the new long trip/huge deal, and I'm guessing it'll blow UAH out of the water in terms of pain in the rear (from everything I'm told)...
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especially if the Redoubt Volcano blows while you're there ;)
 
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aparch said:
... ; but with all the smaller schools struggling in recruiting, a trip to UAH is still a burden. The Ferris States, Lake States, and possibly even Western Michigan's cannot survive by bleeding money on road trips and having perennial losing teams. That money could be better used to improve the infrastructure and recruiting and compete against the Michigan/Michigan State/Notre Dames of the CCHA. If UAH is accepted to the CCHA, I would bet you could kiss BGSU and Ferris State goodbye.
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The "recruiting" and "perennial losing teams" issues have got to be major factors working against UAH. Those "perennial losing teams" have got to be mighty afraid of having to try recruit against UAH if it's in the same conference, and they have got to be mighty afraid of the what might happen if they started also losing regularly to a team from Alabama .
 
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Glad someone dug this thread up, think the CCHA will reconsider after UAH kicks one of their teams in the butt first round of the big skate?
 
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quiddlet said:
Glad someone dug this thread up, think the CCHA will reconsider after UAH kicks one of their teams in the butt first round of the big skate?
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Probably not. 2010-11 is set in stone. 11-12 would probably take a miracle. I figure UAH is in for two, maybe three years as an independent before the logjam breaks.

Got 30 games as an indie next year, and have some games all the way until '14. Keep encouraging your schools to keep playing UAH, especially in January and February, especially in Huntsville from time to time.

GFM
 
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If UAH ends up getting placed in Albany, I'll be there in my Charger Blue "Save UAH Hockey" shirt.

And, if things work out right, I'll be in Huntsville next January for the RPI-UAH series.

Let's go Chargers!
 
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JW has UAH been seeking funds from boosters to boost the longevity of the program? I know scheduling as an independent is the tough part but I am referring to raising money to endow scholarships
 
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CHFAN222 said:
JW has UAH been seeking funds from boosters to boost the longevity of the program? I know scheduling as an independent is the tough part but I am referring to raising money to endow scholarships
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I don't think we're worried about money, no. I mean, every school could use more of it. :)

GFM
 
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gfmorris said:
Probably not. 2010-11 is set in stone. 11-12 would probably take a miracle. I figure UAH is in for two, maybe three years as an independent before the logjam breaks.

Got 30 games as an indie next year, and have some games all the way until '14. Keep encouraging your schools to keep playing UAH, especially in January and February, especially in Huntsville from time to time.

GFM
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How does the schedule look for January and February (and March too) when everyone else will be playing mainly league games?
 
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quiddlet said:
Glad someone dug this thread up, think the CCHA will reconsider after UAH kicks one of their teams in the butt first round of the big skate?
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Perhaps Miami in Fort Wayne, but more likely DU in Albany. In any case, congrats to Alabama-Huntsville, and hoping that they are back in a DI conference before too long. Great hockey history in Huntsville.
 
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