Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

[pete99race]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

NCHA responds:
Names Balsamo 'offensive' player of the week:

http://nchahockey.org/sports/mice/2018-19/releases/MWR_DEC_11_1819

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Eric Smevoll and Joshua Hatinger are both chicken $&@# cowards. There’s no reason as to why both of them were standing there with their notepads and scratching their *****es with their pencils as Bachnak tees off on Renda.

I agree, and I suppose that was to my larger point.

Anyone -regardless of the legalities, or of any BS hockey conventions involved- who just stands around and watches such a beat-down needs to intervene, just by dint of being a human being.

I don't give a s*** what the officials' titles are, or what their bailiwicks' entail in a technical sense ... That was just wrong, and an embarrassment to the game. The zebras let the game down, any way you might choose to parse it.

Call me a "snowflake", but why is this BS acceptable on the ice, but not on the street? That makes zero sense. If that's the standard, well let's allow assault in golf, tennis, and curling. Poker, too. Why does hockey get a free pass?

Stupid beyond belief.

 

[Birdwatcher]

I agree, and I suppose that was to my larger point.

Anyone -regardless of the legalities, or of any BS hockey conventions involved- who just stands and watches such a beat down needs to intervene, just by dint of being human.

I don't give a s*** what the officials' titles are, that was just wrong, and an embarrassment to the game.

I don't always agree with you, but this is one time I do. This should have been stopped by the officials no matter what their title is. The NCHA needs to review this incident and hand out sanctions. This kind of crap doesn't belong in D3 hockey. Getting non-conference hone games at Arrington could be an issue in the future.

 

[nefan]

I can't speak for the NCHA, but conferences at all levels have handed out further suspensions after the fact when they got to review video. I know the SUNYAC did it a couple of years ago. And, you read about D1 conferences doing it all the time, especially for hits to the head that weren't called properly during the game.

Suspensions should be handed out to both referees. Linesman were busy breaking up the one behind the net and later joined the other fight when they separated the first one BUT the two referees just stood by and watched taking numbers. It took them about 5 seconds to write down those number and should have immediately went in to break up the bigger one. Salve player had his helmet ripped off right away while the Adrain player had his on the entire time. A definite dangerous situation. Finally these players have seen enough hockey to realize when enough is enough and the Adrian player should’ve just stopped after the salve player went to the ice the first time.. Even in the pros there is the unwritten rule of when to stop throwing punches at a defenseless player. NCHA needs to not only look at these two referees but also supplemental discipline for the Adrian player. Lastly iif the Adrian player just puts the puck in the net on the open net instead of taunting and showboating on the empty netter NONE of this happens. It’s already Tuesday and nothing done so far so I don’t think we will see anything more and that’s a shame.

 

[CCC Fan]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Suspensions should be handed out to both referees. Linesman were busy breaking up the one behind the net and later joined the other fight when they separated the first one BUT the two referees just stood by and watched taking numbers. It took them about 5 seconds to write down those number and should have immediately went in to break up the bigger one. Salve player had his helmet ripped off right away while the Adrain player had his on the entire time. A definite dangerous situation. Finally these players have seen enough hockey to realize when enough is enough and the Adrian player should’ve just stopped after the salve player went to the ice the first time.. Even in the pros there is the unwritten rule of when to stop throwing punches at a defenseless player. NCHA needs to not only look at these two referees but also supplemental discipline for the Adrian player. Lastly iif the Adrian player just puts the puck in the net on the open net instead of taunting and showboating on the empty netter NONE of this happens. It’s already Tuesday and nothing done so far so I don’t think we will see anything more and that’s a shame.

Let's not forget Adrian also has a college president and head coach who should be stepping in with suspensions it's not just the conference that should have stepped in. IMO, if the college president does not step in and suspend both the player and coach then the president is condoning the act and that tells me all I need to know about the school.

 

[BetterInLakePlacid]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

After looking at box score why am I not surprised that Bachnak was involved? This is the same player that the coach directed to jump our captain last year for no reason. "You're going to fight me whether you like it or not." Finally watched the video and when I see that kid out on the ice with seconds to go chasing people around and then he drags someone out of the pile and pounds him while they're up by 3 I think the intentions are clear. It's not hard to figure out why he's on the ice and it goes right back to the coach as there's a track record here. Same player same coach same crap. There's no reason to put that dirtbag out on the ice at the end unless he had a specfic job to do. You arent fooling anyone Adrian. Also someone needs to tell tough guy Bachnak that pulling off the other guys helmet while leaving your own on is a total puss move but not really I surprise I guess.

 

[Arete19]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

This behavior will not change until Mr. Krug exits the program. What other coach would allow an ejected player to stand just off ice and cheer on his teammates in a premeditated fight? Mr. Balsamo should have been in the locker room and his coach should have been telling his teammates to just admire the scoreboard for their last 17 seconds on the ice. Adrian is simultaneously the most talented and most embarrassing team in the NCHA every year. Every time they play my favorite team I’m relieved when the game ends without someone getting seriously injured. Get over yourselves Adrian. Yes you got left out of the NCAA tournament somewhat unfairly your first two years (also the two years your current coach was on the ice for you), but it’s time start acting like a top flight d3 program and not a butt-hurt kindergartner who had his favorite toy taken away from him.

 

[The Zlax45]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

I know the Salve goalie in general is a hot head from seeing him the last three seasons but never seen Salve start up brawls as they are a "BIG" team with 14 guys 6'1 or bigger.

 

[jerrynu26]

It's obvious the school couldn't care less what anyone thinks of its image. Why else would they have appealed the NCAA sanctions handed down 2 years ago? It is also obvious that they have no intention of changing the culture.
What is truly sad is they absolutely know the difference, in the Primelink they did not engage in this kind of behavior.

 

[Adam_Krug#1]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Has anyone contacted the school and stated your displeasure with things? If not, keep the speculation out of it.
Theres things other programs do that are unsavory sometimes, but they dont get called out about it. A couple of posters on here are giving a lot of good kids a bad name and its undeserving.

 

[Tom Coughlin]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

NCHA responds:
Names Balsamo 'offensive' player of the week:

http://nchahockey.org/sports/mice/2018-19/releases/MWR_DEC_11_1819

Can't make this stuff up.

 

[CCC Fan]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Has anyone contacted the school and stated your displeasure with things? If not, keep the speculation out of it.
Theres things other programs do that are unsavory sometimes, but they dont get called out about it. A couple of posters on here are giving a lot of good kids a bad name and its undeserving.

Nice try to shift the focus to "...things other programs do that are unsavory sometimes..." It's a bad program with even worse leadership, or lack thereof at Adrian and it starts at the top.

 

[d3hockey57]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Has anyone contacted the school and stated your displeasure with things? If not, keep the speculation out of it.
Theres things other programs do that are unsavory sometimes, but they dont get called out about it. A couple of posters on here are giving a lot of good kids a bad name and its undeserving.

These players deserve to be called out by name for their actions. If Balsamo can be named NCHA Offensive Player of the Week, then he can be called out for being a pitiful immature clown for showboating an empty net goal.

 

[spwood]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

The NCHA doesn't have any decent players in the league (sarcasm emphasised) that they have to give player of the week to someone ejected for unsportsmanlike behavior? Maybe there's a reason Adrian feels they can act this way. There are no consequences. I cannot believe there are no suspensions from this. Since Adrian doesn't play for a couple of weeks, maybe the league is just taking its time before reacting?

Edit: I just fired off a quick email to NCHA Commissioner Don Olson (donolson@nchahockey.org) asking that action be taken against the Adrian program and specific players involved this past weekend.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

The NCHA doesn't have any decent players in the league (sarcasm emphasised) that they have to give player of the week to someone ejected for unsportsmanlike behavior? Maybe there's a reason Adrian feels they can act this way. There are no consequences. I cannot believe there are no suspensions from this. Since Adrian doesn't play for a couple of weeks, maybe the league is just taking its time before reacting?

Well, technically, they were "disqualifications" (as opposed to game misconducts) according to the boxscore, which are automatic suspensions under NCAA rules.

 

[sticksnstones]

This behavior will not change until Mr. Krug exits the program. What other coach would allow an ejected player to stand just off ice and cheer on his teammates in a premeditated fight? Mr. Balsamo should have been in the locker room and his coach should have been telling his teammates to just admire the scoreboard for their last 17 seconds on the ice. Adrian is simultaneously the most talented and most embarrassing team in the NCHA every year. Every time they play my favorite team I’m relieved when the game ends without someone getting seriously injured. Get over yourselves Adrian. Yes you got left out of the NCAA tournament somewhat unfairly your first two years (also the two years your current coach was on the ice for you), but it’s time start acting like a top flight d3 program and not a butt-hurt kindergartner who had his favorite toy taken away from him.

I just watched the video and that was absolutely disgusting on Adrian's part. There is no way anyone, even an Adrian supporter can justify that. This isn't a goon league. The school and the announcer as well should be ashamed and I hope the school has enough integrity to punish the players involved further. Shame on this institution.

 

[elbojpb]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Has anyone contacted the school and stated your displeasure with things? If not, keep the speculation out of it.
Theres things other programs do that are unsavory sometimes, but they dont get called out about it. A couple of posters on here are giving a lot of good kids a bad name and its undeserving.

I'm assuming you were there. What was your assessment of the fight and the events leading thereto?

 

[Birdwatcher]

Well, technically, they were "disqualifications" (as opposed to game misconducts) according to the boxscore, which are automatic suspensions under NCAA rules.

Whatever it is, it should be doubled and the school should impose further suspensions to the player and the coach.

 

[nefan]

Whatever it is, it should be doubled and the school should impose further suspensions to the player and the coach.

So looking at the box score it looks like Salve will lose 3 players for their next game and Adrian will lose two players. And Balsamo gets nothing, except NCHC Player of the Week. WOW. DQ’s all carry another game, whether it is a fight and DQ or just a DQ. I know a lot of the leagues in the east and especially in D1 have the commissioner of the league hand out supplemental discipline in all these cases. I would imagine the NCHC has the same and hopefully they are just waiting to turn over every stone before handing out more discipline. If they do not then the school should step in and make a statement that these actions will not be tolerated.

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Salve Regina @ Adrian 12-8-18

Well, technically, they were "disqualifications" (as opposed to game misconducts) according to the boxscore, which are automatic suspensions under NCAA rules.

A "fighting" DQ includes the game in question and the next one as well, IIRC... Ergo, Balsamo will miss 60:04 of actual ice-time. No doubt that fact figured-into his calculus when he went ape- s*** in the closing seconds.

This particular transgression was so beyond the pale that some body or the other needs to sit him for an extended number of games, if you ask me. If he gets off with simply missing a single game, that sends the wrong message entirely. I wouldn't object to seeing him suspended for the season, as a matter of fact.

That beat-down was a criminal act. Why it would be tolerated in our game is beyond me. Truly.