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Rule's Committee Recommends 4 on 4 OT, RPI to adjust for OT losses

JohnsonsJerseys said:
Tinker, tinker tinker... the NHL can't stop changing the rules and college hockey doesn't have the self-control not to copy the NHL Another needless change for the sake of change. I can't wait until the two-point goal is introduced...

Rather than give-aways for fans upon entering games we'll soon have to hand out attendance trophies to all fans as they leave the game so everyone can leave feeling like a winner since apparently no one can live with a tie any more...
:rolleyes:
Ryan J
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Two point goal is that like scoring before crossing the blue line? Will that count on empty net goals? Or maybe it should be a short handed goal?

Will never understand the need for special entertainment between period on the ice. Need to do chuck a puck for funds ok. tricycle races....not so much
 
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giwan said:
Two point goal is that like scoring before crossing the blue line? Will that count on empty net goals? Or maybe it should be a short handed goal?

Will never understand the need for special entertainment between period on the ice. Need to do chuck a puck for funds ok. tricycle races....not so much
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Hey now, Indoor Soccer has a three-point line. I'm sure the NHL will figure out some way... :rolleyes:
 
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giwan said:
Two point goal is that like scoring before crossing the blue line? Will that count on empty net goals? Or maybe it should be a short handed goal?
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Actually the point value will be awarded based on the play-by-play call. Any goal for which the announcer states "The netminder really needs to make that save..." or "Oh boy, the goalie is going to want that one back..." will be a one-point goal. All others will count as two. Different scoring for goals from beyond the blue line will be unnecessary as they will likely fall under the criteria of the one-point goal as outlined above...
FlagDUDE08 said:
Hey now, Indoor Soccer has a three-point line. I'm sure the NHL will figure out some way... :rolleyes:
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That was exactly what I was thinking about, well that and the fact that the NHL is run by an NBA cast-off.
Ryan J
 
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JohnsonsJerseys said:
Actually the point value will be awarded based on the play-by-play call. Any goal for which the announcer states "The netminder really needs to make that save..." or "Oh boy, the goalie is going to want that one back..." will be a one-point goal. All others will count as two. Different scoring for goals from beyond the blue line will be unnecessary as they will likely fall under the criteria of the one-point goal as outlined above...

Ryan J
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Will they go by the goal scorer's team's PBP call or the goalie's team's PBP call? ;)
 
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As a hockey fan I love the NHL 3 on 3 and the old 4 on 4 OT as it is fun up and down action. However I see this as
just another advantage that will go to the Top tier teams with Bluechip forwards. You get a smaller school who busts
it but blocking shot and the goalie has a great game and then lose in the 3 on 3 because the other team has the Eichel type
players and you dont.

For the price we pay now for games just play 20min sud death 5 on 5 and then call it a tie. Why is everyone in such a rush to get home.
 
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UML Puck Hawk said:
except for the last two minutes of the game and any overtime periods. Officials will be able to review offsides during the last two minutes of the game and all overtime periods.
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It takes a special kind of stupid for something like this to make sense to someone.
 
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Cat lover said:
As a hockey fan I love the NHL 3 on 3 and the old 4 on 4 OT as it is fun up and down action. However I see this as
just another advantage that will go to the Top tier teams with Bluechip forwards. You get a smaller school who busts
it but blocking shot and the goalie has a great game and then lose in the 3 on 3 because the other team has the Eichel type
players and you dont.

For the price we pay now for games just play 20min sud death 5 on 5 and then call it a tie. Why is everyone in such a rush to get home.
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Not really a rush to get home so much as the polarizing attitude of Americans that there must be a winner and there must be a loser. Hence why tie games have been equivocated with "sister kissing".
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
Not really a rush to get home so much as the polarizing attitude of Americans that there must be a winner and there must be a loser. Hence why tie games have been equivocated with "sister kissing".
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I don't even think it's that... Because that's died down somewhat... I think it's just trying too hard to be liked
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Will they go by the goal scorer's team's PBP call or the goalie's team's PBP call? ;)
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I would expect in most cases their calls would be in agreement as most announcers show no "homer-ism" in their PBP. However, in the unlikely event that a tie-breaker should required, the goal will be reviewed by the league offices and a vote of the goal point value committee will determine the point value of the goal. It may seem unnecessary to go to these lengths but in the end it is about getting the call right. And who's going to argue with Chuck Norris' call?
Ryan J
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4 on 4 I really like, let the teams play for a win with plenty more open ice. With 5 on 5 overtime many teams play for the tie, 4 on 4 will force the game open enough.

3 on 3 is just too open, too far from the team game for me.

Shoot-out while exciting for some fans doesn't sit well with this traditionalist. Hockey is a team game should be played as such, leave the shootout for skills events. Give me a tie over a shootout anytime.
 
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Blitz said:
4 on 4 I really like, let the teams play for a win with plenty more open ice. With 5 on 5 overtime many teams play for the tie, 4 on 4 will force the game open enough.

3 on 3 is just too open, too far from the team game for me.

Shoot-out while exciting for some fans doesn't sit well with this traditionalist. Hockey is a team game should be played as such, leave the shootout for skills events. Give me a tie over a shootout anytime.
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If 4x4 is so great why not play it all the time?
 
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Perhaps i did not clarify. With overtime 5 on 5 play many teams will just sit back looking for a tie, whereas you go to 4 on 4 for overtime and more teams will go for the win. During a long game 5 on 5 teams try to win as there is plenty of time to decide the contest, but overtime is limited play so go for it.
 
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I'm confused. Is there somebody named Rule who heads a committee to make college hockey rules?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I am completely in favor of 4x4 OT, and I think this is an overdue move. It will open up the ice quite a bit, and more games that go to OT should end with a winner. Ties are OK, but playing for/trapping & obstructing your way to a tie is not.
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"Amen," says a fan of a team that sometimes grapples its way to a one-point result.

GFM
 
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giwan said:
Two point goal is that like scoring before crossing the blue line? Will that count on empty net goals? Or maybe it should be a short handed goal?
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Brandon Parker's 140-foot goal on Jamie Phillips has to count for 4 goals, right? It's like a Steph Curry bomb from half-court! ;)

I don't mind giving a team credit for making it to OT, regardless of whether they win, tie, or lose. You'd need something like a 3-2-1-0 or 4-3-2-1-0 system, though, for it to be truly fair. I've modeled both for the WCHA over the past three seasons, and while the change in the standing results hasn't been significant, it's also important to remember that teams are playing in a 2-1-0 world, so the incentives aren't as strong. If you make it to OT and you can still pick up three of four league points by going for the win while being guaranteed a point just for making it, doesn't it seem likely that game theory would push you to get the extra point or two?

GFM
 
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Blitz said:
Perhaps i did not clarify. With overtime 5 on 5 play many teams will just sit back looking for a tie, whereas you go to 4 on 4 for overtime and more teams will go for the win. During a long game 5 on 5 teams try to win as there is plenty of time to decide the contest, but overtime is limited play so go for it.
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What for the fresh hell? How does changing the number of players on the ice end up giving you a game theory incentive to score? 4v4 is about giving players ice and allowing more skilled skates the chance to score a goal. I don't think that's changing incentives, though —*the risk/reward is still the same.

GFM
 
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