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Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
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The WCHA Championship game was televised to in incredibly strong audience in its market because a media outlet found it to be a worthwhile investment.
TigerFan86-87
R!!!!...I!!!!!...T!!!!!!
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
And re-instate the ban on forward passes.
And re-instate the ban on forward passes.
TigerFan86-87
R!!!!...I!!!!!...T!!!!!!
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Soccer never stops. It's not a matter of getting away with anything. That's just how the game is played. TV has figured out to just run ads alongside the game like they do with NASCAR. I'm not sure what radio broadcasts of soccer games do for commercials. I can't imagine a scenario where I could ever be found listening to soccer on the radio... unless I was suffering from insomnia.
Soccer never stops. It's not a matter of getting away with anything. That's just how the game is played. TV has figured out to just run ads alongside the game like they do with NASCAR. I'm not sure what radio broadcasts of soccer games do for commercials. I can't imagine a scenario where I could ever be found listening to soccer on the radio... unless I was suffering from insomnia.
TigerFan86-87
R!!!!...I!!!!!...T!!!!!!
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
No, I haven't. It's been a few years. Couldn't even make it out when the Tigers visited in 2016... darn kids
No, I haven't. It's been a few years. Couldn't even make it out when the Tigers visited in 2016... darn kids
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Pre-game, in between periods, postgame. Squeeze in one per period at when a penalty occurs. All these media timeouts shorten the bench too much.
Pre-game, in between periods, postgame. Squeeze in one per period at when a penalty occurs. All these media timeouts shorten the bench too much.
Those pregame, between periods and postgame spots are full as well. What you’re asking is for me to give up the revenue that, over the course of the season, pays for my plane ticket, hotels and meals for that trip to Fairbanks.
Walking billboards.
Sean Pickett
2009 NCAA Champions
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
I compiled the results for the 1988-89 season as that was the last one that had 10 minute overtimes, except for CCHA conference games which were 5 minute overtimes. I also realized that I had the 2008-09 season and that I could count all overtimes for the 1975-76, 1984-85 and 1988-89 (except for CCHA games) seasons, since all overtimes were 10 minutes. Therefore, all multiple overtime games were counted as ties.
Based on the 1988-89 season, the change from a 10 to 5 minute overtime resulted in shift from wins to ties of 19.5%. Since the 1988-89 season the shift to ties has been almost 0% (2014-15) to 10% (2012-13 % 2016-17), with an average of 6%. The shift to ties from 1975-76 to 1988-89 was also 10%. So, from this data it appears that the increase in ties is split almost equally between the change from 10 to 5 minute overtimes and the improvement of goalies and their equipment.
Sean
I compiled the results for the 1988-89 season as that was the last one that had 10 minute overtimes, except for CCHA conference games which were 5 minute overtimes. I also realized that I had the 2008-09 season and that I could count all overtimes for the 1975-76, 1984-85 and 1988-89 (except for CCHA games) seasons, since all overtimes were 10 minutes. Therefore, all multiple overtime games were counted as ties.
Code:
Season RS games OT games won tied %OT games % won % tied
1975-76 582 65 46 19 11.17% 70.77% 29.23% includes 2 multiple OT games counted as ties
1984-85 876 115 79 36 13.13% 68.70% 31.30% includes 4 multiple OT games counted as ties
1988-89 714 92 56 36 12.89% 60.87% 39.13% includes 5 multiple OT games counted as ties
w/o CCHA
1988-89 144 29 12 17 20.14% 41.38% 58.62%
CCHA only
1998-99 922 144 55 89 15.62% 38.19% 61.81%
2008-09 990 205 76 129 20.71% 37.07% 62.93%
2012-13 1002 196 62 134 19.56% 31.63% 68.37%
2013-14 1003 168 55 113 16.75% 32.74% 67.26%
2014-15 1002 190 78 112 18.96% 41.05% 58.95%
2015-16 1021 219 78 141 21.45% 35.62% 64.38%
2016-17 1018 186 58 128 18.27% 31.18% 68.82%
2017-18 1016 189 72 117 18.60% 38.10% 61.90%
2012-18 6062 1148 403 745 18.94% 35.10% 64.90%Sean
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Thanks, makes sense but more hockey is always a good thing right?
Thanks, makes sense but more hockey is always a good thing right?
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
My understanding is that if a media timeout doesn't happen by 18:00 Hockey Time, it gets dropped. Source: it happened at a game I was working last year.
TBF I can't confirm if this is set by the NCAA or by conferences or what.
My understanding is that if a media timeout doesn't happen by 18:00 Hockey Time, it gets dropped. Source: it happened at a game I was working last year.
TBF I can't confirm if this is set by the NCAA or by conferences or what.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
There's no protocol in the official rule book. Typically, it is set by the conferences and/or tournament hosts. The ECAC mandates first non-no-change (and should also be non-goal, RPI) stoppage at even strength after 10:00 in period. AHC mandates three at 5:00 intervals. Other leagues I imagine have similar.
There's no protocol in the official rule book. Typically, it is set by the conferences and/or tournament hosts. The ECAC mandates first non-no-change (and should also be non-goal, RPI) stoppage at even strength after 10:00 in period. AHC mandates three at 5:00 intervals. Other leagues I imagine have similar.
manurespreader
Still upright
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Just my opinion but things I would like to see and why.
4 on 4 ot. it would make defensive teams come out of their shell.
Less penalties on a gentle push being checking from behind. Too often some guy dives and gets a call he doesn't deserve. (Especially Duluth.)
I'm all for protecting players but embellishment could be a stand alone call couldn't it?
Things I would be totally against.
the b1g age rule. if you want smaller programs to drop hockey, implement it and see what happens.
the "I can transfer any time I want to" proposal. see above.
Just my opinion but things I would like to see and why.
4 on 4 ot. it would make defensive teams come out of their shell.
Less penalties on a gentle push being checking from behind. Too often some guy dives and gets a call he doesn't deserve. (Especially Duluth.)
I'm all for protecting players but embellishment could be a stand alone call couldn't it?
Things I would be totally against.
the b1g age rule. if you want smaller programs to drop hockey, implement it and see what happens.
the "I can transfer any time I want to" proposal. see above.
If you go to 4x4, then a win in regulation has to be worth more than a win using less than 5x5.
The WCHA overtime is a good starting point for debate.
MarkEagleUSA
C'mon Q!
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Tied at end of regulation: 1 pt to each team. OT winner gets additional point.
I don't like the loser point. Points have to add up. A game is worth 2 points that ends in 60 minutes has less value if it ends before 65 minutes.
I prefer 3-2-1.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
...contact!
Sorry, had to.
Maybe it's just me, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with a tie. Heck, I'd be OK with having a tie after 60 minutes. This whole skills contest and changing the game for overtime is plain garbage. Either have a tie, or do OTs playoff style.
...contact!
Sorry, had to.
Maybe it's just me, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with a tie. Heck, I'd be OK with having a tie after 60 minutes. This whole skills contest and changing the game for overtime is plain garbage. Either have a tie, or do OTs playoff style.
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
That's exactly what the NHL does and I think there's a better way. Call me bias but I actually like what the B1G does in hockey. 3 points to a winner in regulation, 3 points to a winner in OT, OT ends in a tie then each team gets a point and the winner of the shootout gets the 3rd and final point. OK, I'm not totally thrilled with SO's but the casual fan wants closure so we have to. The SO's of course are not counted in NCAA standings, they only matter for league standings.
That's exactly what the NHL does and I think there's a better way. Call me bias but I actually like what the B1G does in hockey. 3 points to a winner in regulation, 3 points to a winner in OT, OT ends in a tie then each team gets a point and the winner of the shootout gets the 3rd and final point. OK, I'm not totally thrilled with SO's but the casual fan wants closure so we have to. The SO's of course are not counted in NCAA standings, they only matter for league standings.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
There is a stand alone rule. Diving. The rule book specifically refers to it as a "stand alone" penalty. Embellishment is called when a player is fouled, the penalty is called, but the referee decides the player tries to "sell" the penalty with too much acting. Diving is called when no foul is committed but a player acts like someone committed a penalty. In my opinion diving is not much of an issue in the college game. (I don't watch enough NHL hockey anymore to know if it is there) I think embellishing is an issue, and I'd like to see it penalized with both a 2-minute minor for embellishment AND an addition 10 minute misconduct penalty.
There is a stand alone rule. Diving. The rule book specifically refers to it as a "stand alone" penalty. Embellishment is called when a player is fouled, the penalty is called, but the referee decides the player tries to "sell" the penalty with too much acting. Diving is called when no foul is committed but a player acts like someone committed a penalty. In my opinion diving is not much of an issue in the college game. (I don't watch enough NHL hockey anymore to know if it is there) I think embellishing is an issue, and I'd like to see it penalized with both a 2-minute minor for embellishment AND an addition 10 minute misconduct penalty.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?
Could have fooled me; we saw a couple "Unsportsmanlike Conduct - Diving" calls this past year. And given the derogatory nicknames of some of the teams that are thrown around college hockey, it's a good thing it exists. Not sure it needs to be that harsh, so much as let's get over the hurdle of it actually being called.
Could have fooled me; we saw a couple "Unsportsmanlike Conduct - Diving" calls this past year. And given the derogatory nicknames of some of the teams that are thrown around college hockey, it's a good thing it exists. Not sure it needs to be that harsh, so much as let's get over the hurdle of it actually being called.