RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

[joecct]

It has historically been very intimidating for RPI.

Except in March.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

I am concerned about Tironese.

I guess we are going to have to wait for the lineups to be posted to find out if Tironese plays or not.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

I guess we are going to have to wait for the lineups to be posted to find out if Tironese plays or not.

Sadly yes. None of the supposed beat reporters to date have had enough gumption to ask Appert either a) what he thought of the hit and/or b) the status of Tironese's health. Seth had a lengthy chat on the ice with St.Lawrence after the Sat night game....seems like a most basic question that should have been asked...when the league's POM gets drilled into the boards from behind...with no call. Silly me.

 

[Jasma]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Sadly yes. None of the supposed beat reporters to date have had enough gumption to ask Appert either a) what he thought of the hit and/or b) the status of Tironese's health. Seth had a lengthy chat on the ice with St.Lawrence after the Sat night game....seems like a most basic question that should have been asked...when the league's POM gets drilled into the boards from behind...with no call. Silly me.

Sadly, the beat system in the newspaper industry has just about disappeared. There are just not enough full-time writers to justify it anymore.
IMO the hit was perhaps borderline, but legal. I had a good view of it and the hit came a few strides away from the boards. Tironese appeared to lose an edge at or just before the hit and went awkwardly into the boards.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Sadly yes. None of the supposed beat reporters to date have had enough gumption to ask Appert either a) what he thought of the hit and/or b) the status of Tironese's health. Seth had a lengthy chat on the ice with St.Lawrence after the Sat night game....seems like a most basic question that should have been asked...when the league's POM gets drilled into the boards from behind...with no call. Silly me.

I'm not sure it's gumption so much as it is the answer they know they're going to get, and/or any resulting backlash. League rules prohibit giving comments on specific calls/non-calls (not sure if they made an amendment to extend it to showing video of the play after the 2010 débâcle), and after writers have been chastised about these sorts of questions by readers, sometimes so far as to blaming them for the coach being suspended, they're not asking the question because they know what the answer's going to be. With the health of Tironese, once again, in the media-speak of today, you know what the answer is going to be. They'll evaluate it, or if they've already done that, give a broad area of the body. So it almost seems like asking the question is a waste of time, because you're not going to learn much of anything new.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

I'm not sure it's gumption so much as it is the answer they know they're going to get, and/or any resulting backlash. League rules prohibit giving comments on specific calls/non-calls (not sure if they made an amendment to extend it to showing video of the play after the 2010 débâcle), and after writers have been chastised about these sorts of questions by readers, sometimes so far as to blaming them for the coach being suspended, they're not asking the question because they know what the answer's going to be. With the health of Tironese, once again, in the media-speak of today, you know what the answer is going to be. They'll evaluate it, or if they've already done that, give a broad area of the body. So it almost seems like asking the question is a waste of time, because you're not going to learn much of anything new.

. Given that logic, reporters can just stay home and regurgitate press releases as stories (many do). Their job is to ask questions and invoke responses , gain info the reader wouldn't otherwise know. Journalism 101. You ask the question even if you know or think you know what the answer will be be. As far as coaches go, they can respond without incrimination...Bennett did it a few weeks ago in a presser when he said (paraphrasing) --" Regarding the officiating , I'm not gonna go there." That is an artful way to answer the question without answering the question.

In any event, I guess we're all good with the hit. I was across the ice from it and thought it was a penalty. God knows if a red hat had made that hit , the arm would've gone up. Anyone's guess as to when we next see the POM on the ice.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

I guess we are going to have to wait for the lineups to be posted to find out if Tironese plays or not.

I doubt that he will play this weekend. The question to me is more of a long term nature.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

I doubt that he will play this weekend. The question to me is more of a long term nature.

I tend to agree. Ditto for Milos, after seeing him post game on Saturday night - I don't expect to see him dressed. Hope I'm wrong

 

[turk181]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

This could be a field day for the zebras, especially if “Chippy” McDonald gets the ASSignement...... Penalty Minutes
Rk Team PEN/MIN AVG
1 Army 44-for-137 27.40
2 Boston College 38-for-103 17.17
3 Rensselaer 46-for-119 17.00
4 Arizona State 60-for-139 15.44
5 Clarkson 34-for-90 15.00
6 Lake Superior 48-for-118 14.75
7 Union 41-for-109 13.62
8 Massachusetts 28-for-81 13.50
Northern Michigan 47-for-108 13.50
10 St. Lawrence 46 for 103 12.88


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/division-i-men/2015-2016/#ixzz3qMTKPCZI

THIS WEEKEND’S OFFICIALS: The Referees for Friday night’s game at Clarkson will be Kevin Graber and Tom Steinel, while the linesmen will be Peter Olson and Jason Shattie ... Saturday night will feature Joe Carusone and Stei- nel as referees and Shattie and Olson as linesmen.... http://www.rpiathletics.com/documents/2015/11/5//GameNotes_CLK_SLU.pdf?id=2311

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Looks like the league actually took Appert's suggestion for once, and looked at the targeted hit on Kasdorf. http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/clarkson/20150711_DiNallo_Suspension

 

[bothman]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Is there video of the hit?

 

[turk181]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Looks like the league actually took Appert's suggestion for once, and looked at the targeted hit on Kasdorf. http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/clarkson/20150711_DiNallo_Suspension

So the League suspends the player.....what about the on ice officials? To have a suspension when there was no call on the ice just validates what most think of the ECAC officials.

 

[DavidSec17]

So the League suspends the player.....what about the on ice officials? To have a suspension when there was no call on the ice just validates what most think of the ECAC officials.

Exactly. Especially with 2 of them out there, and it was a play that one would think both of them were looking at.

 

[AspyDad]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

Exactly. Especially with 2 of them out there, and it was a play that one would think both of them were looking at as the play was over.

1 minute to play in the period... and Paul Stewart still sucks.

 

[AspyDad]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (11/6, 11/7)

. Given that logic, reporters can just stay home and regurgitate press releases as stories (many do). Their job is to ask questions and invoke responses , gain info the reader wouldn't otherwise know. Journalism 101. You ask the question even if you know or think you know what the answer will be be. As far as coaches go, they can respond without incrimination...Bennett did it a few weeks ago in a presser when he said (paraphrasing) --" Regarding the officiating , I'm not gonna go there." That is an artful way to answer the question without answering the question.

In any event, I guess we're all good with the hit. I was across the ice from it and thought it was a penalty. God knows if a red hat had made that hit , the arm would've gone up. Anyone's guess as to when we next see the POM on the ice.

Glad to see you back even if its just for a bit. Exactly right, there is a pattern. Bias has been established by comments made by the Director of Officials regarding the Coach of this program, you're right to make the assumption that if it was an RPI Player the arm would have went up.