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RPI Off-Season Thread 2011: There Will be a Title Here Next Season

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engineerhockeyfan said:
While I was away this weekend and not able to post. I was able to watch the games.
I just want to say that I am glad that we lost to a superior team, and not to the referees.
What I learned this year is that we (ECAC) do not have the worst referees in college hockey. They are all equally as bad.
I am glad that I am not a Yale fan or worse, Nebraska Omaha. :eek:
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The Yale call on O'Neill was horrible. The goal call against NO was just not done with enough evidence to make it an obvious way to overturn a call on the ice. ECAC refs are terrible-but so are these others. We just drew the best and hottest team i the nation-I am sure we would have fared better against just about anyone else. North Dakota just looked awesome (kind of like another team on a roll in 1985)
 
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troyboy said:
My best guess is that York is gone !!!
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Just curious, any possibility of Bergin or maybe Cullen leaving early? Bergin is a Dallas draft choice and Cullen was at Capitals prospect camp last summer.
 
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Any word on if York is planning on attending any weddings this summer? We all know what happened last time a RPI player went to a wedding during the summer.
 
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redhead18 said:
Just curious, any possibility of Bergin or maybe Cullen leaving early? Bergin is a Dallas draft choice and Cullen was at Capitals prospect camp last summer.
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There are always possibilities, but I doubt it in both cases. A year from now, when Bergin is ready to enter the year that he got by redshirting, it seems more likely.
 
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Havasu M said:
Just some opinions for Coach Appert who I really like esp as a recruiter. Roll four lines and three sets of d at least thru half the game. The d did look tired esp seniors and Bailen and they were the ones getting beat. Nothing to lose by playing the freshmen and the experience would have benefitted them. Chase looked tired in some games maybe this would have helped I know the flu didn't. Play Burgdoerfer big good skater good shot puck handler. this is the type size of winger looking to recruit. Had more points than Rogic Halpern Tinordi Smith in limited play. BTW does York have some kind of offer on the table to go pro? I thought Columbus liked his development and wanted it to continue. JMO
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SA doesn't get it out of the ground....watching UMD/Denver last night it seemed Zucker,Salazar,Ostrow and the Shore brothers played about the whole game.
 
Ralph Baer said:
An interesting article by Ed Weaver on York's decison http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/...4d9003b48c625733182550.txt?viewmode=fullstory.
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Good job by Eddy. Honestly, I've come to terms with the likelihood of York jumping. Several things distinguish this from the Pirri/D'Amigo situation: (1) he is talking to Appert about it and making a decision early, when we can manage the situation; (2) there is a real economic incentive to go - Columbus needs to throw money at him to lure him out early, whereas next year they are his only option; (3) it seems there is some real analysis by both York and the organization about where he will get the most and best development opportunities.

NONE of these things were true with JDA and BP last year. If Allen goes, I thank him for three years of hard work and wish him the best. Very soon thereafter, I will start building excitement over the prospect of guys like Keeney, Altschuller, and who-know-who-else we might be able to land with the prospect of immediate playing time.
 
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knsmith said:
Good job by Eddy. Honestly, I've come to terms with the likelihood of York jumping. Several things distinguish this from the Pirri/D'Amigo situation: (1) he is talking to Appert about it and making a decision early, when we can manage the situation; (2) there is a real economic incentive to go - Columbus needs to throw money at him to lure him out early, whereas next year they are his only option; (3) it seems there is some real analysis by both York and the organization about where he will get the most and best development opportunities.

NONE of these things were true with JDA and BP last year. If Allen goes, I thank him for three years of hard work and wish him the best. Very soon thereafter, I will start building excitement over the prospect of guys like Keeney, Altschuller, and who-know-who-else we might be able to land with the prospect of immediate playing time.
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I remember reading that JD'A did keep SA informed although BP didn't. Indeed both decisions were indeed quite late.
 
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troyboy said:
SA doesn't get it out of the ground....watching UMD/Denver last night it seemed Zucker,Salazar,Ostrow and the Shore brothers played about the whole game.
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This is not a slight on Noth Dakota in any way just a little insight on how you get so many Draft picks on 1 team...the ques.has been asked...so i just quickley went and looked at there roster and what certain the players majors were...this should clear a few things up:

Matt Fratten
Ben Blood
Aaron Dell
Evan Trupp
All Major in Recreational & Tourism Studies

Kristo
Brad Malone
Mario Lamoureux
Brett Hextall
All major in Entrepreneurship

Forbert's major is undecided (I'm guessing he doesn't decide engineering)
Gregoire majors in investment (No idea what that could be)
Genoway majors in management (doesn't say what kind/but my guess is Hockey Rink mgm't)

Like I said I'm not passing judgement just passing on some insight as to why they have so many good players IMO.
 
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Have others noticed that recently a lot of files seem to be opened when reading Troy Record articles?
 
troyboy said:
This is not a slight on Noth Dakota in any way just a little insight on how you get so many Draft picks on 1 team...the ques.has been asked...so i just quickley went and looked at there roster and what certain the players majors were...this should clear a few things up:

Matt Fratten
Ben Blood
Aaron Dell
Evan Trupp
All Major in Recreational & Tourism Studies

Kristo
Brad Malone
Mario Lamoureux
Brett Hextall
All major in Entrepreneurship

Forbert's major is undecided (I'm guessing he doesn't decide engineering)
Gregoire majors in investment (No idea what that could be)
Genoway majors in management (doesn't say what kind/but my guess is Hockey Rink mgm't)

Like I said I'm not passing judgement just passing on some insight as to why they have so many good players IMO.
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What's the breakdown for how Yale has so many good players?

In my opinion, we shouldn't use our academic superiority as a crutch, but rather as a weapon - I.e. as a means to win recruiting battles with athletically-superior schools for guys who wouldn't otherwise consider us.
 
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troyboy said:
This is not a slight on Noth Dakota in any way just a little insight on how you get so many Draft picks on 1 team...the ques.has been asked...so i just quickley went and looked at there roster and what certain the players majors were...this should clear a few things up:

Matt Fratten
Ben Blood
Aaron Dell
Evan Trupp
All Major in Recreational & Tourism Studies

Kristo
Brad Malone
Mario Lamoureux
Brett Hextall
All major in Entrepreneurship

Forbert's major is undecided (I'm guessing he doesn't decide engineering)
Gregoire majors in investment (No idea what that could be)
Genoway majors in management (doesn't say what kind/but my guess is Hockey Rink mgm't)

Like I said I'm not passing judgement just passing on some insight as to why they have so many good players IMO.
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I understand why basketball and football players major in things like Recreational and Tourism Studies, but with hockey having the option of reaching the pros via Major Junior, it surprises me when hockey players do that.
 
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knsmith said:
In my opinion, we shouldn't use our academic superiority as a crutch, but rather as a weapon - I.e. as a means to win recruiting battles with athletically-superior schools for guys who wouldn't otherwise consider us.
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I suspect that we do that, and SA apparently does it quite well. Also, our standards are clearly not to the level of most of the Ivies, e.g. Tyler Helfrich wasn't admitted to Brown. (I think that it was Brown.) We do suffer, however, due to not having a broader base of majors, not that I would change that.
 
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troyboy said:
This is not a slight on Noth Dakota in any way just a little insight on how you get so many Draft picks on 1 team...the ques.has been asked...so i just quickley went and looked at there roster and what certain the players majors were...this should clear a few things up:

Matt Fratten
Ben Blood
Aaron Dell
Evan Trupp
All Major in Recreational & Tourism Studies

Kristo
Brad Malone
Mario Lamoureux
Brett Hextall
All major in Entrepreneurship

Forbert's major is undecided (I'm guessing he doesn't decide engineering)
Gregoire majors in investment (No idea what that could be)
Genoway majors in management (doesn't say what kind/but my guess is Hockey Rink mgm't)

Like I said I'm not passing judgement just passing on some insight as to why they have so many good players IMO.
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Just for clarification from a UND alum ... Entrepreneurship, management and investments are all business majors at UND. They are all sub-fields in the College of Business and Public Administration. I would call Recreation and Tourism Studies a mix of a Communication, Marketing, and Business Management major. I know Frattin and Malone were previously business majors as I had economics with them a few years back. I think Recreation and Tourism is slightly less rigorous academically (less math), so I think that's why they might have switched. I have not seen too many hockey players on our team major in engineering if any, but props to those that do. That's gotta be tough. Our third goalie is an accounting major, and having been forced to take accounting courses, I find that to be impressive. It is definitely harder to recruit the top end players to schools such as RPI because of their impressive academic standards. I don't think I would have been accepted into RPI and I was an honor student in high school. That said, I'm pleased with the education I received in North Dakota, so I have no complaints.
 
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sfo19 said:
Just for clarification from a UND alum ... Entrepreneurship, management and investments are all business majors at UND. They are all sub-fields in the College of Business and Public Administration. I would call Recreation and Tourism Studies a mix of a Communication, Marketing, and Business Management major. I know Frattin and Malone were previously business majors as I had economics with them a few years back. I think Recreation and Tourism is slightly less rigorous academically (less math), so I think that's why they might have switched. I have not seen too many hockey players on our team major in engineering if any, but props to those that do. That's gotta be tough. Our third goalie is an accounting major, and having been forced to take accounting courses, I find that to be impressive. It is definitely harder to recruit the top end players to schools such as RPI because of their impressive academic standards. I don't think I would have been accepted into RPI and I was an honor student in high school. That said, I'm pleased with the education I received in North Dakota, so I have no complaints.
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I'm sure you could have made it in. Did you apply to Michigan Tech, or any of the other technical institutes?

That having been said, not everyone does engineering here. We're quite happy to see those majors, but I would say that a majority of our players have decided to enroll in the Lally School of Management. Obviously there are a few engineers, one pre-med, and some things here and there. No Games and Simulation Arts and Sciences yet (though that might be interesting to see); I think we had one Electronic Media Arts and Communications major a few years back.
 
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fishcore12 said:
Save that for whenever the freakout is next year and post it in the scores thread. Freakout is what it is, a promotional attempt by the 'Tute to fill the Field House. It is just another game on the ECAC schedule.
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ibanezist00, excuse fishcore ... everyone once in awhile he has to channel his inner "hey kids get off my lawn" self. Welcome to the thread.
 
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sfo19 said:
Just for clarification from a UND alum ... Entrepreneurship, management and investments are all business majors at UND. They are all sub-fields in the College of Business and Public Administration. I would call Recreation and Tourism Studies a mix of a Communication, Marketing, and Business Management major. I know Frattin and Malone were previously business majors as I had economics with them a few years back. I think Recreation and Tourism is slightly less rigorous academically (less math), so I think that's why they might have switched. I have not seen too many hockey players on our team major in engineering if any, but props to those that do. That's gotta be tough. Our third goalie is an accounting major, and having been forced to take accounting courses, I find that to be impressive. It is definitely harder to recruit the top end players to schools such as RPI because of their impressive academic standards. I don't think I would have been accepted into RPI and I was an honor student in high school. That said, I'm pleased with the education I received in North Dakota, so I have no complaints.
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I'll state what I said before my post was not a slight on UND I have no reason to believe it is anything but a fine institution I was just making the point that among many reasons a hockey player would choose your school... not the least of which your winning tradition is the fact that low SAT scores are a non issue and the diversity of fields of study are endless.Its just my opinion that some schools are for lack of a better phrase Hockey Factories. I don't say that in a derogatory way just that your success on the ice would tend to back that up."ALL" schools participate in some sort of academic gymnastics its just less difficult at some.Heck we play in a league in which over the years it can be said that the most consistant winning team is an Ivy League school and a large number of their players major in Hotel/Motel Mgm't...Having said all that I'am a big UND fan you not only have the best team in NCAA Hockey this year,but you also have the best Uniforms......Go UND you deserve to win...if you don't IMO the best team this year didn't win it all.
 
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troyboy said:
Heck we play in a league in which over the years it can be said that the most consistant winning team is an Ivy League school and a large number of their players major in Hotel/Motel Mgm't.
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It is quite important to know how to pour champagne correctly in case you win the Stanley Cup. :D
 
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