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RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

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lugnut92 said:
We all know why having the 25th most points doesn't make us #25, right?
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All? I doubt it.

IMHO when one votes 1-20, anything past 20 has poor accuracy and may not even reflect the voters' opinions.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
All? I doubt it.

IMHO when one votes 1-20, anything past 20 has poor accuracy and may not even reflect the voters' opinions.
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Exactly. If every single voter thinks a team is the 21st best team in the nation, they get zero votes. Anything after #20 is unranked "honorable mention".
 
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lugnut92 said:
Exactly. If every single voter thinks a team is the 21st best team in the nation, they get zero votes. Anything after #20 is unranked "honorable mention".
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The numbers in the high teens through 20 (actually every team which doesn't get votes from everyone) suffer from incomplete knowledge of what each voter thinks of the,

Of course, I am assuming that the voters actually know something which isn't a given either. :)
 
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Ralph Baer said:
The numbers in the high teens through 20 (actually every team which doesn't get votes from everyone) suffer from incomplete knowledge of what each voter thinks of the,

Of course, I am assuming that the voters actually know something which isn't a given either. :)
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Just don't ask AspyDad his opinion on that one. :p:D

I seem to remember once, on the Slap Schotts radio segment, Ken was talking about how he handles his vote when it comes to teams not in the ECAC. I recall it was a combination of scoreboard, computer rankings, and schedule, probably among other things not mentioned. Obviously no one can watch every single game in replay (if it's even available) and turn around to vote in a nearly 24-hour period.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Inertia http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/2015-2016/poll,1116/november-16,-2015/

#25 with 21 points
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Strongly suspect many of those voting just look at our overall record showing 4 losses. Only one team on the list has that many and all others have less. It does not seem to matter that our record against those top 20 teams is 3-2-1. It does not seem to matter to voters who you play in achieving the overall record you have. As most have said, we have to just keep our streak of 6 games of not losing and eventually we will see some movement. The 2 losses in Alaska have hung a bit of a weight around our neck early in the season and our winning percentage just gets the most attention. Simple solution to all of this is for us to go on a 20+ game undefeated streak.;)
 
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Although being ranked is nice, I'm sure any team will tell you they're more concerned with how they do in their own league.
 
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Congratulations to RPI's football team, which will be participating in an ECAC bowl game this Saturday. They will play Buffalo State at 5 PM Saturday on the campus of Central Connecticut State in New Britain, CT. All six of the ECAC's bowl games will be played at that site, over the course of three days.

Interesting to note that two Division III leagues primarily based in Eastern Pennsylvania, the Mid-Atlantic and Centennial Conferences, opted out of the ECAC bowl system once they learned that all of the ECAC bowl games would be played in Connecticut. They decided that it would be too much of an inconvenience for them to send their teams that distance, especially since not very many of their fans would be likely to make the trip. So the MAC and CC scheduled their own pair of bowl games involving the second and third place teams in each league, with the games to be played at campus sites.

I guess RPI lucks out to some degree, since a trip to Connecticut is likely to be less of a bother for them than it will be for Buff State.
 
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The story isn't that the replay system mysteriously failed, it's how Schroeder and Appert again demonstrated why the hockey community has so little respect for RPI, it's players, and Seth Appert.

“I got it out from the goal line,” Schroeder said, “and then I don’t know what happened after that. I saw when Cam made the initial save, when it was trickling in, I got that out and from there, I couldn’t tell you.”

“Zach made a good defensive play,” Appert said. “He dove for a puck and he whacked it from behind Cam and then it hit Cam and it was laying under Zach, I think, and apparently didn’t go in...We have four officials on the ice and they were in good position to see. All four didn’t see it go in." That's a remarkably detailed description of what happened - all by a coach who suggested he missed the obvious fact the puck was resting in the back of the net.

Schroeder and Appert both know exactly what happened, and they know everyone else does also. It is any wonder why high-character players don't want to be associated with RPI and Appert - and why ECAC coaches so disrespect him? While RPI was fortunate to get the point, Appert and his player missed a chance to begin turning around the classless reputation of RPI Hockey.
 
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Vaportrail said:
hooey
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Is anything that Schroeder said wrong? He cleared it from the goal line while diving. It's entirely possible that he didn't see the puck bounce off Hackett's skate into the net. After all the commotion with the net coming off and without the benefit of seeing the replay, he may have thought the puck didn't go in until after the whistle.

As for Appert, again, did he have the benefit of replay when he made his statements? You're making your judgements after having seen the slo-mo replay 20 times on RPI TV, which was apparently unavailable to the referees. In real time, I wouldn't fault anyone, including the refs who blew the initial call, for not seeing the puck go in. A lot happened after the whistle that could have pushed the puck into the net, so they can't just assume the puck went in before the net came off or before the whistle.

As for the bull**** claim about the hockey community having no respect for RPI, I'd like to know why our AD was the head of the tournament selection committee for years, or why Appert was the head of the American Hockey Coaches Association? Where is this lack of respect? You might not respect us, but you sure as **** don't speak for the community as a whole.
 
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Relax Lug, can't win a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed. if the call went against RPI, even if it was a bad one, everybody would be laughing and trashing on RPI. When RPI is the beneficiaries of a bad call, RPI lacks class and respect, so it's no win either way. At least real fans can see right through the BS of the Appert haters..
 
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Vaportrail said:
The story isn't that the replay system mysteriously failed, it's how Schroeder and Appert again demonstrated why the hockey community has so little respect for RPI, it's players, and Seth Appert.

“I got it out from the goal line,” Schroeder said, “and then I don’t know what happened after that. I saw when Cam made the initial save, when it was trickling in, I got that out and from there, I couldn’t tell you.”

“Zach made a good defensive play,” Appert said. “He dove for a puck and he whacked it from behind Cam and then it hit Cam and it was laying under Zach, I think, and apparently didn’t go in...We have four officials on the ice and they were in good position to see. All four didn’t see it go in." That's a remarkably detailed description of what happened - all by a coach who suggested he missed the obvious fact the puck was resting in the back of the net.

Schroeder and Appert both know exactly what happened, and they know everyone else does also. It is any wonder why high-character players don't want to be associated with RPI and Appert - and why ECAC coaches so disrespect him? While RPI was fortunate to get the point, Appert and his player missed a chance to begin turning around the classless reputation of RPI Hockey.
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Flagdude is that you under a different handle?
 
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jericho said:
Relax Lug, can't win a battle of wits with someone who's unarmed. if the call went against RPI, even if it was a bad one, everybody would be laughing and trashing on RPI. When RPI is the beneficiaries of a bad call, RPI lacks class and respect, so it's no win either way. At least real fans can see right through the BS of the Appert haters..
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Sorry, sometimes I get a little worked up. I fed the troll.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

Vaportrail said:
The story isn't that the replay system mysteriously failed, it's how Schroeder and Appert again demonstrated why the hockey community has so little respect for RPI, it's players, and Seth Appert.

“I got it out from the goal line,” Schroeder said, “and then I don’t know what happened after that. I saw when Cam made the initial save, when it was trickling in, I got that out and from there, I couldn’t tell you.”

“Zach made a good defensive play,” Appert said. “He dove for a puck and he whacked it from behind Cam and then it hit Cam and it was laying under Zach, I think, and apparently didn’t go in...We have four officials on the ice and they were in good position to see. All four didn’t see it go in." That's a remarkably detailed description of what happened - all by a coach who suggested he missed the obvious fact the puck was resting in the back of the net.

Schroeder and Appert both know exactly what happened, and they know everyone else does also. It is any wonder why high-character players don't want to be associated with RPI and Appert - and why ECAC coaches so disrespect him? While RPI was fortunate to get the point, Appert and his player missed a chance to begin turning around the classless reputation of RPI Hockey.
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DrD,

What would you proscribe to treat the vapors? ;)
 
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