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RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
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rvd5star69
hockey
Thanks for all the information. The one thing that all of the simulations cannot take into consideration is how disorganized and confused we have looked at times. Same players out there, for the most part, but scrambled lines and defensive pairings. Some times it looks like after 25+ games we look like we have just started the season and no one is on the same page yet.
Question-RPI has an extremely long hockey history in Division I. Most consider the modern era as the past 65 years(roughly). Has any coach at RPI had more than 4 losing seasons other than SA? This will be his 9 season in Troy and this will be our 6th losing season. Other than Garry Kearns(who inherited just an impossible situation in 1965-66 and we had a 3-19 season) have even close to the winning percentage of the past 9 years? And although we play far more games now in a season than in the old days of coach Harkness, we will have had 4 seasons with 20 losses and only 1 season with 20 wins in our past 9 years. Success in the playoffs? Attending and ECAC final four? Memory fails me of those events. All of this in spite of 9 recruiting classes and years of graduations and turnover. With this much time passing and this many players coming and going, the only constant has been the coaching and the system in place.
I am certainly no hockey maven, but in medicine, when a treatment or therapy is not working, we have to make changes somewhere. Sometimes we switch to another medication, sometimes we increases dosages, and sometimes we call in another doctor to confer as a specialist. It just seems to me that after 9 years, the results speak for themselves.
Boring day here so I just thought i would stir up a bit of action and controversy.
Honest post
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
The honest truth.
Thanks for all the information. The one thing that all of the simulations cannot take into consideration is how disorganized and confused we have looked at times. Same players out there, for the most part, but scrambled lines and defensive pairings. Some times it looks like after 25+ games we look like we have just started the season and no one is on the same page yet.
Question-RPI has an extremely long hockey history in Division I. Most consider the modern era as the past 65 years(roughly). Has any coach at RPI had more than 4 losing seasons other than SA? This will be his 9 season in Troy and this will be our 6th losing season. Other than Garry Kearns(who inherited just an impossible situation in 1965-66 and we had a 3-19 season) have even close to the winning percentage of the past 9 years? And although we play far more games now in a season than in the old days of coach Harkness, we will have had 4 seasons with 20 losses and only 1 season with 20 wins in our past 9 years. Success in the playoffs? Attending and ECAC final four? Memory fails me of those events. All of this in spite of 9 recruiting classes and years of graduations and turnover. With this much time passing and this many players coming and going, the only constant has been the coaching and the system in place.
I am certainly no hockey maven, but in medicine, when a treatment or therapy is not working, we have to make changes somewhere. Sometimes we switch to another medication, sometimes we increases dosages, and sometimes we call in another doctor to confer as a specialist. It just seems to me that after 9 years, the results speak for themselves.
Boring day here so I just thought i would stir up a bit of action and controversy.
The honest truth.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Well it is time to pack their bags. Tonight's results have just about guaranteed a road trip for the first round (I wouldn't recommend packing for more than a two-day stay). With the modified KRACH ratings and the remaining schedules for the final three weekends the Monte Carlo simulation gives the following probabilities for RPIs ECAC finish:
7th - 1.6%
tie 7th - 0.0%
8th - 4.0%
tie 8th - 0.0%
9th - 61.2%
tie 9th - 8.0%
10th - 25.2%
Probability of being on the road - 94.4%
Well it is time to pack their bags. Tonight's results have just about guaranteed a road trip for the first round (I wouldn't recommend packing for more than a two-day stay). With the modified KRACH ratings and the remaining schedules for the final three weekends the Monte Carlo simulation gives the following probabilities for RPIs ECAC finish:
7th - 1.6%
tie 7th - 0.0%
8th - 4.0%
tie 8th - 0.0%
9th - 61.2%
tie 9th - 8.0%
10th - 25.2%
Probability of being on the road - 94.4%
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rvd5star69
hockey
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
We will finish 8th
I have weird feeling we play Union first round
We will sweep this weekend at home #brf
How about we recruit a freaking face off guy
I hope Scotty d starts senior night
Kasdorf is leaving 100% in my mind
Bennett says unions a part time team lol what does that make us unemployed
We will finish 8th
I have weird feeling we play Union first round
We will sweep this weekend at home #brf
How about we recruit a freaking face off guy
I hope Scotty d starts senior night
Kasdorf is leaving 100% in my mind
Bennett says unions a part time team lol what does that make us unemployed
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Read on Facebook that babo was "in the line of fire" with the glass. Glad she's OK.
Read on Facebook that babo was "in the line of fire" with the glass. Glad she's OK.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
ServinisScores
I'm an Implant Engineer
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Another piece of data for those who disregard winning seasons (??) in lieu of a playoff run - since the current regime started, RPI is the ONLY program to not reach the ECAC Frozen Four...ALL other 11 programs have appeared at least once.
Another piece of data for those who disregard winning seasons (??) in lieu of a playoff run - since the current regime started, RPI is the ONLY program to not reach the ECAC Frozen Four...ALL other 11 programs have appeared at least once.
Even if we finish ahead of union, we still finish 9th and hit the road. Right now this team is pretty bad in every phase of the game. Let's hope they can figure a way to capture what they had going earlier in the season. LGR!
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
We've lost the Cleary; best we can do with miracle results is second.
We've lost the Cleary; best we can do with miracle results is second.
engineerhockeyfan
PUCKMAN RULES!!!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
A lot of people on this thread think that the team is not giving it 100%. They keep asking for a 60 minute effort.
Well, I watched this ugly weekend, and I can tell you that they are giving it all they have.
The problem is not effort, it is a team looking for an identity and a system that will give them a chance to win.
They are not playing like a team, just a bunch of individuals trying to figure something out.
There is no chemistry and it shows.
I don't know if it is lack of confidence in themselves or in the coaching staff, but some kind of change is needed.
JMO
A lot of people on this thread think that the team is not giving it 100%. They keep asking for a 60 minute effort.
Well, I watched this ugly weekend, and I can tell you that they are giving it all they have.
The problem is not effort, it is a team looking for an identity and a system that will give them a chance to win.
They are not playing like a team, just a bunch of individuals trying to figure something out.
There is no chemistry and it shows.
I don't know if it is lack of confidence in themselves or in the coaching staff, but some kind of change is needed.
JMO
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
After 30 games they are trying to figure something out? Really? If they are playing as individuals then I would argue that they are not giving 100%. For if they are then this team is not as talented as some have postulated. You bet their confidence is shot. You can see it in the hesitation when they get the puck and the panic leading to so many icings. After 9 seasons it is way past time to 'change him up'.
After 30 games they are trying to figure something out? Really? If they are playing as individuals then I would argue that they are not giving 100%. For if they are then this team is not as talented as some have postulated. You bet their confidence is shot. You can see it in the hesitation when they get the puck and the panic leading to so many icings. After 9 seasons it is way past time to 'change him up'.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
How can you lose something you didn't have?
How can you lose something you didn't have?
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
He might look at it as a new challenge and an opportunity to work at a very different kind of institution than he has in the past. He's done a lot with football and hoops in the past, now he gets to work on a campus where hockey's the primary (and only D-I) sport. Maybe he's already seeing hockey as a "rebuilding opportunity." I noticed within a day or two of the announcement he said he was going to raise awareness of RPI athletics by creating a "culture of winning." He certainly did that at SUNY.
He might look at it as a new challenge and an opportunity to work at a very different kind of institution than he has in the past. He's done a lot with football and hoops in the past, now he gets to work on a campus where hockey's the primary (and only D-I) sport. Maybe he's already seeing hockey as a "rebuilding opportunity." I noticed within a day or two of the announcement he said he was going to raise awareness of RPI athletics by creating a "culture of winning." He certainly did that at SUNY.
engineerhockeyfan
PUCKMAN RULES!!!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
DeepRed, I sense a little frustration in your post. And I will not argue against a change in leadership.
But the players that are trying the most are the ones who are trying to put the team on their backs because the system isn't working.
Unfortunately, they don't realize that hockey is a team sport, and playing as an individual only makes it worse.
We have some very talented players out there that have not been put in a position to show off their talents and possibly win some games.
The coaches have lost this team. And I feel bad for the talented players who have gotten caught up in the confusion.
DeepRed, I sense a little frustration in your post. And I will not argue against a change in leadership.
But the players that are trying the most are the ones who are trying to put the team on their backs because the system isn't working.
Unfortunately, they don't realize that hockey is a team sport, and playing as an individual only makes it worse.
We have some very talented players out there that have not been put in a position to show off their talents and possibly win some games.
The coaches have lost this team. And I feel bad for the talented players who have gotten caught up in the confusion.
rvd5star69
hockey
No one develops in their 4 years usually. Systems suck .
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
The good thing is that it would save me money.
My concern is that if he stays he or whoever the new AD is will try to change us into a football/basketball school.
The good thing is that it would save me money.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Some players develop. I think that Curadi has developed a lot in his four years. He might be the only senior who I can say that about.
Some players develop. I think that Curadi has developed a lot in his four years. He might be the only senior who I can say that about.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
We did lose the opportunity to clinch the Cleary Cup.
How can you lose something you didn't have?
We did lose the opportunity to clinch the Cleary Cup.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015 Part II: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
IMHO I think that's unlikely, so feel free to keep going with your free-spending ways. I could see moving football to D-I FCS. But so many schools have gone this route that anyone who tries to do so now is playing a very tough game of catch-up, it seems. With hockey, the framework for re-establishing the school's identity as a challenger power is already there (I say "challenger" because while it's not Michigan, North Dakota, Minn., etc. at its best the program in the past has been competitive with the elites who are in the national tourney every year or so). But with hockey, you have the history/tradition, lots of famous names associated with the school, and a pretty loyal fan base that has remained consistent despite the struggles in the W-L column the last several years. So, much of the heavy lifting is really already done. I do give SA some credit for playing up the team's history. He seems to recognize its value. The hockey brand is still worth something. If I were taking the job I would see restoring hockey to the national conversation as goal (pun intended) #1. Of course there are limits to that, as the school is in a league that overall does a pretty poor job marketing itself and I think this hurts RPI, especially being in the same league as the Ivies. As we've discussed that's not likely to change anytime soon. But the ECAC has reasserted itself nationally in recent years and to me, stringing together some solid winning seasons, getting this program back to making deep postseason runs and maybe even becoming a not-uncommon participant in the national tourney are all realistic.
The question I have - others have raised it too - is how committed SAJ is to this program. I would be curious to hear her vision for the program and how it fits into that of the school as a whole.
IMHO I think that's unlikely, so feel free to keep going with your free-spending ways. I could see moving football to D-I FCS. But so many schools have gone this route that anyone who tries to do so now is playing a very tough game of catch-up, it seems. With hockey, the framework for re-establishing the school's identity as a challenger power is already there (I say "challenger" because while it's not Michigan, North Dakota, Minn., etc. at its best the program in the past has been competitive with the elites who are in the national tourney every year or so). But with hockey, you have the history/tradition, lots of famous names associated with the school, and a pretty loyal fan base that has remained consistent despite the struggles in the W-L column the last several years. So, much of the heavy lifting is really already done. I do give SA some credit for playing up the team's history. He seems to recognize its value. The hockey brand is still worth something. If I were taking the job I would see restoring hockey to the national conversation as goal (pun intended) #1. Of course there are limits to that, as the school is in a league that overall does a pretty poor job marketing itself and I think this hurts RPI, especially being in the same league as the Ivies. As we've discussed that's not likely to change anytime soon. But the ECAC has reasserted itself nationally in recent years and to me, stringing together some solid winning seasons, getting this program back to making deep postseason runs and maybe even becoming a not-uncommon participant in the national tourney are all realistic.
The question I have - others have raised it too - is how committed SAJ is to this program. I would be curious to hear her vision for the program and how it fits into that of the school as a whole.