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RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

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I assume that you mean 12-18 credits per semester not per year. I didn't think that it went up from as much as from $1200 to $1600 shortly before I arrived. My recollection was back then they raised tuition every two years. It was $1200, $1800, $1800, and $2050 my four years. It was $1600 the year before I arrived, and although I do not know what it was in 1962-3, I would think that it was more than $1200.

The R&H which I used was the 6th printing. I wonder why they used an unbound version shortly before. Are you sure that you aren't thinking of the chem book which was as you described? I wonder if I still have the chem book. R&H I have because I had it at work and it is sitting here now on a shelf with all of the text books which I had at work and brought home when I retired. I never had use at work for chemistry.

In any case it is not really important.

Nope-It was the draft version of R&H-but I do not still have it. I am a pack rat and would have it but we had a flood here with Superstorm Sandy and much of my old RPI stuff, including all my Bachelor magazines(:() were destroyed. I had all my transcripts that they mailed to my parents and almost all my old books. The tuition was per semester and since my first bill was $1200(RPI paid $1100 via scholarship and my folks paid $100). The second semester was $1515 for 21 credits taken and RPI picked up the same $1100 of it via scholarship and the remaining $315 was a loan given to me at 3% interest and did not have to be paid back until starting one year after graduation(unless payment was deferred by being called into the armed services). I cannot absolutely say for sure, but my second year was $1600 for at least the first semester. i cannot document the second semester of my second year. I did take course at Union College during the summer because at that time they were $40 per credit and RPI accepted the credits in full if i received a B or better in each course. I took 12 credits at Union for a little over $500(I used by NYS Regents scholarship to pay that entire bill) including some extra fees so after my first year I had 39 credits from RPI and 12 from Union for a total of 51 credits.
After practicing medicine for 45 years, i think if i took 51 credits today during one year at RPI I could not afford it.:eek:
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

Do you think that the rise in cost in real figures has anything to do with demand?

Academic research has indicated that the cost increase in real terms is directly correlated with the increase in government aid over the same time period.

(Note I said "correlated", not "caused by"). It wouldn't surprise me if the actual out-of-pocket costs incurred by students hasn't changed nearly as much as the gross tuition figure.

For example, winners of the Rensselaer Medal pay half of the nominal cost.
 
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Do you think that the rise in cost in real figures has anything to do with demand?

When I left the 'tute, total expenses was around $47,000/year; I'd venture a guess that around $35,000 of that was tuition up to 21 credits each semester (room/board was most of the rest).If I had to venture a guess, I'd say tuition is up to around $45,000-$50,000 per year; I do recall a 7% hike in two of the four years. Part of it is architecturally poor (in terms of handling weather) buildings such as the Biotech (not sure if that's ever actually used), EMPAC, and the ECAV vestibule. Part of it is Dr. Jackson demanding more money for herselt. But, given tuition has gone up for colleges across the country pretty steadily, even during financial crashes in 2001 and 2008, I would say it is because the millennial (and part of X) generations were influenced that college seems to be a necessity if you want to get anywhere in life. Whether that's true is debatable, but we have seen quite an increase in collegiate-bound teenagers in the fast few decades.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

Academic research has indicated that the cost increase in real terms is directly correlated with the increase in government aid over the same time period.

(Note I said "correlated", not "caused by"). It wouldn't surprise me if the actual out-of-pocket costs incurred by students hasn't changed nearly as much as the gross tuition figure.

For example, winners of the Rensselaer Medal pay half of the nominal cost.

Not quite half, unless you're only considering tuition. The medal scholarship, at least the one I received, was $15,000/year. This flat amount does not change as a percentage of tuition, but generally speaking (as it was $10,000/year around the turn of the century, not sure how much it is now), it's about there.

Also, tuition hikes are not always subsidized through government aid. In 2007, tuition increased 7%, but no additional aid was offered. My EFC went from 0 to the value of the tuition increase. Additional aid was offered during my other two "between years".
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

This is a bit off-topic but as Ralph points out it is 200 days until our next game. I just wanted to give a shout out to fellow alumnus and sometimes poster to the USCHO site, Tyler Hinman. Rooting for you to bring back the Crossword Puzzle Championship Title (to be contested March 27-29).

Cheers, gents. Training a bit harder this year, so hopefully I get the breaks and get back to the top.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

Today is 19 March 2015. There are 198 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 3 October 2015 for the start of next season.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

Today is 20 March 2015. There are 197 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 3 October 2015 for the start of next season.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

One of the many things I don't like about bounceyball, the person on offense can throw the ball at the person on defense and have it go off him
and the person on defense gets a foul. We thought the ECAC refs were bad, but these basic rules are kinda ridiculous.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

Today is 21 March 2015. There are 196 days (28 weeks) until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 3 October 2015 for the start of next season.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

One of the many things I don't like about bounceyball, the person on offense can throw the ball at the person on defense and have it go off him
and the person on defense gets a foul. We thought the ECAC refs were bad, but these basic rules are kinda ridiculous.

What was the foul for? I can't think of what it would be. Throwing the ball off the D-man and having it go out of bounds is fairly common in plenty of sports (whoever touches it last loses possession of the ball), and a kick of the ball is not a foul, but a violation that resets the shot clock.
 
Re: RPI 2015 Off Season Thread: Another Long Spring and Summer :(

One of the many things I don't like about bounceyball, the person on offense can throw the ball at the person on defense and have it go off him
and the person on defense gets a foul. We thought the ECAC refs were bad, but these basic rules are kinda ridiculous.

At least they get to use their hands. ;)

To me it is ridiculous to call something a "sport" in which you basically walk around all day, and occasionally whack a tiny sphere trying to put it in a hole in the ground, and then, as soon as you get it in the hole, you take it out immediately and then try and put it in another hole.

I can see calling that a "skills contest", but a "sport" seems a bit much. Darts is as much of a "sport"! or bowling.

"Hey, honey, let's go out for a walk."
- but I want to do 'sports'
"Well, then, we'll add an element of skill to it and call it a 'sport' then, okay?"
- okay. But we still get to do the walking around part, don't we?
"Of course."

(pun intended)
 
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