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RPI 2013/14 Part II: The HFH is Covered with Frozen Drivel

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RPI67 said:
I think my tuition was $1400-1964, $1600-1965, $1800-1966, $2000-1967 total $6,800 with other costs about the same so maybe $15,000. I had a job offer for $9,200 in 1967. I stayed 1 year for a masters and started at a defense company for $12,000 worked 40 years and collect a pension. The RPI degress were a very good ROI of cost and experience competing with all you smart guys. All helped in my career.

Looking forward to more great RPI hockey starting tomorrow. Go RED.
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My recollection is slightly different. I assume that the years are the years after January. I don't know what 1964 was, and 1965 and 1966 were indeed the numbers which you listed, but I recall that 1967 was also $1800 and 1968 was $2050.

As to great RPI hockey, I think that you will have to wait another week. :(
 
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When I was there, $40k, $43k, $45k, $48k, and that was for pretty much everything. Mine was medal scholarship and need-based aid with government subsidies. Ended up with 30k in loans, job starting around 50k straight out, and paid off in three years despite waiting the 6 month grace period. Of course, I also accelerated payment on the highest interest bearing loans.

My, how times have changed.
 
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A few more data points.

My freshman year, fall '99/spring '00, tuition was $22300. The meal plan was $1916. Nason Hall was $3828. Activity fee: $352. Health Insurance and Health Center fee: $640. Freshman Orientation fee: $150. Rensselaer ID card fee: $30. Books/Materials for both semesters: $670. That's just shy of $30 grand.

My senior year, fall '02/spring '03, tuition had skyrocketed to $26400 (~18% increase). The meal plan was $3982 (~100% increase!); my nice single in the E-Complex was $4380 (~14% increase). Activity fee: $425 (~20% increase). Health Insurance and Health Center fee: $954 (~50% increase). Vehicle parking registration: $64. Books/Materials for both semesters: $815. That's $37k.

Now, according to RPI, for fall '13/spring '14, tuition: $45100. Room and board: $12960. Fees: $1169. Books/Materials: $2591. That's just about $62k. :eek:

I don't know how parents do it these days. As much as I miss my years at the 'tute, I'm glad I'm done. :D
 
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RPI_2003 said:
A few more data points.

My freshman year, fall '99/spring '00, tuition was $22300. The meal plan was $1916. Nason Hall was $3828. Activity fee: $352. Health Insurance and Health Center fee: $640. Freshman Orientation fee: $150. Rensselaer ID card fee: $30. Books/Materials for both semesters: $670. That's just shy of $30 grand.

My senior year, fall '02/spring '03, tuition had skyrocketed to $26400 (~18% increase). The meal plan was $3982 (~100% increase!); my nice single in the E-Complex was $4380 (~14% increase). Activity fee: $425 (~20% increase). Health Insurance and Health Center fee: $954 (~50% increase). Vehicle parking registration: $64. Books/Materials for both semesters: $815. That's $37k.

Now, according to RPI, for fall '13/spring '14, tuition: $45100. Room and board: $12960. Fees: $1169. Books/Materials: $2591. That's just about $62k. :eek:

I don't know how parents do it these days. As much as I miss my years at the 'tute, I'm glad I'm done. :D
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Some of it has to do with government subsidies. Because there is a body willing to guarantee payment, there's no reason why they shouldn't take advantage of that. However, my senior year did not see an increase in grants despite a 7% increase in tuition. A lot more of it has to do with demand. Children have had the idea indoctrinated into their brainwashed minds that they must go to college in order to succeed in life. When the demand for a product increases, the seller can maximize the profits made by increasing the price, because people will be willing to pay for it. Obviously because an educational institution is typically considered a non-profit-making organization (hard to believe in the case of RPI), the cash has to go somewhere, and although we've been seeing the queen's pockets being lined, there is more that can be done at the institute without having to incur as much more long-term debt. Obviously the demand for specific things has caused inflation, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.
 
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Expensive Frozen Drivel..

One week to go until our next game.
 
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RPI_2003 said:
Now, according to RPI, for fall '13/spring '14, tuition: $45100. Room and board: $12960. Fees: $1169. Books/Materials: $2591. That's just about $62k. :eek:

I don't know how parents do it these days. As much as I miss my years at the 'tute, I'm glad I'm done. :D
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I tossed out that link earlier which I suppose is based on fairly recent data-simply to show that RPI is ranked extremely well as far as ROI(even now with skyrocketing tuition and expenses). Being listed as #20 out of about 3500 schools is pretty darn good! Recent graduates and those still attending might not have the perspective just yet but it appears that us older guys who have been away from RPI for an extended period of time really have nothing to complain about;) $62k compared to my final year in 1966 does appear staggering though(but my first year post RPI getting paid was 1970 and as I mentioned my total year's compensation then was $5000).
 
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DrDemento said:
I tossed out that link earlier which I suppose is based on fairly recent data-simply to show that RPI is ranked extremely well as far as ROI(even now with skyrocketing tuition and expenses). Being listed as #20 out of about 3500 schools is pretty darn good! Recent graduates and those still attending might not have the perspective just yet but it appears that us older guys who have been away from RPI for an extended period of time really have nothing to complain about;) $62k compared to my final year in 1966 does appear staggering though(but my first year post RPI getting paid was 1970 and as I mentioned my total year's compensation then was $5000).
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I do agree that, for RPI and a handful of other schools, the ROI is still there (it certainly worked out well for me)... but for many other schools, and many other students, it's a different story. Something to keep in mind is that the average household income in the US is something around $52k and to FlagDude's point, if it weren't for the government-subsidized loans, there likely wouldn't be enough students to justify these prices and therefore probably not many of these schools would continue to exist. But I digress.
/expensive frozen drivel

Six days until RPI hockey!
 
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Time for me to chime in.

I have a couple of data points, I attended from '75 -'79 (BS in Biology), and tuition was in the $5.5-7K range if I remember correctly. My folks paid for my tuition and R+B, I paid for all incidentals (books, booze, travel), Went from there to Univ of Wisc. for a PhD. I can't say that RPI has been THE critical item in my pedigree, but I can say that it has opened some doors, and it gave me a solid background in chemistry and math which have served me in good stead during my career. I was one of the few biologists that understood differential equations and how to apply them to biological systems; enabling a move over to the biology/computer interface arena a few years ago; a place where some biologists and computer scientists fear to tread. Been gainfully employed for the past ~30 years in pharma drug discovery.

Second data point is eldest son, graduated from the 'Tute in 2010, with a BS in EE. Immediately found a job in his field (during a tough economy), partially due to the name recognition of RPI (several of the Sr. VPs have ties to the school). He got scholarships (leadership and legacy) that brought the cost down to in-state costs at UCONN, so his (mine?) ROI is great.

Regarding how to pay for this, we started planning when our kids were born. We always figured that they would go to post-secondary schooling of some sort, and even then we knew it was going to get really expensive. We set up trust funds for their education prior to their first birthday, and kept kicking in. While this killed any chance for need-based grants, it let me sleep at night. We did the same deal, tuition + room + board, they did the other bits. So our kids got out of 4 year private school with no debt and a promise that they would pay it forward to their kids.

As an aside, my Dad went to Clarkson, and he always encouraged me to go to RPI. I looked at CCT (as it was called then), and just didn't feel the love. It's a good school, but not on the same level as RPI.
 
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TuteScrooge said:
Time for me to chime in.

I have a couple of data points, I attended from '75 -'79 (BS in Biology), and tuition was in the $5.5-7K range if I remember correctly. My folks paid for my tuition and R+B, I paid for all incidentals (books, booze, travel), Went from there to Univ of Wisc. for a PhD. I can't say that RPI has been THE critical item in my pedigree, but I can say that it has opened some doors, and it gave me a solid background in chemistry and math which have served me in good stead during my career. I was one of the few biologists that understood differential equations and how to apply them to biological systems; enabling a move over to the biology/computer interface arena a few years ago; a place where some biologists and computer scientists fear to tread. Been gainfully employed for the past ~30 years in pharma drug discovery.

Second data point is eldest son, graduated from the 'Tute in 2010, with a BS in EE. Immediately found a job in his field (during a tough economy), partially due to the name recognition of RPI (several of the Sr. VPs have ties to the school). He got scholarships (leadership and legacy) that brought the cost down to in-state costs at UCONN, so his (mine?) ROI is great.

Regarding how to pay for this, we started planning when our kids were born. We always figured that they would go to post-secondary schooling of some sort, and even then we knew it was going to get really expensive. We set up trust funds for their education prior to their first birthday, and kept kicking in. While this killed any chance for need-based grants, it let me sleep at night. We did the same deal, tuition + room + board, they did the other bits. So our kids got out of 4 year private school with no debt and a promise that they would pay it forward to their kids.

As an aside, my Dad went to Clarkson, and he always encouraged me to go to RPI. I looked at CCT (as it was called then), and just didn't feel the love. It's a good school, but not on the same level as RPI.
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Your father certainly sounds like he was a very wise man.:)
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Yeah, it's really too bad. FSN needs another Alternate Channel. Or just broadcast it on Fox College Sports. I realize there are probably financial restraints to doing either, but it really sucks that this potential matchup won't be televised.
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Here's the update with TV on Saturday night at 7/8pm:

FOX Sports North: Minnesota Wild
FOX Sports North +: Minnesota Timberwolves
FOX Sports Detroit: Detroit Red Wings
NBC Sports: Notre Dame @ Boston College
CBS Sports: College Basketball - Harvard @ Rice
ESPNU: College Basketball - Indiana State @ Evansville
FCSA: Anchorage @ Wisco
FCSC: College Basketball - Texas A&M @ Oral Roberts
FCSP: College Basketball - Eastern Kentucky @ Southern Illinois

So basically, every network that broadcasts college hockey is broadcasting live content that night. There is one network left that officials are working to finalize details to broadcast the Minnesota 7/8pm Saturday night game. Will be announced ASAP.

Regardless, although Minnesota does not typically video stream their games, they will be streaming all 4 this weekend on www.GopherSports.com.


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Ferris State Hockey Video Center: http://www.ferrisstatebulldogs.com/sports/mice/2013-14/videos/Mariucci_Classic
 
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Happy New Year to all.

Seems like a couple of Ferris State's players might be looking past us to the championship game.
That could come back to bite them.
 
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Did anyone else notice during the U-18 game that they tried putting Curadi in front of the net on the PP? Wonder if that was just for the heck of it (given I only recall it happening once), or if the Diesel-Bubs PP line is going to see a bit of a change...
 
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That other network was the Big Ten Network:

Minnesota announced that the 7 p.m. central game on Saturday night will be broadcast nationally on BTN and streamed on BTN2Go.com

Regardless if Minnesota wins or loses tomorrow night, they will play at 7 central/8 eastern on the Big Ten Network. That means if Minnesota loses, the championship game will be played at 4/5 on Saturday without TV coverage.
 
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DominicHennig said:
That other network was the Big Ten Network:

Minnesota announced that the 7 p.m. central game on Saturday night will be broadcast nationally on BTN and streamed on BTN2Go.com

Regardless if Minnesota wins or loses tomorrow night, they will play at 7 central/8 eastern on the Big Ten Network. That means if Minnesota loses, the championship game will be played at 4/5 on Saturday without TV coverage.
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I'm looking at my guide (DirecTV) right now and it shows Neb. vs Ohio St. BBall for that time.
 
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