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>>> RIT Tigers 2018/2019 - Time For The Tigers to Roar <<<

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Air Force website goes back to the 06-07 roster. All of the players are American born. SOOOOOO.....either Air Force cannot recruit a foreign player for an athletic team or they do not because of choice . Maybe a foreign person can enlist or had lineage from 1 parent and had dual citizenship (just guessing) but not play on an athletic team? I looked at the Air Force Lacrosse rosters. Canada has a strong lacrosse presence as well as hockey and there were no foreign players on the lax team, back to 06-07.

Lets just agree, the recuiting pool for Air Force and Army are smaller then every other team in college hockey and they do more with less then others.

Just helping people.....

It's very, very difficult for a foreigner to attend a U.S. military academy. It takes special exceptions for special reasons. So, it's probably not worth it for coaches to even attempt to go through the process no matter how good the player is, especially since there's no guarantees it will happen.

"The US military academies also have foreign soldiers that commission into their own countries’ militaries, rather than the US military. The US Military Academy at West Point has 60 foreign cadets at any time."

"Up to 60 international cadets may study at West Point at any given time. Eligible countries are selected on an annual basis by the U.S. State Department and the U.S. Department of Defense. The American embassies notify invited nations to nominate up to six candidates per country to compete for admission to West Point."

"Per Title 10 of the United States Code, the maximum number of international students at the United States Air Force Academy at any one time is 60. We admit approximately 15 international students each year. International applicants must meet the same admissions requirements as all regular applicants, however, there are differences in the application process."

"To apply for a nomination, write your country’s government. Your letter should contain complete details about your background and your potential for success at the Academy. It should be received at least one year prior to the date of admission. The Defense Attaché Office at the American Embassy can direct you to the correct ministry in your country. DO NOT apply directly to the Air Force Academy or other United States government officials."

In other words, no coach is going to bother trying to recruit a foreign player...
 
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It's very, very difficult for a foreigner to attend a U.S. military academy. It takes special exceptions for special reasons. So, it's probably not worth it for coaches to even attempt to go through the process no matter how good the player is, especially since there's no guarantees it will happen.

"The US military academies also have foreign soldiers that commission into their own countries’ militaries, rather than the US military. The US Military Academy at West Point has 60 foreign cadets at any time."

"Up to 60 international cadets may study at West Point at any given time. Eligible countries are selected on an annual basis by the U.S. State Department and the U.S. Department of Defense. The American embassies notify invited nations to nominate up to six candidates per country to compete for admission to West Point."

"Per Title 10 of the United States Code, the maximum number of international students at the United States Air Force Academy at any one time is 60. We admit approximately 15 international students each year. International applicants must meet the same admissions requirements as all regular applicants, however, there are differences in the application process."

"To apply for a nomination, write your country’s government. Your letter should contain complete details about your background and your potential for success at the Academy. It should be received at least one year prior to the date of admission. The Defense Attaché Office at the American Embassy can direct you to the correct ministry in your country. DO NOT apply directly to the Air Force Academy or other United States government officials."

In other words, no coach is going to bother trying to recruit a foreign player...


7 Division I commits from the Rochester Midget team which plays out of Bill Grays Ice Complex about a mile from RIT.

http://rochestergrizzlies.com/Default.asp?org=ROCHESTERGRIZZLIES.COM#484052
 
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For the record, the only officiating issues I have had this season involve the baffling inability to correctly use replay to wipe out an obvious non-goal. And I have issues in general with leagues being allowed to use their own referees for inter-conference home games (and I'm not sure the two aren't linked here). I mean, I still think Jablonski or whatever his name is is an atrocious official, but neither he nor any other Atlantic Hockey official is the reason RIT has lost games this year.

Last weekend RIT just got their butts kicked - any complaining about the officials, especially on Friday night, comes off as nothing more than sour grapes. I also doubt you'd be hearing as many complaints if RIT could actually score on their own power plays. What are they, 0 for their last 20 at this point?
 
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What's your point? That locals should play at the local schools? I think that's an absurd assumption.

Totally agree - especially for RIT. For one, we don't know what they are planning to major in. There are majors that RIT is well known for and there are some that they aren't. Second, aside from the player going to Dartmouth, the rest are likely on athletic scholarships which RIT cannot provide (and let's not beat that dead horse again). Lastly, only 1 is going to an Atlantic Hockey rival.

It would be nice to get some of the best home grown talent. RIT has had a couple players that were home grown in the past. I'm not against going after them. I wouldn't be surprised if they were at least looked at by the coaching staff - whether they had a realistic shot at getting anyone is another matter.
 
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For the record, the only officiating issues I have had this season involve the baffling inability to correctly use replay to wipe out an obvious non-goal.

The danger that comes from criticizing officials is that many people can't wrap their head around the idea that you can criticize referees without saying that they cost one or the other team the game.

My criticism generally lands in two areas: 1) Failing to call contact to the head (which AHA's memo last week about Mercyhurst/Robert Morris pointed out); 2) Failing to call the penalties that the NCAA has asked to be enforced to allow a free flow to the game: holding, hooking, interference. The offshoot of not calling penalties is a game in which the players begin to take things into their own hands.

The rules committee has points of emphasis and rule interpretations that are very clear and they publish a video each year showing what should and should not be called. Yet we're still seeing some games in which sticks are held, guys are bear hugged along the boards, and hooking and interference are ignored. That turns what is supposed to be a fast and free-flowing game into mud.
 
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What's your point? That locals should play at the local schools? I think that's an absurd assumption.

"Locals should play at local schools" is not my point.

But get 1 or two would be nice. RIT has been D1 for 13 years. These players are 16 years old, watching RIT hockey growing up and RIT cannot get 1????????
 
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That is what the coaches who recruit get paid to do. Recruit! Everything you stated are the obstacles every coach in competitive college sports has to overcome (exception of no scholarship for some schools).
 
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Lastly, only 1 is going to an Atlantic Hockey rival.
And that is a military academy, so it's not like RIT was out-recruited. If he wants to be in the Army, he wants to be in the Army. ROTC isn't quite the same.

And not for nothing, but none of those kids are playing in the Rochester area now, and probably haven't since they were in the midget program.
 
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That is what the coaches who recruit get paid to do. Recruit! Everything you stated are the obstacles every coach in competitive college sports has to overcome (exception of no scholarship for some schools).

Who says they didn't try? Since only 7 made DI commitments - should he go after some of the ones that aren't committed?
 
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"Locals should play at local schools" is not my point.

But get 1 or two would be nice. RIT has been D1 for 13 years. These players are 16 years old, watching RIT hockey growing up and RIT cannot get 1????????

Only if they are a good fit for your program. Getting a local kid just for the sake of getting a local kid is an idiotic reason to go after him.
 
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Only if they are a good fit for your program. Getting a local kid just for the sake of getting a local kid is an idiotic reason to go after him.

Do you really think I expect RIT or any program to take a player just because he is from their hometown? That is idiotic. Clearly the players from Rochester that are committed to other D1 programs are good enough to play D1 at schools in other leagues. Then they are good enough to play at RIT.
 
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I am not saying they didn't try. If they did then they were out recruited. I agree with the Army/Air Force theory. If they want military there is no persuading them to go eleswhere.
 
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They played midget last year. Some are still playing in Rochester. McDonald is for sure and is going to the other school known for engineering, RPI.
 
What's your point? That locals should play at the local schools? I think that's an absurd assumption.

Particularly considering aside from the one kid going to Army, they're all going to play in better leagues with better competition.

Why would a kid pay to come here, with less exposure to pro scouts and against lesser competition, when he can go to the ECAC or Hockey East and play against sure fire future NHL'ers?
 
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Particularly considering aside from the one kid going to Army, they're all going to play in better leagues with better competition.

Why would a kid pay to come here, with less exposure to pro scouts and against lesser competition, when he can go to the ECAC or Hockey East and play against sure fire future NHL'ers?


Most D1 player have those options. Some RIT notable players, to name a few...Garbowsky, Tanev, Kuquali etc... Had those options as well. why did they come to RIT?

Ask them.

But I do agree with you, I wouldn't. I would take any partial scholarship in any other league.

At some point the cost of school will outweigh the opportunity to play.

But with many players in Rochester that are clearly D1 level players, RIT cannot land 1 of 7, with a home town discount?
 
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I don't know about the others, but Tanev did NOT have options at higher level D1 schools. He was a classic late bloomer who was undersized for much if not all of his juniors career, and relatively speaking he was an overager. This was all pretty common knowledge at the time.

Of course, once the bloodlines were set and his bigger younger brother came along, he chose a Hockey East school (and won a national championship on his way to the Winnipeg Jets).
 
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Do you really think I expect RIT or any program to take a player just because he is from their hometown? That is idiotic. Clearly the players from Rochester that are committed to other D1 programs are good enough to play D1 at schools in other leagues. Then they are good enough to play at RIT.

As are college hockey potential players all over America, Canada, and Europe. So, i no longer have any clue why you even bothered to bring up this asinine subject, because I f----- wasted my time on it.
 
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