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Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

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joecct said:
What did my post have to do with my voting record (or yours) or with the price of gas in Bismark?

Without God, there is no "ultimate judge" other than your conscience. If you have none (amoral) you can do almost anything - if you can get away with it.

That, my dear poster, has no party or race, creed, color,or place of national origin.
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If you’re a sociopath I don’t think the fact that your parents made you go to church when you were a kid will change it. Your ultimate judge only keeps honest people honest.
 
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Obvious story is obvious.

The owners of a religious boarding school that was once raided in Alabama have been arrested in Baldwin County and transported to Texas to face human trafficking charges.
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Kep is right. I happened to find some good people here in a conservative stronghold. Today, a pastor of an affirming church just sat with me and let me talk to her for more than an hour. Didn't pass judgment, didn't try to inject her opinion, just listened.
 
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By the way, Kep:

Right wing Evangelical Jesus wants me dead.

At least with the Episcopalians, I met the Jesus that loves me and wants the best for me.
 
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I love this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Vice President Mike Pence wears his faith like a fluorescent orange vest. But when he visited the border. . .and saw human beings crammed like cordwood in the Texas heat, that faith was invisible." Why people hate religion. Outstanding op-ed! <a href="https://t.co/m92Y1u38zW">https://t.co/m92Y1u38zW</a></p>— Carol Anderson (@ProfCAnderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProfCAnderson/status/1167806913897058305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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I have to admit, my old church did such a number on me that for awhile, they had me convinced I was going to hell for being anything other than a cisgender, heterosexual male. Too many of those places still exist.
 
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Those types of places try to convince you that you are going to hell by being alive. Women go to hell because they are women and lead men to sin.
 
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leswp1 said:
Those types of places try to convince you that you are going to hell by being alive. Women go to hell because they are women and lead men to sin.
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From my book:

"I tried to shake this off and keep moving, but July 2017, a few more people decided to get bitter and nasty. Victoria, a woman who I called my adopted mother at one time, told me at dinner that I was confused, that I was every bit of a man, and that I should be happy with the way God made me. I went home feeling hurt and upset, but tried to move on nonetheless. A few days later, with my world going to hell in a very large handbasket, I received a text message from my Aunt Sandy, and I got an earful. I was told I was sinning, that I shouldn’t dare have sex with a man, and that I needed to find God. She also hated the fact I vote with liberals and for liberal causes. This long as **** text message ends with her telling me the only family she has are her kids and grandkids. I was working second shift at Tyson at the time, and on this one Thursday, no one else was around. I was devastated; she and I had a great relationship up to this point, but apparently, she devolved into a nasty human being. Upon receiving this message, I put the phone down, and wanted to cry. But I was at work, and there was nothing I could do but finish my break and go back to the production floor.

As July dragged into August, I knew if I wasn’t done with Christians before, after that, I was done now. God clearly didn’t love me, and all the stuff I heard about God executing the LGBT community from on high must be true. As summer became fall, I was convinced I was going to hell for being anything other than a cisgender, heterosexual male. I sat on that fact, and it was awhile before anyone could change my mind or even attempt to. October 2017, the notion of genderfluid went away and was replaced with 100% Amber Marie. And I needed a place to go, but I was stuck on second shift. But in November that year, something broke and I got on first shift at Tyson. The week of Thanksgiving, I started on first and it was an adjustment, but I needed it. That Tuesday, I walked into Out On The Lakeshore, Holland’s LGBTQ+ resource center. I walked in with full apprehension, knowing this was my first time there and I needed social support. I spoke with Robbie and Brother Francis that night, two Episcopalians. Robbie was from Grace Episcopal, and Francis was from All Saints in Douglas. That night, for two hours, I was told about a God that loved me and wanted the best for me. I was told about a denomination that welcomed me and wanted me to be a part of their family. When I left at 7 PM, my heart had been opened a little bit to attending church again and maybe believing in God again. Two weeks later, I met Jen Adams, the rector at Grace Episcopal. I told my story to Jen, and she listened to me in a way that no other clergy listened to me before. Francis was there too, and he told Jen he didn’t think I was ready to go back to church or start believing in God again. However, at the end of the night, we hugged tight, and I knew there was a definite possibility of me attending church again
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today in chapel, we confessed to plants. Together, we held our grief, joy, regret, hope, guilt and sorrow in prayer; offering them to the beings who sustain us but whose gift we too often fail to honor.<br><br>What do you confess to the plants in your life? <a href="https://t.co/tEs3Vm8oU4">pic.twitter.com/tEs3Vm8oU4</a></p>— Union Seminary (@UnionSeminary) <a href="https://twitter.com/UnionSeminary/status/1174000941667880960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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They're exhaling CO2. The plants love it.

In any case, at least what they're confessing to exists...
 
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