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Religion Thread: ...and suddenly, everyone's a theology scholar

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Where would you put ELCA? Further to the upper right? Every ELCA member I know gets progressively more thumper-like every year.
 
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The circle for Orthodox Jew looks about right. Conservative is lumped in with it, which I don't agree with. Probably done so a circle could be put on the graph. The conservative movement in Judaism in America is moving more and more South on this graph. They'll never get to the reform/reconstructionist area, but they differ from orthodoxy in quite a few ways.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Where would you put ELCA? Further to the upper right? Every ELCA member I know gets progressively more thumper-like every year.
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Really? My church, my Auntie's and the big one in Worcester are all 'welcoming churches'- very liberal- Out Gay Pastor, openly same sex couples on Council for the latter 2, active outreach to the LBGTQ communities, very active in social justice stuff. March on the Pride marches as a church group, etc
 
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Am I thinking of the wrong flavor? It might be. I could have sworn my aunt and uncle are ELCA members. They are very conservative and voted trump. Very evangelical.
 
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They might be Missouri Synod or WELS.

Alternatively, it's plausible that there could be conservative ELCA parishes, especially here in the Midwest. When I attended Catholic church as a kid, we knew there were differences among local parishes where one pastor was more liberal and emphasized social justice in his homilies, while another was more conservative and focused on sin and immorality.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
They might be Missouri Synod or WELS.

Alternatively, it's plausible that there could be conservative ELCA parishes, especially here in the Midwest. When I attended Catholic church as a kid, we knew there were differences among local parishes where one pastor was more liberal and emphasized social justice in his homilies, while another was more conservative and focused on sin and immorality.
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My girlfriend works for a local Catholic parish, and has worked for a few others as well. She'll talk about different parishes, and where Father isn't the kind of guy she'd want to listen to each week. And she knows many, if not most, of them personally. Also, if the priest is in his 70s, she said they're more likely to be a liberal priest than any other generation. Which makes sense, if you think about the era in which those priests were raised.
 
I decided to forgive my aunt. Yeah, she did say mean and hurtful things, but there is something about being the bigger person....
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
Or to put it another way:

Forgiving you means I no longer dwell on the fact you're an a-hole. It doesn't mean I no longer think you're an a-hole.
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A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.

The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.

Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his 
journey.

The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.

Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out “As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?”

The older monk looked at him and replied, “Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?”
 
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Nice.

The lawyers had asked the US Supreme Court and the Georgia Supreme Court on Saturday to stay the execution, saying that one of the jurors in Tharpe's sentencing later admitted that his decision was influenced by Tharpe's race. The juror, Barney Gattie, was interviewed by lawyers from the Georgia Resource Center in 1998 as part of Tharpe's post-conviction appeals process, according to petition.

During the interview, Gattie, who was white, told attorneys that he favored the death penalty because Tharpe was a “n-gger” who had killed someone whom Gattie considered to be “‘good’ black folk.” Gattie also told lawyers that his Bible study had led him to “wonder if black people even have souls.”
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