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Religion: Catholics, Episcopalians, Atheists, All Are Welcome!

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Kepler said:
Like the denominational splits over slavery.

There are two kinds of people:

Conservatives change their ideals to hold on to their rituals. Liberals change their rituals to hold on to their ideals.
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Well, time will tell. While not in the RCA, I have a few friends in there and they're keeping me updated.
 
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Growing up in the Reformed church, we frowned on tongues. And I don't think anyone in the Episcopal church knows what tongues are either.
 
MissThundercat said:
Growing up in the Reformed church, we frowned on tongues. And I don't think anyone in the Episcopal church knows what tongues are either.
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At my wife's grandfather's funeral service (protestant), my mother in law started wailing in tongues for many minutes. After a few I grabbed my infant son and got out of there.

I may not believe in it, but I've seen it done.
 
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joecct said:
At my wife's grandfather's funeral service (protestant), my mother in law started wailing in tongues for many minutes. After a few I grabbed my infant son and got out of there.

I may not believe in it, but I've seen it done.
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Well, there's nothing to "believe" in. It's a verifiable mental state. It's letting go of the rational portion of the self. It's easy to see how that kind of circuit breaker would be valuable in a situation of extreme grief or ecstasy to prevent real damage, a psychotic break, etc.

If you believe it's a phone line to God, well, there's nobody home so yeah that part is obvious bunk. But glossolalia is way, way more interesting than theology. It's a glimpse at our pre-linguistic, pre-cognitive animal hardware. It's time travel back to before we had a mind to mediate our experience and emotions. It's what we are underneath all the "meaning" we've made up, which explains why it isn't pretty.

Except of course this guy is just a distracted, low energy con artist checking his bank account.
 
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I know in some churches, tongues is a definite thing. And miraculously, someone is always there to interpret.

I'll stick with the liturgy at my church, thank you much.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I like snake handling.
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Hey, there was a snake handler church within 20 miles of where I lived in MD (across the border in WV. Of course.). Also a KKK outpost. Also these fun folks.

This is why I get amused when people talk about "the effete coasts." :rolleyes: :p
 
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My mom noted today that one of the ex-priests Michigan's AG is prosecuting for sex crimes, is the son of a couple of her late parents' friends. Fortunately for them, neither lived to see this.
 
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Still awaiting word from Penn State’s locker room.
 
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Elections have consequences.

Francis has now appointed more than half of the 128 cardinal electors, increasing the possibility that the next pope will continue his progressive policies.

Over six years he has appointed more cardinal electors than those still alive who were named by former Pope Benedict and the late Pope John Paul combined.
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Kepler said:
Elections have consequences.
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Except, if you read the resignation, B16 resigned the position of Bishop of Rome and not the Papacy. JP2 split the 2.

Putting on my solovsfett hat, the St. Galen Mafia jumped in with both feet and, through the Secretary of State, announced that B16 had resigned. Not quite.

If he had quit it all, B16 would have gone back to Joseph Ratzinger, but he kept the title of B16. Benedict, an accomplished canon lawyer, knew exactly what he had done. Effectively he created a Head of Government (Francis) and Head of State (Benedict).

Do we have an anti-pope? I don't think so. What we Catholics have is Mass confusion under Francis. But, with Francis being a Jesuit, I expected no different.

My next papabile is ++Robert Sarah.
 
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joecct said:
If he had quit it all, B16 would have gone back to Joseph Ratzinger, but he kept the title of B16. Benedict, an accomplished canon lawyer, knew exactly what he had done. Effectively he created a Head of Government (Francis) and Head of State (Benedict).
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Whatever lets you call yourself a Catholic while opposing the Pope. I believe there is a more technical term for that.

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BTW, if your theory is correct then when Benedict dies will the College of Cardinals meet and choose a new "head of state," or you will just name your own based on your ideology, creating a Shia/Sunni Catholic split?
 
Kepler said:
Whatever lets you call yourself a Catholic while opposing the Pope. I believe there is a more technical term for that.

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BTW, if your theory is correct then when Benedict dies will the College of Cardinals meet and choose a new "head of state," or you will just name your own based on your ideology, creating a Shia/Sunni Catholic split?
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Francis, I believe, is far out there in matters of faith and morals. But he is a Jesuit which explains all.
 
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