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Regional Syndication

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Same thread every year about how awful ESPN is and how they're screwing you out of seeing College Hockey...It's so predictable and tiresome...Get out of the bubble you live in and be realistic about the situation...It's about business. If it was good business for ESPN to air all the games live and have it take over ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU, they would, but it's not. If you want me to go back to last year's thread and pull the ratings, I will. That should pretty much settle the argument.

The regionals are exactly where they should be, ESPNU (which by the way, is in over 70 million homes now) That said, coverage has taken a step back from where it was last year...The regionals got some play on ESPN and ESPN2 last year, of which, it appears there is none this year.

For a network that has ZERO NHL coverage, I think this is a pretty good deal for College Hockey fans...If ESPN didn't do the games, who else would distribute them on a National Level? Everyone is always so quick to condemn, but not come up with a single viable alternative to the current system...
 
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I thought the championship game got around a .6 cable rating....I don't remember what that translates into viewers anymore though.

No idea what the regional games ratings were, that would be interesting. It'd also be interesting to know what the conference tournament ratings were.

I'd think ESPN would want to sell the rights for the games to those that would want them(FS North, FS Detroit, NESN, Altitude, and so forth) so they wouldn't have to bother putting them on their own channel and could air something else.

All games are in HD this year correct? It'd be interesting to find out how much ESPN loses on the productions.
 
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And someone always brings up FOX. FOX Sports Net is no longer on in New England so unless someone can convince Comcast to pick it up its a non-starter to me...
 
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Went Back to find a few of last year's posts and ratings samples from the Friday and Saturday on ESPN2...

The Championship Game rating changed slightly because the first the .634 is the overnight...The .67 is the Final official number.

Also notice the number of homes ESPNU reaches is almost 3x higher than it was last year at this time, mostly because of the Comcast deal...


Sect8RowESeat15 said:
Looked into it...Highest rated Championship Game since 2002. Came in at a .67, but peaked at a .88 (Little over 1 million households) at 9:45pm.
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Sect8RowESeat15 said:
Championship Game Rating - .634
NASCAR Nationwide Race before it at 4pm - 1.22
11pm Sportscenter after the game - .697
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Sect8RowESeat15 said:
Hey Guys--

I know you wanted the Saturday ESPN2 ratings...Here they are.

11am - College Basketball Scoreboard Show - .243
Noon - Lacrosse - Maryland/Virginia .230
3:21pm - UNH/No Dak (Joined in Progress) - .247
5:06pm - SportscenterU - . 200
5:55pm - Ohio State/BU - .163
8:27pm - NHRA Qualifying - .261
9pm - US/El Salvador Soccer - .416
11:30 - NCAA women's B-ball - Ohio State/Stanford - .411

FYI, ratings aren't done for ESPNU since it's only in 26 million homes or so.

Lowest rating of the day from noon to midnight was BU/Ohio St...Not surprising considering it was a blowout...Tough to hold an audience at that point.
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Sect8RowESeat15 said:
Before I say anything, just so you know, I'm on your side...Do I think it's absurd ESPN would rather show D-II women's basketball, tractor pulls and World's Strongest Man competitions from 8 years ago rather than the NCAA Hockey Regionals...Absolutely. But it's easy to understand why their position is what it is...The ratings are in for ESPN2 from Friday...

OTL 4PM .133
Baseball Tonight 4:30pm .084
NASCAR NOW 5pm .104
Denver/Miami (OH) 5:30pm .091
Minn St/Franklin Pearce Women's Hoops 8:10pm .154
Friday Night Fights 10pm .514

Also, for comparison, the 4am edition of the 2008 World Series of Poker from the very same day did a .186 (Twice the audience of Denver/Miami)

For all those saying the wishing someone else (Like CBS-CSTV) would show the regionals...They have ONE outlet for showing games...What happens when on the middle Saturday when 6 games are going on and games are overlapping everywhere and you can't see ANYTHING. You'll be wishing a 7OT lacrosse game was what you were dealing with. When the lacrosse game wiped out the 1st period of UNH/No Dak I saw some arguments saying "Just start the game on ESPNNEWS or something" If the games aren't on ESPN, then what? What other networks out there would be willing to show 12 college hockey games in 3 days and have the resources and budget to do so. The simple answer is zero.
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AFAIK these games WILL be regionally syndicated -- they're not going to be relegated strictly to ESPN360 and tape delay on ESPNU. You're not going to know the full list of affiliates maybe for a few days but the NCAA used to list them as they were known on their website.

This is how it used to be for many years -- ESPN changed it last year because ESPN2 picked up the "conflicting" regional time slot games. That's not the case this year, there's nothing on ESPN2, hence they're making these games available on a regional basis again.

Now, which outlets pick up the games -- who knows. The last time this happened, ESPN seemed to go out of their way to avoid allowing regional Fox networks to broadcast them -- MSG had some, Cox, Altitude, etc. We'll just have to see.
 
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In case anyone is wondering:

Frozen Four telecasts will feature Gary Thorne (play-by-play), Barry Melrose (analyst), Clay Matvick (ice-level reporter) calling all the action from Detroit. At regional semifinals and finals, commentators include play-by-play announcer John Buccigross and analyst Barry Melrose (NHL) at the East Regional in Albany, N.Y.; Matvick and Jim Paradise (Colorado College) at the West Regional in Saint Paul, Minn.; Dan Parkhurst and Damian DiGiulian (Hamilton College) at the Northeast Regional in Worcester, Mass.; and Ben Holden and Ritchlin (Michigan) at the Midwest Regional in Fort Wayne, Ind. Also during coverage of the regional rounds, the ESPNU studio will be anchored by Lowell Galindo and Bob Norton (Rutgers).
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I like the duo at the Mid-west, they worked together for years before Holden left for Cleveland to call pro games. They don't walk all over each other like some. They don't play favorites even though Sean won two Nat. Championships at Mich.
 
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Sect8RowESeat15 said:
Went Back to find a few of last year's posts and ratings samples from the Friday and Saturday on ESPN2...

The Championship Game rating changed slightly because the first the .634 is the overnight...The .67 is the Final official number.

Also notice the number of homes ESPNU reaches is almost 3x higher than it was last year at this time, mostly because of the Comcast deal...
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Odd that the overnight was lower than the final rating. The reverse is usually true with the Nielson ratings. In numbers for this season that rating would translate into about 770,000 homes, probably slightly lower last season since households with TVs increase yearly.

The fact is this is a tiny, tiny number. The XFL was laughed off TV and cancelled (deservedly so for a number of reasons) even though it received average ratings that were higher than last year's NCAA hockey finale on its TV telecasts on TNN and the defunct UPN network. It's finale received a 2.8 rating, which in 2001 equaled 2.9 MILLION homes and now would be well over 3 million. Yeah, I know there's no accounting for taste.
 
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Is there a difference between ESPNU and ESPNU HD or will they both broadcast if HD is listed? Last week there were different games showing on NESN and NESN HD in Boston; one carrying the BC Basketball game and the other carrying a Red Sox game.
 
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BC/HE said:
Is there a difference between ESPNU and ESPNU HD or will they both broadcast if HD is listed? Last week there were different games showing on NESN and NESN HD in Boston; one carrying the BC Basketball game and the other carrying a Red Sox game.
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NESN usually adds an "alternate feed" at this time of year when they have conflicts, so because had two things to show there, they sent the Sox game to the SD channel and the BC game to the HD one, just to split up the programming.

There's no difference in terms of programming when it says ESPNU/ESPNU HD except how the game is being shown. If it's straight "ESPNU" I'm guessing that means the game is being produced only in standard-definition, while ESPNU-HD naturally means it's a high-def produced broadcast. Same programming no matter what the format is on the channel though.
 
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Now NCAA.com lists the games sole TV provider as ESPN360.com, when Sunday they said ESPN360.com/Regional Synd.

That is not a good thing.
 
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If they truly end up putting these games strictly on ESPN360.com, which a lot of people don't have access to -- shame on them. The only reason I can think that will happen is that ESPN is holding the rights for ransom and a lot of local stations won't be interested in paying them.

The actual NCAA broadcast page still lists them as ESPN Syndication/ESPN360, but if no station in Alaska is picking up their game against BC, you have to wonder what that means for everyone else.
 
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In 2007 they had every game on tv where I live. Most of the games were on the comcast network channel 3
 
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I emailed the NCAAs and there WILL be some local outlets picking up the games. Here's the email I received back --

"We should have the confirmed ESPN Syndication information for what outlets are carrying the Regional rounds of the 2010 NCAA Division I Men's Ice Hockey Championship later today. Once those clearances have been confirmed, they will be posted on the following web site:

www.NCAA.com/broadcast

Please check in to this site towards the end of today and the information should hopefully be posted by then. If not, it should be posted by tomorrow morning."
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
I emailed the NCAAs and there WILL be some local outlets picking up the games. Here's the email I received back --

"We should have the confirmed ESPN Syndication information for what outlets are carrying the Regional rounds of the 2010 NCAA Division I Men's Ice Hockey Championship later today. Once those clearances have been confirmed, they will be posted on the following web site:

www.NCAA.com/broadcast

Please check in to this site towards the end of today and the information should hopefully be posted by then. If not, it should be posted by tomorrow morning."
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Thanx for the info!! Looks like Worcester and Fort Wayne will NOT be in HD, whereas the other 2 regions will be.
 
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