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Regional Rankings - Part III

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That can still change if Plattsburgh beats #6 ranked Geneseo while Williams sits at home. As usual, the spreadsheet isn't available so we'll have to guess what the comparison would look like. The stunner to me is Endicott ranked at #10...

If Plattsburgh beats Genny, it becomes a moot point as far as Pool C goes. If Platty were to lose to Genny, this could be quite significant...
 
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If Plattsburgh beats Genny, it becomes a moot point as far as Pool C goes. If Platty were to lose to Genny, this could be quite significant...

I wasn't thinking of Pool C actually. I was thinking of seeding. You're right, though. I really wanted to see the numbers to see why Williams is still ahead. That pesky head-to-head is still out there too.
 
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I wasn't thinking of Pool C actually. I was thinking of seeding. You're right, though. I really wanted to see the numbers to see why Williams is still ahead. That pesky head-to-head is still out there too.

A Platty/Williams/Stevens Point comparison would be interesting to take a look at.
 
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If only we could....:mad:

Wrote down a few before it was taken down...

1) Results vs. Ranked; 2) SOS; 3) Overall Win %

Hobart - 0.643; 0.542; 0.808
Williams - 0.600; 0.531; 0.760
Plattsburgh - 0.500; 0.520; 0.827
Trinity - 0.375; 0.523; 0.780
Babson - 0.667; 0.505; 0.759
Geneseo - 0.556; 0.533; 0.741
 
Re: Regional Rankings - Part III

Wrote down a few before it was taken down...

1) Results vs. Ranked; 2) SOS; 3) Overall Win %

Hobart - 0.643; 0.542; 0.808
Williams - 0.600; 0.531; 0.760
Plattsburgh - 0.500; 0.520; 0.827
Trinity - 0.375; 0.523; 0.780
Babson - 0.667; 0.505; 0.759
Geneseo - 0.556; 0.533; 0.741

And the West sheet is up so Stevens Point is

0.375 - 0.531 - 0.778
 
Re: Regional Rankings - Part III

Can somebody who understands this better than me help me understand if Geneseo has a prayer of getting a Pool C if they lose to Plattsburgh and assuming conference favorites mostly take care of business?
 
Re: Regional Rankings - Part III

Can somebody who understands this better than me help me understand if Geneseo has a prayer of getting a Pool C if they lose to Plattsburgh and assuming conference favorites mostly take care of business?

Assuming St. Norbert/Adrian loser is Pool C #1 and that Plattsburgh, Trinity, and Babson all win their conferences?

Pool C would be Williams v. Stevens Point and from what I see below, Williams would be Pool C #2. Then it would be Geneseo v. Stevens Point for Pool C #3. That comparison looks like a coin flip to me. I would say in this quickly sketched scenario, Geneseo would have a prayer...
 
Re: Regional Rankings - Part III

That can still change if Plattsburgh beats #6 ranked Geneseo while Williams sits at home. As usual, the spreadsheet isn't available so we'll have to guess what the comparison would look like. The stunner to me is Endicott ranked at #10...

Beyond stunning; I thought it was a typo. 14-7-1 with a #45 SOS?

What could possibly be the committee's rationale..? I want what they're smoking!
 
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If Plattsburgh beats Genny, it becomes a moot point as far as Pool C goes. If Platty were to lose to Genny, this could be quite significant...

Genny beat Williams who beat Plattsburgh.

Williams fans wearing Red on Saturday.
 
Wrote down a few before it was taken down...

1) Results vs. Ranked; 2) SOS; 3) Overall Win %

Hobart - 0.643; 0.542; 0.808
Williams - 0.600; 0.531; 0.760
Plattsburgh - 0.500; 0.520; 0.827
Trinity - 0.375; 0.523; 0.780
Babson - 0.667; 0.505; 0.759
Geneseo - 0.556; 0.533; 0.741

So Plattsburgh continues to lose all but WIN to Williams, including COP. A loss to Geneseo would hurt both RNK and COP in addition to WIN. At this point, I think Pool C #3 would come down to Plattsburgh vs Stevens Point, and because Plattsburgh would take hits to both WIN and RNK, I think they lose that comparison. I've said since the moment Williams lost, it's now officially SUNYAC or bust.
 
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They have a 1.00% RnK...yup that's about it lol

Kinda goes to what the RNK "metric" is worth. That should be s***-canned; it's only apparent reason for existence is to allow the committee to massage the numbers at will, and without any accountability.
 
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So Plattsburgh continues to lose all but WIN to Williams, including COP. A loss to Geneseo would hurt both RNK and COP in addition to WIN. At this point, I think Pool C #3 would come down to Plattsburgh vs Stevens Point, and because Plattsburgh would take hits to both WIN and RNK, I think they lose that comparison. I've said since the moment Williams lost, it's now officially SUNYAC or bust.

Correct. But its a double edged sword. If Plattsburgh is to win Saturday, that should propel them into the #2 East. One other thing I was tossing around in my head as I was driving, this is the LAST public NCAA Ranking. While I know certain people are not allowed to say, (and just to toss a little fuel on the fire) is Endicott a cover for who they will toss in that #10 spot to propel or drop a team? I thought last weeks Top 10 was pretty accurate, does adding Endicott just leave the door open a smidgen when it comes time for selection time? We have a lot of close teams in the East who could move up/down based on one team being in/out of the final "behind closed door" poll.
 
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Kinda goes to what the RNK "metric" is worth. That should be s***-canned; it's only apparent reason for existence is to allow the committee to massage the numbers at will, and without any accountability.

With all due respect, we've also proven how much the SOS metric is worth and how it is used (in certain leagues) to help elevate overall SOS. For the most part SOS has always been the final straw when all other criteria are close (more rightfully so). Who's better, a team that has a RNK of 1-0-0 or a team who has a RNK of 6-1-0? By the numbers yes, but (normally) a team who's played 7 RNK'd teams will have a stronger SOS.
 
Correct. But its a double edged sword. If Plattsburgh is to win Saturday, that should propel them into the #2 East. One other thing I was tossing around in my head as I was driving, this is the LAST public NCAA Ranking. While I know certain people are not allowed to say, (and just to toss a little fuel on the fire) is Endicott a cover for who they will toss in that #10 spot to propel or drop a team? I thought last weeks Top 10 was pretty accurate, does adding Endicott just leave the door open a smidgen when it comes time for selection time? We have a lot of close teams in the East who could move up/down based on one team being in/out of the final "behind closed door" poll.

Imagine Plattsburgh's RNK if they squeeze Oswego in at #10 ;)
 
Re: Regional Rankings - Part III

Wrote down a few before it was taken down...

1) Results vs. Ranked; 2) SOS; 3) Overall Win %

Hobart - 0.643; 0.542; 0.808
Williams - 0.600; 0.531; 0.760
Plattsburgh - 0.500; 0.520; 0.827
Trinity - 0.375; 0.523; 0.780
Babson - 0.667; 0.505; 0.759
Geneseo - 0.556; 0.533; 0.741

Isn't Babson .500 vs Ranked?

Wins vs UMB and Hobart
Losses vs UMB and Endicott

Or am I missing something?
 
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