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Providence College Summer 2011: The Hockey Guy Adventures

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theprofromdover said:
Gee, maybe they'll have to close the whole school down without your endowment.
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Not the WHOLE school, but then again, I'm not a "pro"....If YOU stopped giving, Wow! would THAT make a difference.

Hockeyman, I can't believe that anyone thinks that because Bennett went to PC, like the dreaded TIM ARMY did, they must be the same guy, and coach the same. Totally different personalities. I heard Ron Wilson wanted the job.....Wait isn't he from East Providence like YOU KNOW WHO??? No thanks, I guess. Crazy.
 
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What is the salary range for the head coaching job? Is it in line with HE average? Just curious.
 
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Rumor has it, and take it for what its worth. David Quinn was offered 2.5 million over 5 years.
 
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cavbim said:
Rumor mill of the day says Cavanaugh did not make a good impression on the team when he met them. Now I don't want the inmates running the Asylum but hopefully that finishes him off.

Leaman dispite his protests to the contrary is due in tomorrow so stay tune.

Devin supposedly has landed a head coaching job in prep.

Hopefully the fact that Leaman is last is a good sign. If not him I tend to agree with Southie. What Timmy did has no bearing on how Bennett will handle the job. Possibly Army was not cut out to deal with college age players. He was away from it for 10 years....Bennett has lived it continuously for the past 11. Possibly Army's judgement all along was clouded by his desire to coach Derek and his buddies. Certainly there is no comparision between the two as players Timmy was a finesse player, Bennett arrived at his All American status through a blue collar work ethic, which should be evident in the style of player they would put on the ice.

It is pointed that Bennett has no head coaching experience. Quinn only has 2 years. Using the same logic you don't want to follow up a PC guy with another then why do we want to follow up an AHL guy with one who only has head coached in the AHL. As Southie said you need to judge each candidate on their own. If you want to complain about hiring a PC guy just remember Lou was a PC guy and in the end he did well.

As to the earlier question I am concerned about a coach getting off to a good start and then taking off for greener pastures. The rebuilding job at PC will be a long term deal. Remember you at best saw the first sign of life at Merrimack in the 5th year of their change and real tangible gains only this year. If they do make the rumored upgrades it suppoedly is suppoe to be something like a 5 year plan. Whoever you get you better pin down
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Great post.....

Can you imagine BU or BC saying, "we don't want to hire a former BC/BU guy"?

Any of the final 3 would be a great coach and would add instant credibility and a new sense of energy. Quinn, Cavanaugh and Leaman are quality coaches and people. Cavanaugh has a more low key personality but I am sure the players have respect for what he has accomplished. Just a shame Bennett was not part of the process. He is one of the good guys and we can only hope he gets the Lowell job and has success.
 
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J.D. said:
$500,000 per? That seems a little high, no?
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I think at 500K you are at the top of HE money...hard for me to imagine PC putting up that kind of money. If they do I believe the 200 or so faithful season ticket holders will not like the ticket price increase headed their way.
 
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I don't for a second believe that the only reason Bennett wasn't brought in here was because he was a PC grad. If that's the case, shame on them, but IMO that's not what actually happened. Some of you are all fired up about one sentence in a Projo blurb...I think you are missing the larger point that Bennett just isn't "wiping the slate clean" and didn't have the overall experience they were looking for. IMO that's ultimately why PC didn't go in his direction.

Hockeyman, I can't believe that anyone thinks that because Bennett went to PC, like the dreaded TIM ARMY did, they must be the same guy, and coach the same.
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Neither can I. That wasn't my point. Since a couple of you deduced that from my post, let me try again:

I never said Bennett was going to coach like Army or BE Tim Army. I never said he played hockey like Tim Army either. My point is that ON PAPER he had some of the same GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS or was connected in some way with the last two coaching hires here. No head coaching experience? Check. Former assistant coach at PC before? Check. Ex PC alum? Check. A few of those similarities might seem trivial, sure, but put all of those things together, and no, I don't think they wanted to go in that general direction.

Fact remains they just had an ex PC player as a coach, who was a failure, and Bennett is not only an ex PC player but he was also an assistant for 5 years under the other recent coach whose tenure here was, ultimately, unsuccessful.

If you want to start FRESH Bennett is not the definition of a fresh start, and a fresh start is clearly the direction PC is going in. That's what I was trying to say.

That doesn't mean Rick Bennett is the same guy, same type of player, same type of coach as Army or Pooley....I didn't write that, and I certainly didn't mean to imply that....but the bottom line is that he's just not a clean break with the past, which is what the school wants right now. After the last 2 coaching regimes, who could blame them for wanting to go in a different direction?
 
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I have to believe that it's Quinn's job if he wants it.
 
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I do not think Quinn will reply until his season is over in Cleveland, it would not be fair to his team.....so a long wait could mean Quinn
 
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At this point I just want them to make their decision soon. I definitely agree with you JD that it is Quinn's job to take. He was there today and made a great impression and from what I heard the ball is in his court.
 
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$500K /yr??????

Not unless they have suddenly gotten more money out of theprofromdover!

Tim Army made LESS than $200K in his first year. That would be a huge increase. I would be shocked, I say..

But stranger things. I guess all the Driscoll haters on this board can stop saying he doesn't care about hockey.
 
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satyking said:
I do not think Quinn will reply until his season is over in Cleveland, it would not be fair to his team.....so a long wait could mean Quinn
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Agree with you satyking. If it's Cavanagh or Leaman we'll know sooner than later. If this drags on, it's got to be Quinn one would imagine.
 
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The $$$$ sound crazy given the dead-money the Bb program has rung up. I never considered Leaman a serious candidate and the projo likely tossed his name out there as a certain interviewee.
 
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And the longer it goes the more jobs that appear in college and the NHL where real big money waits the right guy......very interesting development, I would love to be on the inside just watching and I am glad I am not the guy doing the hiring
 
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cavbim said:
Rumor mill of the day says Cavanaugh did not make a good impression on the team when he met them. Now I don't want the inmates running the Asylum but hopefully that finishes him off.

Leaman dispite his protests to the contrary is due in tomorrow so stay tune.

Devin supposedly has landed a head coaching job in prep.

Hopefully the fact that Leaman is last is a good sign. If not him I tend to agree with Southie. What Timmy did has no bearing on how Bennett will handle the job. Possibly Army was not cut out to deal with college age players. He was away from it for 10 years....Bennett has lived it continuously for the past 11. Possibly Army's judgement all along was clouded by his desire to coach Derek and his buddies. Certainly there is no comparision between the two as players Timmy was a finesse player, Bennett arrived at his All American status through a blue collar work ethic, which should be evident in the style of player they would put on the ice.

It is pointed that Bennett has no head coaching experience. Quinn only has 2 years. Using the same logic you don't want to follow up a PC guy with another then why do we want to follow up an AHL guy with one who only has head coached in the AHL. As Southie said you need to judge each candidate on their own. If you want to complain about hiring a PC guy just remember Lou was a PC guy and in the end he did well.

As to the earlier question I am concerned about a coach getting off to a good start and then taking off for greener pastures. The rebuilding job at PC will be a long term deal. Remember you at best saw the first sign of life at Merrimack in the 5th year of their change and real tangible gains only this year. If they do make the rumored upgrades it suppoedly is suppoe to be something like a 5 year plan. Whoever you get you better pin down
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Interesting the players didn't take to Cav, if in fact it is true. He has been known to be a players coach.

When thinking about Bennett, think of all the programs who have hired alums just because they were alums and then saw their teams fail. College hockey's problem is that coaches do not get rewarded for their success, as many great coaches get turned down for jobs due to political reasons. Giving the job to an alum is the easy way to go. I commend Driscoll for taking the road less traveled and finding the best candidate. I mean really, what has Bennett accomplished as a coach? He is probably a great guy, but so aren't we all. How many of his teams have won an NCAA game? How many of his recruits have gone on to successful NHL careers? Granted I am a BC follower and am biased toward Cav, but Bennett is far from a proven coach. Driscoll is doing the right thing and should be praised. Too many programs go the easy route and turn down better candidates for alums.
 
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Giving the job to an alum is the easy way to go. I commend Driscoll for taking the road less traveled and finding the best candidate. I mean really, what has Bennett accomplished as a coach? He is probably a great guy, but so aren't we all. How many of his teams have won an NCAA game? How many of his recruits have gone on to successful NHL careers? Granted I am a BC follower and am biased toward Cav, but Bennett is far from a proven coach.
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Exactly right. IMO you can't underestimate PC's desire for a fresh start. Bennett having been here as part of Pooley's staff does not provide that, in addition to the experience angle, which ought to be Priority #1 in hiring this time around.
 
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I find it hard to believe that Cav made a bad impression with the players...

I lean toward Cav because of his recent college experience but that can be changed depending on the assistants Quinn brings in and their connections for recruiting. I see these two as 1 and 1a, either one can really bring Friar hockey back to the glory days and maybe even beyond.
 
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If the AD is indeed looking for a fresh start, I happen to think both Quinn and Cav would be great choices. Good luck to you guys.
 
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It's strange about the players not taking to Cav. The way they played this past season I wasn't too taken with them either.

Maybe less attitude and more production from the fellas and we'll start to care what the players think. Can't believe that some of them are on scholarships????
 
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