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Providence - 2009-10 In-season Thread

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That was as non-competitive a 3-1 game I've seen in a while. BC basically skated circles around PC. BTW do the Friars even have a gameplan? I remember the good o'l days of dump and suck and its predictability. This team doesn't even seem to have a strategy of any kind -- though I laughed outloud when Army couldn't work his DVR in one of the intermissions. I mean, how crazy would it be to just TALK to your players instead of rolling out the highlight reel? :rolleyes:

Once again reality has struck, and those big-time October wins have blown away as quickly as the leaves. I agree this program has hit rock bottom, and it's going to be a major struggle for PC to make the playoffs this year. Even Mike Logan and Bellemore said that on the Cox broadcast last night. They come out of the gate in January and lose a few more and you're looking at a 2-8, 2-9 mark -- with the rest of the conference beating up on each other it's going to be very difficult for this team to get out of the hole they've dug themselves in.

I don't think I would ever see the day when PC not only failed to make the HE Quarterfinals, but would do so in back-to-back seasons. And the equally ****ing part is that we didn't even have to wait for another stretch of patented Army end-of-season losing hockey. 5 straight losses, 1 win in their last 8 games -- this whole scene continues to be pathetic.

Please, sign this area clown up for another contract extension before another program steals him away. It's just madness and inexplicable and outrageous how bad things have gotten, and they're stuck with him for another, what, 4 seasons? The guy should resign, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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steven22 said:
PC spent almost the entire game chasing the BC players around the ice. BC had no problem getting around the PC defense and controlling the game. Does anyone know why Army called a time out with 1:05 left in the 2nd period?!? Army spent the 3rd period just standing behind the bench with no hint of coaching the team. With almost 30 years of watching this program , I think it is as close to the rock bottom as you can get.
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That timeout was actually an excellent call by Coach Army! BC had consentrated puck possession in the PC zone for almost two and a half minutes getting many high quality scoring chances. BC has changed their forwards twice during that stretch. PC five were spent and iced the puck. That icing required all PC players to stay on the ice while BC would have put yet another set of fresh faces on the ice. The time out allowed the 5 PC players a chance to recoup before next draw. PC was able to clear the zone and make the necessary change for fresh legs.:)

Best to all PC fans going forward...BC struggled in similar fashion last season and was able to mount last season rally coming up just short. The PC club lost to a pretty hot BC club last night if that means anything. I for one liked the grit I saw from the PC kids but they played like they did not have any answers for what BC was presenting to them defensively. But for a fluck airborne bounce of the puck that came down behind Muse...
 
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The team is in last place with zero hope of getting out of it. I'm not sure how much more "rock bottom" this could get.

Unless they do what we've been worrying about the past 3 years and just eliminate hockey.
 
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Watching PC in the locker room between periods has always driven me crazy. It seems so useless and counterproductive not to talk directly to the team, but to have your back to them watching a TV screen as Army does. Between his behind the bench style and between period antics, it's a wonder he can recruit anyone to play for him Just compare him to some of the great coaches in HE. PC will not improve until he goes.
 
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BCHF said:
That timeout was actually an excellent call by Coach Army! BC had consentrated puck possession in the PC zone for almost two and a half minutes getting many high quality scoring chances.
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That makes sense. With the way BC was controlling the puck possession, Army needed about 5 more time outs!!

BC is the fastest team that I have seen so far this year. The forwards can fly into the offense zone and the D are also fast clearing the puck. My bet is if they keep up that pace they will win Hockey East this year. The Eagles were a fun team to watch last night. PC not so much fun :(
 
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satyking said:
They were flat all game.....totally unprepared for BC....PC did out shoot them but lost faceoffs 21-13 out hit 8 - 4 and were totally out played by BC.....if this team gets 2 points total the rest of the year it will be a suprise......at least they can't go any lower in HE.......now Hockeydad put some spin on this mess.....no preparation and a total waste of ice time thankfully no games for a month
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Someone put us in an untenable position. We got a BC team that had been off since Wednesday with a fresh set of legs. We wore ourselves down against UNH.

Poor scheduling on our part if PC had a choice in this. We have to reschedule due to the bigger sell of BU/BC at Fenway which is fine. However to either accept this as the open date when you have a game the night before and BC doesn't plus and you have a basketball game already scheduled at home on this date is just stupidity. It is equally stupid if we did acquiesce to BC objections to another date since we are the ones giving something up.

I think a Sunday November 29 game would have fit better. Both teams played that Friday. PC had conflicts for the ice Saturday night since the women played Wisconsin in their marquee home game the 28th and the men had BC in Bball that night.

Ultimately we were foreced to play 2 teams that had to solely focus on how to beat Providence. PC had to look at how they would approach the whole weekend.
 
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steven22 said:
That makes sense. With the way BC was controlling the puck possession, Army needed about 5 more time outs!!

BC is the fastest team that I have seen so far this year. The forwards can fly into the offense zone and the D are also fast clearing the puck. My bet is if they keep up that pace they will win Hockey East this year. The Eagles were a fun team to watch last night. PC not so much fun :(
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I'll go one step further. Army has the home ice advantage and realizes how the Cox timeouts fit in. I'm sure there are a set number of breaks a period and I sense when we get down to the last 5 minutes of a period they have been exhausted. He knows he'll get those breaks again in the 3rd till the end and if he did not break momentum at that point and as had been noted we were boxed in with the icing call, the game would get out of hand. While as the final indicated we could not come back but if we had gotten the fluke goal at the beginning of the 3rd before BC had gotten their 3rd goal it might have changed things.

You will also note about the change they talk about that we had 3 dmen trapped on the ice. So we were chewing up their reserves plus New was lost as to what he should be playing since Smith and Baier were playing defense and being trapped so low they could not switch to let New take charge of clearing the puck. A faceoff might have switched one of the dmen with New but its the far end of the rink in the 2nd you are not going to be able to get a quick change to fix your line even if things go right, never mind if BC continued to build momentum.
 
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Jon said:
Unless they do what we've been worrying about the past 3 years and just eliminate hockey.
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Let's just say Driscoll is more concerned about getting scholarship for his newly minted Big East Lacrosse team

See this line in this article

Without football, the Friars lack a sport outside of men’s basketball that attracts big crowds. Lacrosse has that potential, say Driscoll and Burdick.

http://www.projo.com/pc/content/sp_col_lacrosse_01_06-01-09_IPEII4L_v2.37b04c8.html
 
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Last weekend I had the opportunity to see RPI play #5 Cornell. RPI is a team in its fourth year with its head coach. They skated with Cornell every step of the way. The fact they lost 2-1 is almost irrelevant. What is important is they have had two solid recriuiting classes and once they learn how to win, I suspect they will have a national presence. BTW, the RPI coach had a five year contract and has received a one year extension. They are where I certainly expected PC to be in year four with its (then) new head coach.

Last night I finally had the opportunity to see this year's Friars play #10 BC. As we all know they are in year five with their head coach. When I compare what I saw at Schneider last night to what I saw in the RPI team last week I can say the Hokeydad has his glasses mixed up between RPI and PC. The RPI glass is about 70% full and rising.

PC did a first class job on the FOF room. They have made the arena somewhat nicer in the recent past. BUt they still are not a first class operation. For all the reasons we have lamented. Oh and my ears are still ringing from the NOISE coming from the white box over my head.

I did enjoy reconnecting with so many of you last night. I just wish there had been more to get excited about.
 
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cavbim said:
Without football, the Friars lack a sport outside of men’s basketball that attracts big crowds. Lacrosse has that potential, say Driscoll and Burdick.
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That's astounding, but not surprising. Hockey is a costly sport -- if they think so little of it, as some of us have speculated here, you wonder what kind of priority it has going forward at PC.

We've mentioned it before, but it bears a discussion because so little seems to be invested there, from the on-ice performance to the venue, the FOF improvements notwithstanding.
 
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The Freds said:
Last weekend I had the opportunity to see RPI play #5 Cornell. RPI is a team in its fourth year with its head coach. They skated with Cornell every step of the way. The fact they lost 2-1 is almost irrelevant. What is important is they have had two solid recriuiting classes and once they learn how to win, I suspect they will have a national presence. BTW, the RPI coach had a five year contract and has received a one year extension. They are where I certainly expected PC to be in year four with its (then) new head coach.

Last night I finally had the opportunity to see this year's Friars play #10 BC. As we all know they are in year five with their head coach. When I compare what I saw at Schneider last night to what I saw in the RPI team last week I can say the Hokeydad has his glasses mixed up between RPI and PC. The RPI glass is about 70% full and rising.

PC did a first class job on the FOF room. They have made the arena somewhat nicer in the recent past. BUt they still are not a first class operation. For all the reasons we have lamented. Oh and my ears are still ringing from the NOISE coming from the white box over my head.

I did enjoy reconnecting with so many of you last night. I just wish there had been more to get excited about.
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Your logic is flawwed.

They(RPI) are a 500 type team right now, have lost 6 of last 8. With 1 vs the wagon known as Bentley. They are 21-41-12 before this season.
They play hard, lose games late(choked to Union giving up 2 in last minute to lose last week) and that is a good thing.

Their recruiting is avg at best. PC has 2 NHL draft picks in their class this year and next and a great freshmen and sophmore class, junior class is not bad either. Goalie is a stud and their 2 clases are every bit as good as RPI.

One guy who is a 500 team and 21-41-12 is a boy genius, the other is a dope. The 4 games I have seen PC play all were very competitive and they were right there. The Maine games were very competitive and they have had as many quality wins as RPI.

PC has 1 senior in their top 15 in scoring


If you had stumbled into the PC vs ND game or them vs Northeastern, U Mas Lowell, U Mass etc and were an RPI fan, you would ahve felt the same way about them, if of course you were an RPI grad.

Here are the 5 recent RPI press releases.

12.5.2009 | Men's Hockey
Men's Hockey Defeated by Colgate, 5-2

11.28.09 | Men's Hockey
Men's Hockey Edged in Holiday Tournament Final, 5-4, in OT

12.4.2009 | Men's Hockey
#7 Cornell Holds Off Men's Hockey, 2-1(they of course call them #7 Cornell, you call them #5, talk about tilted glass)

Men's Hockey Falls to Niagara, 4-1

Men's Hockey Slips Past AIC, 3-2 (quality win there.

They also lost top Army.

RPI started out 6-2-1 and is 2-6 in their last 8

RPI is no better off then PC, talk about rose colored glasses.
 
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Hokydad said:
Your logic is flawwed.

They(RPI) are a 500 type team right now, have lost 6 of last 8. With 1 vs the wagon known as Bentley. They are 21-41-12 before this season.
They play hard, lose games late(choked to Union giving up 2 in last minute to lose last week) and that is a good thing.

Their recruiting is avg at best. PC has 2 NHL draft picks in their class this year and next and a great freshmen and sophmore class, junior class is not bad either. Goalie is a stud and their 2 clases are every bit as good as RPI.

One guy who is a 500 team and 21-41-12 is a boy genius, the other is a dope. The 4 games I have seen PC play all were very competitive and they were right there. The Maine games were very competitive and they have had as many quality wins as RPI.

PC has 1 senior in their top 15 in scoring


If you had stumbled into the PC vs ND game or them vs Northeastern, U Mas Lowell, U Mass etc and were an RPI fan, you would ahve felt the same way about them, if of course you were an RPI grad.

Here are the 5 recent RPI press releases.

12.5.2009 | Men's Hockey
Men's Hockey Defeated by Colgate, 5-2

11.28.09 | Men's Hockey
Men's Hockey Edged in Holiday Tournament Final, 5-4, in OT

12.4.2009 | Men's Hockey
#7 Cornell Holds Off Men's Hockey, 2-1(they of course call them #7 Cornell, you call them #5, talk about tilted glass)

Men's Hockey Falls to Niagara, 4-1

Men's Hockey Slips Past AIC, 3-2 (quality win there.

They also lost top Army.

RPI started out 6-2-1 and is 2-6 in their last 8

RPI is no better off then PC, talk about rose colored glasses.
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You mean Army the top flight, perienial contender you chirped about some page back? Now you throw them under the bus? You fraud!
 
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Netman said:
You mean Army the top flight, perienial contender you chirped about some page back? Now you throw them under the bus? You fraud!
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No, you fool.

I said Army was not a second tier program and was not a joke, as mentioned by another.

they are though having an off year and a loss to them by RPI in this guys world would be unexpected.

Army is a storried great program and a top notch program Does not mean they dont have off years

You fool, try reading next time instead off flapping your gums.
 
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The Freds said:
It's my opinion, simple as that.
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You're not allowed to have an opinion unless you clear it w/ the hockey guru first! :rolleyes:
At least he won't be wrong about PC for another month so he has that going for him. :p

It was interesting to see that although RPI may have 9 losses, 4 of the losses are 1 by a goal. Incidently, PC only has 1 loss where they lost by a goal and that came this past Friday.

I think that coming up just short is better than losing games by 2, 3, or 4 goals. Just my opinion but I think that every coach in the world would agree with me.
It means that you are closer to achieving your goal of winning then if your team is constantly losing by a few goals a night. Just saying.
 
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The Freds said:
It's my opinion, simple as that.
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Fair enough

It's my opinion that PC will be doing well within the next year and will be further up the food chain then RPI.
Would though be nice to see thiose 2 go at it again in a national championship game. That would rock the establishment
 
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PC91 said:
You're not allowed to have an opinion unless you clear it w/ the hockey guru first! :rolleyes:
At least he won't be wrong about PC for another month so he has that going for him. :p

It was interesting to see that although RPI may have 9 losses, 4 of the losses are 1 by a goal. Incidently, PC only has 1 loss where they lost by a goal and that came this past Friday.

I think that coming up just short is better than losing games by 2, 3, or 4 goals. Just my opinion but I think that every coach in the world would agree with me.
It means that you are closer to achieving your goal of winning then if your team is constantly losing by a few goals a night. Just saying.
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All that shows is that you know nothing about hockey. Ask any D 1 coach what a 1 goal loss means and he will tell you your team lost. Laughable to say otherwise.
 
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