POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again

[aparch]

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Cue FOX News ranting about how John Roberts is a liberal shill.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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No, "people" aren't. These Republicans are. And their voters are. But that's the bottom of the barrel; the dregs of the gene pool.

We've always had these slime with us but hitherto they were divided evenly between the parties. The problem is now they are completely aligned with one side, so for the moment they can actually get their way. They are repealing civilization because it shows them, by comparison, to be utter failures.

We keep going and we keep growing and meanwhile we don't help while they reduce their own numbers through their own policies. They are committing suicide. We just have to learn to stop saying "we have a duty to protect everyone." No. No, we don't. These animals made their bed and now they can burn in it.

We are one or two generations away from leaving them in the dust permanently. The only job now is to survive until we can contain them.

Careful you smug, East Coast elitist. You're going to hurt the Dumpies' pwecious fee-fees.

 

[burd]

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Careful you smug, East Coast elitist. You're going to hurt the Dumpies' pwecious fee-fees.

Would Kep be called a flyerover or a flyoverer.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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He’s going to be mentally unfit to feed himself in a year.

No he isn't. Dump does not have dementia, he's just a stupid, ill-tempered thug used to bullying and bribing much smarter people to do his dirty work for him. It's been exposed for the whole world to see for 4+ years now. The difference is that as President, he can't hide it anymore the way he could order re-shoots when he did The Apprentice. He could fight his real estate & bankruptcy battles mainly through lawyers instead of standing at a podium with the entire country watching him flail, flap, and stutter.

 

[The Rube]

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No he isn't. Dump does not have dementia, he's just a stupid, ill-tempered thug used to bullying and bribing much smarter people to do his dirty work for him. It's been exposed for the whole world to see for 4+ years now. The difference is that as President, he can't hide it anymore the way he could order re-shoots when he did The Apprentice. He could fight his real estate & bankruptcy battles mainly through lawyers instead of standing at a podium with the entire country watching him flail, flap, and stutter.

This. He always got what he wanted, because he said so (or enough people flocked to him). Now he can't have that, and doesn't know what to do.

Edit: he is smart in manipulation tactics, as he is now.

 

[Kepler]

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Would Kep be called a flyerover or a flyoverer.

There are cities in the Midwest, too. Minneapolis and Madison and, I dunno, there must be others.

 

[The Rube]

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There are cities in the Midwest, too. Minneapolis and Madison and, I dunno, there must be others.

Well you omitted Chicago.

Ladies and gentlemen, there's your first clue. Yes, Chicago is midwest.

 

[Kepler]

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Well you omitted Chicago.

Ladies and gentlemen, there's your first clue. Yes, Chicago is midwest.

Chicago, Detroit, and Denver are honorary real cities. So are the TX cities but I don't know if they'd be considered "flyover." Is TX "flyover" or just The Forbidden Zone?

St. Louis is another one like Minneapolis. (I'm striking Madison, it's not really a city at all.) Milwaukee I always think of like Gary, as Chicago's gross appendage.

Honorary Real Cities: Chicago (and its gross appendages), Detroit, Denver

Flyover Cities: Minneapolis, St. Louis, KC, Omaha

Texas/Oklahoma is unclassified.

Arizona and Ohio count as extensions of the coasts.

I think that covers everything except for places like Lexington and Memphis -- I dunno what to call them.

The point is, if you're liberal hunker down at the nearest Trade Joe's until this blows over. Odds are no matter where you live in America if you're liberal you're near a decent university and/or a decent microbrewery. Culture is what matters, here.

 

[French Rage]

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https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/1/29/21113768/impeachment-trial-engel-bolton-yovanovitch

A top Democratic Congress member just added another wrinkle to the ongoing Senate debate over whether to allow witnesses to testify in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.

And one witness in particular: former National Security Adviser John Bolton.

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Eliot Engel (D-NY) made a stunning disclosure on Wednesday: “President Trump is wrong that John Bolton didn’t say anything about the Trump-Ukraine Scandal at the time the President fired him. He said something to me.”

According to Engel, during a private phone conversation in late September, shortly after Bolton was fired, Bolton told him — “unprompted” — that the House Foreign Affairs Committee should look into the ouster of US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

“He strongly implied that something improper had occurred around her removal as our top diplomat in Kyiv,” Engel said in his statement.

At that point, the House had already begun its inquiry into Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, which encompassed the right-wing smear campaign against Yovanovitch.

 

[The Rube]

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Chicago and Denver are honorary real cities. So are the TX cities but I don't know if they'd be considered "flyover." Is TX "flyover" or just The Forbidden Zone?

TX is straight up south/southern. Denver I would consider mountain, which is a tad different than flyover, but that could be just me.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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"Flyover" is roughly everything north of Dallas (all the way up to Canada) and west of Chicago (through to the Rockies). Just because it has a couple of left-leaning cities doesn't mean it's not flyover country.

"The South" is a different kind of dumb altogether.

 

[Kepler]

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"Flyover" is roughly everything north of Dallas (all the way up to Canada) and west of Chicago (through to the Rockies). Just because it has a couple of left-leaning cities doesn't mean it's not flyover country.

"The South" is a different kind of dumb altogether.

Oh I think of the mindvoid between Columbus (E) and Chicago (W) as flyover as well. Indiana is the very essence of flyover -- bovine people who survive on federal subsidies and still hate the gubmint.

The irony in all this is I never think of the Great Lakes as part of flyover, either. I think of the GL as a tendril of Atlantic civilization, like the Columbia River is from the Pacific. Areas roughly touching are a different kettle of fish.

When I close my eyes and think "flyover" my mental image is a trapezoid with corners in Indiana, Montana, Kansas, and Kentucky. Mississippi, for example, is right out. So is Idaho. Utah isn't flyover either -- eastern CO is, so I guess the Rockies and the Appalachians are the west and east edges, south of the Great Lakes and north of... the Red River maybe? AR is flyover but LA is not.

 

[The Rube]

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I agree with you on Indiana

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Oh I think of the mindvoid between Columbus (E) and Chicago (W) as flyover as well. Indiana is the very essence of flyover -- bovine people who survive on federal subsidies.

Indiana, rural Illinois, northwestern Ohio, and the rural parts of southern Lower Michigan all arguably qualify. Ohio south of I-70 and east of C-bus is part of Greater Appalachia. Michigan north of Saginaw Bay is Diet Ontario.

 

[The Rube]

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Not that it needs to be said, but the UP and Iron Range of MN....way different country.

 

[Kepler]

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Not that it needs to be said, but the UP and Iron Range of MN....way different country.

Sure, but there are rube areas of NY too. CA, for that matter. Not everywhere rural rube red is flyover; that's the point.

 

[The Rube]

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Sure, but there are rube areas of NY too. CA, for that matter. Not everywhere rural rube red is flyover; that's the point.

Agreed. Had to think about that for half a second, but yeah.

 

[Kepler]

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Indiana, rural Illinois, northwestern Ohio, and the rural parts of southern Lower Michigan all arguably qualify. Ohio south of I-70 and east of C-bus is part of Greater Appalachia. Michigan north of Saginaw Bay is Diet Ontario.

Downstate IL is just Colder Missouri. It's definitely flyover.

I'll take your word on the dividing line in OH and MI. Appalachia is its own weird as-s thing and SE OH is WV, so it's not included. I guess the western half of OH except for the GL industrial cities is.

I'm thinking that rural MI isn't flyover, it's Arctic Appalachia. IA is classic flyover but I don't know about southern MN and SW Wisco. I... guess? TBH I have no mental image of southern MN at all. Everything I know comes from board posts about Mankato that make it sound like Wasilla with worse weather and even more snowbillies.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, claims GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham "was in the loop" about their efforts in Ukraine to uncover dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden. <a href="https://t.co/rBb1nC4vRG">https://t.co/rBb1nC4vRG</a> <a href="https://t.co/lEgPB8gUQ7">pic.twitter.com/lEgPB8gUQ7</a></p>— Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) <a href="https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1222757731980976128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear <a href="https://twitter.com/CongressEthics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CongressEthics</a>: Can I have my staff pressure a foreign government to help my re-election campaign because it’s in the public interest that I get re-elected?<br><br>Just kidding. Unlike <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> & crazy <a href="https://twitter.com/AlanDersh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AlanDersh</a>, I follow federal law. <a href="https://t.co/ceBUUebSyR">https://t.co/ceBUUebSyR</a></p>— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) <a href="https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1222752013617942528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>