POTUS: Definitely Needs Anger Management

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS: Definitely Needs Anger Management

Bingo.

If that was the case why would he say the taxpayers shouldnt have had to pay for Clinton's either? I wont hold my breathe for a reason because you wont have one and you obviously didnt read his posts.

His point is wrong, but it has zero to do with being them impeaching Trump. Taxpayers have to pay for Impeachment because Taxpayers fund the government. It has zero to do with being a conservative or a liberal and just scanning his posts would have told you that.

That doesnt back up your point though so I will just assume you will ignore it.

BTW just so you can have a second chance:

No. They shouldn't have had to pay for Clinton's, they shouldn't have to pay for Trump's. I want every politician to do their job in an efficient manner (yes, you can start laughing now ) because that is what they are paid to do. If they drag it out, have to hold extra sessions because they keep fighting like 5 year olds, start penalizing them by taking it out of their paycheck.

Something has to change, and if we start penalizing them with financials...maybe things will change. The old credo was "just vote 'em out," and as we can see, that hasn't really been effective.

Reading is FUNdamental there Scoobs.

Now please stop being off brand Trix I want the old Scooby back

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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If that was the case why would he say the taxpayers shouldnt have had to pay for Clinton's either? I wont hold my breathe for a reason because you wont have one and you obviously didnt read his posts.

His point is wrong, but it has zero to do with being them impeaching Trump. Taxpayers have to pay for Impeachment because Taxpayers fund the government. It has zero to do with being a conservative or a liberal and just scanning his posts would have told you that.

That doesnt back up your point though so I will just assume you will ignore it.

BTW just so you can have a second chance:



Reading is FUNdamental there Scoobs.

Now please stop being off brand Trix I want the old Scooby back

It's a disbelief in governing in totality. Which is all Republican BS. Reading has nothing to do with it.

bsabsvr.

 

[Handyman]

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Uh huh...so you were wrong, you were proven wrong and now you have moved the goalposts to try and make it seem right even though you are still wrong. Gotcha

Your point would be salient if you attacked Rube like unofan did where you took Rube's crappy idea and destroyed it. It is very easy to do because, again, it is ridiculous. You didnt do that though. You agreed with DGF that Rube doesnt want Impeachment funded by taxpayers because Trump is a conservative...which of course is BS because he said he didnt want Clinton's Impeachment funded by taxpayers either. (again both stupid ideas)

You can say Rube doesnt want ANY Impeachment funded because HE is a conservative...that would be a statement backed up by facts and things he said. (and for at least the third time...it is ridiculous and wrong)
You cannot say he doesnt want Trump's Impeachment funded because Trump is a conservative. That is false. That is a lie. That is the stuff we nail the GOP over 35000000000 times a day. That is literally contradicted by his own words. (which I re-posted for you)

Do you see the difference? This isnt even about The Rube this is a game a lot of people on our side are starting to play and it is annoying as heck. We arent the GOP we dont need to play hard and loose with the truth. The more we do, the worse we look.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Uh huh...so you were wrong, you were proven wrong and now you have moved the goalposts to try and make it seem right even though you are still wrong. Gotcha

Your point would be salient if you attacked Rube like unofan did where you took Rube's crappy idea and destroyed it. It is very easy to do because, again, it is ridiculous. You didnt do that though. You agreed with DGF that Rube doesnt want Impeachment funded by taxpayers because Trump is a conservative...which of course is BS because he said he didnt want Clinton's Impeachment funded by taxpayers either. (again both stupid ideas)

You can say Rube doesnt want ANY Impeachment funded because HE is a conservative...that would be a statement backed up by facts and things he said. (and for at least the third time...it is ridiculous and wrong)
You cannot say he doesnt want Trump's Impeachment funded because Trump is a conservative. That is false. That is a lie. That is the stuff we nail the GOP over 35000000000 times a day. That is literally contradicted by his own words. (which I re-posted for you)

Do you see the difference? This isnt even about The Rube this is a game a lot of people on our side are starting to play and it is annoying as heck. We arent the GOP we dont need to play hard and loose with the truth. The more we do, the worse we look.

Do you think he would say the same thing if Obama was being impeached? See, I do not. Cause we all know if Obama were being impeached EVERYBODY on the planet would be taking it seriously. And I seriously doubt he would have said it back when Clinton was impeached. No one did. Not a single Democrat that I knew at the time said he didn't deserved it. No one. And no one I know complained about the money being spent back then.

The fact is and what you are missing here and everyone is missing all the time is the double standard is real. And pointing out the double standard is real does not make me or anyone else a bad person. No. What pointing out the double standard makes me is one of the few people actually living reality in the United States. Something rarely seen on News shows anywhere.

The bubble has to popped as often as possible. And I am not going to just walk by the bubble and pretend it isn't there. I watch too many "liberal" media types do that every single day.

Rube pointing out Clinton and playing both sides in hinsight does not mean I believe him when he says it. On the contrary.

 

[The Rube]

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Do you think he would say the same thing if Obama was being impeached? See, I do not. Cause we all know if Obama were being impeached EVERYBODY on the planet would be taking it seriously. And I seriously doubt he would have said it back when Clinton was impeached. No one did. Not a single Democrat that I knew at the time said he didn't deserved it. No one. And no one I know complained about the money being spent back then.

The fact is and what you are missing here and everyone is missing all the time is the double standard is real. And pointing out the double standard is real does not make me or anyone else a bad person. No. What pointing out the double standard makes me is one of the few people actually living reality in the United States. Something rarely seen on News shows anywhere.

The bubble has to popped as often as possible. And I am not going to just walk by the bubble and pretend it isn't there. I watch too many "liberal" media types do that every single day.

Rube pointing out Clinton and playing both sides in hinsight does not mean I believe him when he says it. On the contrary.

Yes, I would say the same thing. Here we are in this current impeachment, and both sides are just sitting there until one blinks. We shouldn't have to pay for that, in ANY sort of impeachment (or for that matter, bills that are deadlocked, because both sides pout until they get their way).

Elected officials are there to do a job. If they can't do the job, because of whatever lack of compromise isn't there, start financially punishing them. Now, do I want to push things through just to push them through? Of course not. But I think it's time to put the real pressure on elected officials to get work done. And if they stand to lose some money, maybe they'll get the message.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Yes, I would say the same thing. Here we are in this current impeachment, and both sides are just sitting there until one blinks. We shouldn't have to pay for that, in ANY sort of impeachment (or for that matter, bills that are deadlocked, because both sides pout until they get their way).

Elected officials are there to do a job. If they can't do the job, because of whatever lack of compromise isn't there, start financially punishing them. Now, do I want to push things through just to push them through? Of course not. But I think it's time to put the real pressure on elected officials to get work done. And if they stand to lose some money, maybe they'll get the message.

for the people in the back apparently not paying attention

CONSTITUTIONALLY-ASSIGNED DUTIES ARE THEIR JOBS

THE CONSTITUTION PRESCRIBES IMPEACHMENT

 

[The Rube]

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So, let's continue the process that was started. Right now, the Rs are demanding stuff, while not answering subpoenas, and the Ds are sitting there until the Rs blink. That's bullsh* Let's get this process done. That is what they are being paid to do. The Rs should cooperate, to get the matter over with, and the Ds should press on with what they have.

(FTR, I hope Trump is removed, as he should be, but I don't think that will happen)

'Edit: NOTHING is being done right now. Nothing. It's stuck in a waiting period. That is not what anyone is being paid to do.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

So, let's continue the process that was started. Right now, the Rs are demanding stuff, while not answering subpoenas, and the Ds are sitting there until the Rs blink. That's bullsh* Let's get this process done. That is what they are being paid to do. The Rs should cooperate, to get the matter over with, and the Ds should press on with what they have.

(FTR, I hope Trump is removed, as he should be, but I don't think that will happen)

Just don’t agree with anything Rudy says anymore and we can avoid pages of conversation
I kid, I kid.

 

[The Rube]

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Just don’t agree with anything Rudy says anymore and we can avoid pages of conversation
I kid, I kid.

That is why I specifically pointed out the one small thing in Rudy's statements. The rest of it was garbage.

 

[rufus]

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The GOP is projecting again. They are trying to sell the narrative that impeachment is anti-constitutional. It's the most constitutional thing the legislature can do: prevent a criminal, traitorous, and/or scheming President from wrecking our government. I don't think the Founders imagined a President who would be all three at once, but here we are.

Impeaching this POS is Congress' job. That was Mueller's whole point.

They might have envisioned a president who was all three, but they never envisioned a Congress that would be ok with that.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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They might have envisioned a president who was all three, but they never envisioned a Congress that would be ok with that.

There is no check and balance in the Constitution that the founders produced that accounts for what we have now. No one envisioned a President this deserving of removal and a Party in Power in the Senate not seeing anything wrong with what he did.

The Constitution is breaking down right before our eyes. And, a lot of people sworn to protect it are watching it burn.

 

[rufus]

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Yes, I would say the same thing. Here we are in this current impeachment, and both sides are just sitting there until one blinks. We shouldn't have to pay for that, in ANY sort of impeachment (or for that matter, bills that are deadlocked, because both sides pout until they get their way).

Elected officials are there to do a job. If they can't do the job, because of whatever lack of compromise isn't there, start financially punishing them. Now, do I want to push things through just to push them through? Of course not. But I think it's time to put the real pressure on elected officials to get work done. And if they stand to lose some money, maybe they'll get the message.

And there's the Republican(Trump( line that Congress can't do anything while they're all focused on impeachment. Which is false, and fake news, as Kepler said, into making dimbulbs believe that what they're doing is unconstitutional, or illegal, or unfair, or phony, or whatever other euphemism Dishonest Donnie digs up to attempt to fool his base.

None of that is true. To phrase it the way you just did shows you have bought into their framing of the process.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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And there's the Republican(Trump( line that Congress can't do anything while they're all focused on impeachment. Which is false, and fake news, as Kepler said, into making dimbulbs believe that what they're doing is unconstitutional, or illegal, or unfair, or phony, or whatever other euphemism Dishonest Donnie digs up to attempt to fool his base.

None of that is true. To phrase it the way you just did shows you have bought into their framing of the process.

Correct. Nancy has been walking and chewing gum the whole time. Everything sits on McConnell's desk to die.

 

[rufus]

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So, let's continue the process that was started. Right now, the Rs are demanding stuff, while not answering subpoenas, and the Ds are sitting there until the Rs blink. That's bullsh* Let's get this process done. That is what they are being paid to do. The Rs should cooperate, to get the matter over with, and the Ds should press on with what they have.

(FTR, I hope Trump is removed, as he should be, but I don't think that will happen)

'Edit: NOTHING is being done right now. Nothing. It's stuck in a waiting period. That is not what anyone is being paid to do.

And just how, good sir, do you plan on getting the Republicans to cooperate? I mean, besides garnishing their wages?

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

And there's the Republican(Trump( line that Congress can't do anything while they're all focused on impeachment. Which is false, and fake news, as Kepler said, into making dimbulbs believe that what they're doing is unconstitutional, or illegal, or unfair, or phony, or whatever other euphemism Dishonest Donnie digs up to attempt to fool his base.

None of that is true. To phrase it the way you just did shows you have bought into their framing of the process.

If the senate won’t remove someone as corrupt as trump, then the constitution is already failing. Rest of the world knows that if a certain party holds the senate, there is no accountability.
This is why the billionaire dummies should be funneling gazillions into the senate races. I truly believe there are more non-voters than Republicans so just get them participating

 

[rufus]

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There is no check and balance in the Constitution that the founders produced that accounts for what we have now. No one envisioned a President this deserving of removal and a Party in Power in the Senate not seeing anything wrong with what he did.

The Constitution is breaking down right before our eyes. And, a lot of people sworn to protect it are watching it burn.

But that's what a lot of people wanted, many on this forum. Burn it all down.

You arseholes happy yet?

 

[The Rube]

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And just how, good sir, do you plan on getting the Republicans to cooperate? I mean, besides garnishing their wages?

Arrest the people who aren't showing up for the subpoenas, to start with. Heck, I bet there is some loophole in the law somewhere that would allow FBI/CIA/Homeland to arrest people (and possibly charge them within the appropriate timeframe) because of their work with foreign entities. Basically, ANYTHING like that.

What it comes down to, is that what has been traditionally "the way things are done" isn't working. So let's dig into all the fine print of the laws, and think of a different way.

 

[burd]

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Arrest the people who aren't showing up for the subpoenas, to start with. Heck, I bet there is some loophole in the law somewhere that would allow FBI/CIA/Homeland to arrest people (and possibly charge them within the appropriate timeframe) because of their work with foreign entities. Basically, ANYTHING like that.

What it comes down to, is that what has been traditionally "the way things are done" isn't working. So let's dig into all the fine print of the laws, and think of a different way.

Two things: First of all, I suspect the Dems on the hill, who are in the business of using the fine print in the law to accomplish their ends, would say those are naive comments, particularly when the Senate makes the procedural rules for the impeachment trial.

Second, any attempt to compel attendance of witnesses within the executive branch will ultimately end up you-know-where (if the witness' testimony is likely to support removal). Dems will go this route when they have to or when they think it will play well politically, but we all know how the Supremes are going to come down on questions of executive power and protection, even when the issue is congressional power to subpoena witnesses at an impeachment hearing.

Bottom line: Dems need to figure out how to politically outmaneuver the Rs when these issues arise. We knew all this was likely to happen, which is why Pelosi was so guarded about heading down this path.

 

[The Rube]

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Bottom line: Dems need to figure out how to politically outmaneuver the Rs when these issues arise. We knew all this was likely to happen, which is why Pelosi was so guarded about heading down this path.

I agree with this. Now, once the ball is rolling...let's keep it rolling. There's got to be a way to keep it rolling.

 

[unofan]

I agree with this. Now, once the ball is rolling...let's keep it rolling. There's got to be a way to keep it rolling.

Yes, let's keep it rolling so the Rs can get a quick acquittal after a kangaroo court and trump can claim exoneration.

That sounds swell.