POTUS 46.10: A New Hope

[dxmnkd316]

Kep, that's not a good post. I'm with psych. That's not for you to decide or comment on. No different than telling LGBTQ how they can feel.

You can comment on her politics and how they could affect minority communities, but you don't get to discuss her supposed POC bona fides

 

[rufus]

Kamala makes Obama look like Malcolm X. She's a politician in America who wants to fit in. She's the same degree POC as Tulsi.

But not as in hock to the Russians

 

[Handyman]

Lol. Sam Stein locked his account.

This is one of the most embarrassing for the reporters (reporterS!!) stories I've ever seen. They even tweeted out the VP's office told them they had bigger things to worry about.

Unreal.

Sam Stein is a fucking sellout kapo. (Jew collaborators in Nazi Germany) He does what his RWNJ owners tell him too. At least Ben Shapiro doesn't hide what he is...Sam Stein pretends he is a real journalist playing it right down the middle. Meanwhile every credible journalist mocks him and the clowns he chooses to associate with. He has fallen a long way since The Daily Beast.

 

[Handyman]

I gotta think this was deliberate because anybody who has worked in a classified environment knows this -- we have InfoSec training every year that reinforces it -- and half the people at Politico are ex-green badgers.

Politico has always sucked but apparently they've actually crossed the line into sabotage now.

Look who owns Politico now...that will tell you what you need to know.

(they get very testy when legit journalists bring that up to them)

 

[Handyman]

The irony is she is no threat. She has always played the game; she wants to be an insider and continue the Olde Ways of access political "journalism." She's one of them, just like Hillary was, but they can't help themselves.

Can you imagine how they are going to treat Abrams? A sincere Leftist who doesn't play, and who hasn't spent her life curating herself as off-brand white?

I know. Hell that was one of the talking points the legit press brought up when she became the running mate. But you see to the people who don't pay attention she has darker skin tone so she must be some hardcore socialist leftist!!! The fact that she was AG of California and was never known as being super progressive never crosses their mind because she looks and sounds different. Politico knows that, and well, they don't have the editorial mandate to actually report on real issues so they make them up and kowtow to the lowest common denominator for clicks.

There are real things to worry about in the world and they focus on the headphones she uses. You would think they could find something else to discuss with her...the threats of war in Ukraine and Taiwan, how racism is all over Congress right now or how you know REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE IN JEOPARDY! All of these things she would have relevant and unique perspectives on...but nah Politico needs to actually out Faux Faux News and talk about how she wears wired headphones...then when called out for it double down and talk about how her security concerns are legit news. Well sure they are fuckwit, but that wasn't your story. You were pretending she was some tech phobic weirdo and giving no context why she actually wears them. Even 3rd rate bloggers would have called the Office of the Veep and asked...but that would have made the story moot.

They will make Abrams out to be a Leftist Instigator out to push an agenda 3 orders of magnitude to the left of Bernie. They will talk about her weight, her gap tooth and how she is kinda of odd cause she writes fiction books in her spare time. She will embarrass them and they will double down.

 

[Handyman]

I merely find it absurd that a white guy, as liberal as you are, would make such a post, including the one I’m quoting. Politics don’t determine whether someone is a person of color, much less a worthy one. Tulsi Gabbard, as awful as her politics are, and they’re fucking awful, is no less a POC than Kamala, Malcolm X, Abrams, or the real Jesus Christ.

This is all true.

 

[MissThundercat]

I merely find it absurd that a white guy, as liberal as you are, would make such a post, including the one I’m quoting. Politics don’t determine whether someone is a person of color, much less a worthy one. Tulsi Gabbard, as awful as her politics are, and they’re fucking awful, is no less a POC than Kamala, Malcolm X, Abrams, or the real Jesus Christ.

For example, in my community, we heavily criticize Caitlyn because she's a Trumper who's done nothing to help other trans people. We don't deem her any less trans because of her politics. Much like Sinema isn't any less bisexual because of her politics.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Kep, that's not a good post. I'm with psych. That's not for you to decide or comment on. No different than telling LGBTQ how they can feel.

You can comment on her politics and how they could affect minority communities, but you don't get to discuss her supposed POC bona fides

Not just the POc angle- women can’t win period. Aoc is loudly progressive and gets tons of hate. Women have to fight to be seen and heard and I think it’s tough to separate what Kamala has adapted to as a woman and then a poc

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

https://twitter.com/johnmconnollyjr/...08695397326851

That is an article from The Military Times about how Troops were banned from wearing Fitbits and other fitness trackers because they were vulnerable due to geo-tracking. This was back in 2018...

The Media, and Politico specifically, have a real hard on for Harris.

Reasonable concerns about wireless headsets are, for Harris, what the tan suit was for Obama. A convenient way for the 'liberal' media to get some cheap clickbait so they can say "See, we aren't biased!" when the Fourth Reich accuses them of being biased. The stupidity of it all is that the MSM knows it won't change any fascist hearts or minds, but they do it anyway.

 

[SJHovey]

Reasonable concerns about wireless headsets are, for Harris, what the tan suit was for Obama. A convenient way for the 'liberal' media to get some cheap clickbait so they can say "See, we aren't biased!" when the Fourth Reich accuses them of being biased. The stupidity of it all is that the MSM knows it won't change any fascist hearts or minds, but they do it anyway.

I don't think it has anything to do with trying to prove lack of bias or favoritism. When you are holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The media is like the military. When you have built up a giant military, the tendency is to put it to use. For the media, this goes back to at least Woodward and Bernstein, if not further.

The media needs to be digging, attacking, doing everything possible to dig up a "story," to score a scoop, to attract readers (or "clicks" in today's world). Anyone who thought that the minute Trump left office that all of these internet or mainstream media sites and writers were just going to go on vacation doesn't understand the way media works very well.

 

[Kepler]

Kep, that's not a good post. I'm with psych. That's not for you to decide or comment on. No different than telling LGBTQ how they can feel.

You can comment on her politics and how they could affect minority communities, but you don't get to discuss her supposed POC bona fides

Oh FFS. Fine. When in Rome.

 

[rufus]

I don't think it has anything to do with trying to prove lack of bias or favoritism. When you are holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The media is like the military. When you have built up a giant military, the tendency is to put it to use. For the media, this goes back to at least Woodward and Bernstein, if not further.

The media needs to be digging, attacking, doing everything possible to dig up a "story," to score a scoop, to attract readers (or "clicks" in today's world). Anyone who thought that the minute Trump left office that all of these internet or mainstream media sites and writers were just going to go on vacation doesn't understand the way media works very well.

Fine. let them dig. Let them get a story.

This wasn't a story. This was just a cheap attack job. Just because. It had nothing to do with being "the media" It had everything to do with being cheap and lazy. I't the equivalent of "the media" writing "overweight, unhealthy president continues to maintain fast food diet against the advice of WH physicians" about Trump.

Oh wait, "the media" never wrote such a story. Look at all the clicks they missed out on.

 

[Kepler]

There's some truth to the media being an attack dog, but the MSM is also owned by the folks who do not under any circumstances want the plutocratic orgy to stop. And if they didn't throw their weight around for what they perceive are their own interests they'd be the first in world history.

But the real point is to draw a false equivalency between a democratic party and a fascist party is bias. If you believe in America you should be doing the best you can with what you have to stop the Nazis. The media has a lot and can do a lot, and few of them are. And that's exactly what happened in Germany in the 1930s.

The irony, of course, is the media are always the first against the wall when reactionaries win. They get it in the neck even before the Commies and the gays.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

There's some truth to the media being an attack dog, but the MSM is also owned by the folks who do not under any circumstances want the plutocratic orgy to stop.

Well yeah, just look at the net worths of the top anchors and talking heads on both network and cable news. You think Stephanopoulos, Lester Holt, or Cowardly Chuck Todd are gonna willingly give up life in the lap of luxury for the good of the country?

 

[Kepler]

Well yeah, just look at the net worths of the top anchors and talking heads on both network and cable news. You think Stephanopoulos, Lester Holt, or Cowardly Chuck Todd are gonna willingly give up life in the lap of luxury for the good of the country?

We can survive those idiots, they are in the 10-50 million range. The villains are the ones 100x that.

 

[unofan]

As I've said before, Tomorrow Never Dies is the Bond movie that has aged far better than anyone expected. At the time, the idea of a media mogul as an arch villain was laughable and dragged down an otherwise decent Bond flick. Boy howdy has it proven prescient. It's now up there with Goldeneye as the best of the Brosnan films.

 

[aparch]

As I've said before, Tomorrow Never Dies is the Bond movie that has aged far better than anyone expected. At the time, the idea of a media mogul as an arch villain was laughable and dragged down an otherwise decent Bond flick. Boy howdy has it proven prescient. It's now up there with Goldeneye as the best of the Brosnan films.

Quoted for truth. I liked it then, and it still holds up today.

 

[Kepler]

As I've said before, Tomorrow Never Dies is the Bond movie that has aged far better than anyone expected. At the time, the idea of a media mogul as an arch villain was laughable and dragged down an otherwise decent Bond flick. Boy howdy has it proven prescient. It's now up there with Goldeneye as the best of the Brosnan films.

I completely bought the premise at the time. The Murdochs were already internationally infamous monsters.

And the only better Celebrity Arch than Jonathon Price was Christopher Walken. (Christopher Lee had a sh-tty movie.)

 

[aparch]

And the only better Celebrity Arch than Jonathon Price was Christopher Walken. (Christopher Lee had a sh-tty movie.)

I'm half way through that list, and I'm pretty sure all I've seen are henchmen from License to Kill, half of Moore's baddies, and the villains from the weakest Brosnan films...

Which tracks. This list is pretty accurate.


Also, Rosamund Pike should have been more involved in Die Another Day, but the studio wanted Halle Berry as a "big name draw." (rolls eyes)


*Edit* How many villains are in License to Kill? I think k I counted 30 on that list. Haha. I avoid that Dalton film and prefer The Living Daylights.

 

[Handyman]

Outside of Goldeneye the Brosnan films are just awful scripts and some weird choices for actors. Nothing worse than Denise Richards as a fucking Nuclear Physicist or some such nonsense. (Christmas comes TWICE A YEAR **chortle** **gag** ) The villain in Tomorrow Never Dies may be prescient...but the movie was still mediocre.

When I was a kid I loved the Dalton films cause they were on every 12 seconds and I didn't know better. Then I saw real Bond films and havent watched them since :^(

My dad and I used to love the holidays cause TBS always did the 12 Days of Bond or whatever and we would watch his favorites.