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POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
But remember, that's when he was a civilian. Now that he's POTUS and has all the intel, it's OK for him to flip-flop. :rolleyes:
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He's learned a lot of things none of us could possibly fathom. Like, for example, that health care is really complicated!
 
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As somebody pointed out - the neocons are back.

This is turning out to be a bad Roger Corman flick.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Oh man, Freep is really starting to lose it. Less than 3 months in, and we're seeing the first serious jumps off the Trump Train.

The majority of them are hanging in there for now, but it's only a matter of time before we see our first "FUDT" comment, and the annual purity purges begin.
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Some fun nuggets:

Sad. His son-in-law did him in and dragged him into supporting the irrational vile obama agenda.....very sad.
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MISGA —Make Islamist Syrians Great Again
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What would Ted Cruz do?
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Just heard McCain on MSNBC. He's happier than happy about the Trump Syria response.

The Neocons are back. Get ready for war.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Not exactly. He did say the US was gonna stomp the ever living sh* out of some folks.
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Want To Try Again...

Trump, in fact, has explicitly rejected the notion that the United States should be “the world’s policeman.” Yet so have Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and George H.W. Bush. It’s a bipartisan platitude, intended to signal that America can’t possibly solve every problem everywhere. Trump, however, goes much further. He isn’t just saying that the U.S. can’t police the world on its own. Ironically for a man who presents himself as the law-and-order candidate, he’s suggesting that the United States doesn’t even need to be involved in enforcing international law and order as it’s presently defined. More than any previous major-party presidential candidate, Trump has questioned the value to America of the U.S.-led international system that Harry Truman helped design after World War II: NATO, free trade, nuclear nonproliferation, mutual-defense treaties and overseas military bases, and so on.
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That article was from before the election...he ran on the idea of not being the world police.
 
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Brenthoven said:
He also said that he was going to obliterate (my word) ISIS/terrorism. That's policing in my book, if one is performing that action overseas.
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Actually, it's not policing.

We started going to war over terrorism when the United States decided that Terrorism was no longer a police issue. Which to me is odd because you can't declare war on Terrorists when they have no country.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Just heard McCain on MSNBC. He's happier than happy about the Trump Syria response.

The Neocons are back. Get ready for war.
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Spoken like a true moderate :rolleyes:

#ericdaxe #GaryJohnson2016
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Actually, it's not policing.

We started going to war over terrorism when the United States decided that Terrorism was no longer a police issue. Which to me is odd because you can't declare war on Terrorists when they have no country.
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Agreed on that part.
 
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Well, if nothing else, we now have confirmation as to why Trump's team proposed the increased military budget.
 
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The fun never stops.

President Trump is considering ousting both White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and chief strategist Steve Bannon, Axios reported on Friday.

Aides and advisers to the president told Axios that, while Trump is considering a major shake up in the West Wing, it's not clear when it would happen or if Trump will "pull that trigger."

"Things are happening, but it's very unclear the president's willing to pull that trigger," one top aide said.
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Maybe that's what happened last night. Trump said, "screw it -- pull the trigger" but picked up the wrong phone.

This is a fun story too for some inside baseball. Axios is run by a refugee from Politico, and the two sites are basically at war, not just scooping each other but constantly taking the other's scoop and then undercutting or de-legitimizing it. Julie Mason (also formerly of Politico, now at XM POTUS) talks about it on her show which is really just a backyard fence for the gossip of the twenty zillion reporters she knows from her days in Dubya's press pool. Apparently it's a public playing out of an incredibly petty and thin-skinned personal grudge.

I'm pretty sure there is no professionalism anywhere anymore. Maybe we shouldn't have taken off our ties after all... :p
 
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Wisko McBadgerton said:
That made me laugh. Maybe in a few years Malcolm Gladwell will be writing an article about how casual Fridays actually led to the downfall of American Democracy.
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That's just a low blow. F-ck Malcolm Gladwell. God, at least give me Scott Adams (also an idiot, but at least one with a sense of humor if not shame).

And anyway, the guy to write that piece unironically is David Brooks. With a forward by Peggy Noonan.
 
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Handyman said:
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That article was from before the election...he ran on the idea of not being the world police.
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Brenthoven said:
He also said that he was going to obliterate (my word) ISIS/terrorism. That's policing in my book, if one is performing that action overseas.
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The guy engaged in doublespeak his entire campaign. He said we wouldn't police the world anymore, and yet he also promised, within the first 30 days, a plan for defeating ISIS.
 
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So, we warned the Russians about the upcoming strike, who warned the Syrians, who moved their equipment out of the way. That's an epic waste of material.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The guy engaged in doublespeak his entire campaign. He said we wouldn't police the world anymore, and yet he also promised, within the first 30 days, a plan for defeating ISIS.
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This is true, he promised both. Including to bomb the S out of ISIS. My conservative colleague had abandoned Trump. It started when he threatened to primary house conservatives, and now this. Yet he's certainly not gaining support anywhere. I'm curious how low he will be able to drive his popularity before whatever form the imminent Armageddon takes.
It's also interesting to me that we're apparently at war with both sides of a civil war simultaneously. That has to be great for arms dealers $$$$
 
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geezer said:
This is true, he promised both. Including to bomb the S out of ISIS. My conservative colleague had abandoned Trump. It started when he threatened to primary house conservatives, and now this. Yet he's certainly not gaining support anywhere. I'm curious how low he will be able to drive his popularity before whatever form the imminent Armageddon takes.
It's also interesting to me that we're apparently at war with both sides of a civil war simultaneously. That has to be great for arms dealers $$$$
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Lord Of War, despite Nic Cage, is a great movie that covers this type of stuff. And yes, the movie is based on real arms dealers and their workings, although the movie itself is complete fiction.
 
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Trump's in a lose-lose situation. This Syria thing is entirely bait. If he takes it, he goes full war monger. If he smartly doesn't, you wackos continue whining about Russia.
 
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