POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

I think Tim Walz will be the next governor, and he would actually be an excellent choice.

I dont see any way he beats Coleman out for the DFL ticket and he is going to cost his party a Congressional Seat in the process.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

More evidence of the GOP Stranglehold.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/opinion/michigan-is-forced-to-do-right-by-flint-finally.html?_r=0

After shirking its responsibility for years, Michigan has agreed to resolve an environmental crisis it created in Flint, by replacing thousands of lead pipes that have poisoned the city’s water. That’s good news, but it’s shameful that it took a lawsuit to make it happen.

Flint had to SUE in court to get their pipes fixed. Literally, it took a lawsuit for the Orcs to do the right thing. One wonders how many delay tactics will be employed before the job is done.

 

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

More evidence of the GOP Stranglehold.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/opinion/michigan-is-forced-to-do-right-by-flint-finally.html?_r=0



Flint had to SUE in court to get their pipes fixed. Literally, it took a lawsuit for the Orcs to do the right thing. One wonders how many delay tactics will be employed before the job is done.

Oh I am sure some big wig GOPer will get a bribe from a company lead (pun intended) by GOP donor to "fix it". What I mean by that of course is said company will overbill, use cheap materials (most likely from overseas...MURICA!!!) and pocket the rest. Flint will end up marginally better just in time for 2020...maybe 2024.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Oh I am sure some big wig GOPer will get a bribe from a company lead (pun intended) by GOP donor to "fix it". What I mean by that of course is said company will overbill, use cheap materials (most likely from overseas...MURICA!!!) and pocket the rest. Flint will end up marginally better just in time for 2020...maybe 2024.

Sounds about right.

 

[alfablue]

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Oh I am sure some big wig GOPer will get a bribe from a company lead (pun intended) by GOP donor to "fix it". What I mean by that of course is said company will overbill, use cheap materials (most likely from overseas...MURICA!!!) and pocket the rest. Flint will end up marginally better just in time for 2020...maybe 2024.

All of that to save a few million in dollars.

Stupid move.

But they will get away with it- there's a guy here at work who blames the home owners for having lead pipes. I kid you not. As if anyone of us knows.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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But they will get away with it- there's a guy here at work who blames the home owners for having lead pipes.

And this is why Republican rule is here to stay.

 

[Tiggsy]

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I just think it's telling how far the needle has moved and yet voting patterns haven't changed a bit. Mark Dayton right now is under water in most of the State and both Houses are under Republican control. Their agenda was in the paper yesterday and it's "staggering" to me what they want to do.

I bet we get a Republican Governor next. Nothing they do wrong affects their ardent supporters nor the middle. Everything the Democrats do is put under a microscope and analyzed to death to the point where people want to puke if they even think of voting for them.

What??? By the opposition, of course. But by the general public or media? Not sure I see this. Wouldn't mind seeing what leads you to this conclusion because if there is something significant out there, I may not be paying attention.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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What??? By the opposition, of course. But by the general public or media? Not sure I see this. Wouldn't mind seeing what leads you to this conclusion because if there is something significant out there, I may not be paying attention.

Are your eyes closed? The Republican party is more radical, more right wing, then ever before. That's just a fact. Everything else extrapolates easily from there.

 

[Tiggsy]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

Are your eyes closed? The Republican party is more radical, more right wing, then ever before. That's just a fact. Everything else extrapolates easily from there.

Of course. But you said the Democrats are over analyzed and the Republicans get a pass. My point was from friendly sources of course that is true but as a general statement or from people in the middle I don't see it that way.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Of course. But you said the Democrats are over analyzed and the Republicans get a pass. My point was from friendly sources of course that is true but as a general statement or from people in the middle I don't see it that way.

LOL.

Did you watch what happened to Hillary and what isn't happening right now to Trump? Please.

 

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

No they don't. They show whoever wants to see. And the 37% that are locked in plus the number that insist on being blind gives them a working majority for the foreseeable future.

This is unduly pessimistic. A bad party with a rotten ideology can survive anything... except governing! About 29% of the electorate is hopelessly brainwashed by the RWNM. The only way that 29% is decisive is if the rest of the country doesn't vote or hates the opposition candidate even more. As to the second: Hillary's not running ever again. As to the former: the second Billy Bob doesn't get his Social Security check or his Medicare payment is the second the "solid south" collapses for the Republicans.

The GOP sows the seeds of its own destruction. It was OK when their policies just hurt black people or women, but now their policies will hurt old, sick, white men. Back pain speaks louder than Hannitty.

 

[Tiggsy]

Re: POTUS 45.7 - Has the left reached the acceptance stage yet?

LOL.

Did you watch what happened to Hillary and what isn't happening right now to Trump? Please.

So, are you trying to say Trump is getting a pass? From who, other than the people who voted for him and Sean Hannity?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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This is unduly pessimistic. A bad party with a rotten ideology can survive anything... except governing! About 29% of the electorate is hopelessly brainwashed by the RWNM. The only way that 29% is decisive is if the rest of the country doesn't vote or hates the opposition candidate any more. As to the second: Hillary's not running ever again. As to the former: the second Billy Bob doesn't get his Social Security check or his Medicare payment is the second the "solid south" collapses for the Republicans.

The GOP sows the seeds of its own destruction. It was OK when their policies just hurt black people or women, but now their policies will hurt old, sick, white men. Back pain speaks louder than Hannitty.

We have two test cases already in Wisconsin and Kansas. We'll see if you're right. I'm willing to bet both stay Red for the foreseeable future despite what Republicans did to their state. Hell, did you read the Flint story I posted below?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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So, are you trying to say Trump is getting a pass? From who, other than the people who voted for him and Sean Hannity?

The Susan Rice story is getting traction from every media outlet on the planet. That gives him a free pass.

 

[Kepler]

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So, are you trying to say Trump is getting a pass? From who, other than the people who voted for him and Sean Hannity?

Trump did get a pass from the media all the way through the conventions. A billion dollars of free advertising = election.

But the worm has turned. Journalists are actually trying to be journalists again, wherever their corporate employers let them. To believe Trump was legitimate material for president in July 2016 was an understandable result of stupidity and ignorance. To still believe so in April 2017 can only be willful self-delusion.

 

[Kepler]

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The Susan Rice story is getting traction from every media outlet on the planet. That gives him a free pass.

Gone this time next week. The sh-tstorm this administration puts down in any given 24 hours buries all other stories.

 

[Handyman]

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The media hasnt been giving him a pass...but some have definitely been looking for a way to "even it up" a bit for a while now. Gotta stand out from the crowd and no one is backing Trump these days even Faux. If you can be the contrarian you can make a little extra scratch...

First they thought Nunes would be the meat but he is just a clown who cant even hide he is in Trump's pocket (and has other committee members defending him for it!) so now it is Susan Rice. Even though she did nothing wrong, even though what she did wasnt even out of the ordinary and even though it still does nothing to back up Trumps BS about being wiretapped (which started all of this!) they are still talking about it like it is some smoking gun. Well I guess technically it is, since it proves that Trump's minions were in direct contact with Russia when they werent supposed to be.

That is the story and yet most of the media seems to forget that 2 + 2 actually equals 4.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Gone this time next week. The sh-tstorm this administration puts down in any given 24 hours buries all other stories.

And has had zero effect. The President of the United States Donald Trump accused Barack Obama of breaking the law. And what has the fallout been? Nothing. Nothing's happened. All it's done is distract everyone from what Jeff Sessions and Scott Pruitt are doing.

 

[Tiggsy]

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The Susan Rice story is getting traction from every media outlet on the planet. That gives him a free pass.

Um... I have hardly seen anything on that story outside Fox and Daily Caller. Not that I've been looking but there are not many headlines on most common sources that I have seen. Not sure I buy that one.

Fair point about during the campaign's free advertising but they thought they were covering a side show act. Couldn't turn that down.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Um... I have hardly seen anything on that story outside Fox and Daily Caller. Not that I've been looking but there are not many headlines on most common sources that I have seen. Not sure I buy that one.

Fair point about during the campaign's free advertising but they thought they were covering a side show act. Couldn't turn that down.

Top Story on www.startribune.com which is the Twin Cities newspaper. Not exactly the NY Times or the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.startribune.com/

From the front page.

Obama aide denies using intel to spy on Trump advisers
12:13pm
Susan Rice, the top national security adviser to former President Barack Obama, says it is "absolutely false" that she and other Obama administration officials used intelligence reports to spy on Trump associates for political purposes.