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POTUS 45.61: All Are Welcome to Watch This Circus

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Handyman said:
So there wasnt a quid pro quo...except for the quid pro quo? Must be that 4D Chess Sicatoka thought Trump was always playing.

And yes...I will keep bringing you up Sicatoka since you decided to post in other threads but steer clear of this one for some reason. Whats the matter snowflake...dont want to face the firing squad? Dont worry your friends at NaziSports will still love you if you post here :D
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As long as you don't explicitly use the words "quid pro quo', then it's not a quid pro quo.

That's why it was a "perfect" call.
 
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ticapnews said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🎶 There's just one thing that you need to know / Drumpf said: "Do us a favor, though." 🎶 <a href="https://t.co/ClWLFw0r8Y">pic.twitter.com/ClWLFw0r8Y</a></p>— The Late Show (@colbertlateshow) <a href="https://twitter.com/colbertlateshow/status/1197736716188053504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Funny, I heard that line to the tune of Stop Your Sobbing.

https://youtu.be/EXh2H0s50v0?t=47
 
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Dump called into Fox at 8 this morning.

He's still ranting.
 
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It didn’t go unnoticed that he went down the lower staircase of Air Force one with the White House doctor in tow. I can’t rmeever a single time a president going down the lower staircase in the lower 48.
 
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Heard Michael Steele (who used to lead the RNC) this morning talking about Will Hurd's decision to vote NO to impeachment. His question? Where is your line? What does a President have to do?

Can there be any question what Trump has done is worse than Nixon? I don't think so. That is the consensus I am hearing from most of the pundits I listen to. And can there be any question that if this were Obama that this would all be a foregone conclusion?

So, who exactly is making this a partisan process?
 
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For those who watched the impeachment proceedings (99% of my exposure was via the radio), did the Democrats have any signs behind them like the republicans did? I have seen photos of the ridiculous notes and memes that were behind some of the republican members on the easels.

After the final closing statements yesterday I also got to wondering about something else. At any time do the opposing members on these committees get together and have conversations about the proceedings behind closed doors. Both sides do posture for the cameras, the difference of course being Nunes, Jordan and the other traitors do it by reciting falsehoods and asking nonsensical and misdirected questions, and Schiff, Maloney and the other democrats tended to use facts and legitimate questions. But behind the scenes, off the record, do you think ANY of the republicans will have frank discussions with the majority about what is really going on?
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
For those who watched the impeachment proceedings (99% of my exposure was via the radio), did the Democrats have any signs behind them like the republicans did? I have seen photos of the ridiculous notes and memes that were behind some of the republican members on the easels.

After the final closing statements yesterday I also got to wondering about something else. At any time do the opposing members on these committees get together and have conversations about the proceedings behind closed doors. Both sides do posture for the cameras, the difference of course being Nunes, Jordan and the other traitors do it by reciting falsehoods and asking nonsensical and misdirected questions, and Schiff, Maloney and the other democrats tended to use facts and legitimate questions. But behind the scenes, off the record, do you think ANY of the republicans will have frank discussions with the majority about what is really going on?
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I keep hearing that happens. Not sure if I believe it or not.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
But behind the scenes, off the record, do you think ANY of the republicans will have frank discussions with the majority about what is really going on?
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It used to happen but microphones are ubiquitous and Members are afraid of being caught telling the truth. Some of the really old guys either don't understand the tech or they just don't give a sh-t, so they still talk to each other. McCain would say stuff that would make his constiteunts' hair curl.

It used to be a running joke that if the voters knew what Southern Republican Members really said they wouldn't vote them out, they'd lynch them. But the fact is the new group of Republicans are actually just as much saps as their voters. They were raised on Rush and they literally don't know any better. The GOP built a machine to trap their voters in ignorance but then the ignorant grew up and inherited the machine. The result is the GOP as an unmanned doomsday device, floating through space destroying everything. The mission of death from below is the same but it doesn't serve anything anymore except self-perpetuation.

Now, it is possible the old guard who started the whole game could stop it but that would require admitting they built a cage to keep their voters in, and the kind of person who does that is not the kind of person who repents for the good of the country.

We even have True Believers like Drunky McRapist on the Court, now. We're into the second generation of Roger Ailes' fetal alcohol syndrome babies so the GOP no long has even the vague self-awareness of a petty criminal. It's just an animal, now; hungry and aimless.
 
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Another example of yes, these people vote.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You are excused, because that is not remotely how the electoral college works, or how we define a landslide. <a href="https://t.co/XR2xCbWMXs">https://t.co/XR2xCbWMXs</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1197902836719337474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
And 40% of the country agrees.
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Actually more than that. 40% of the country thinks trump is innocent and everything negative about him is part of a deep-state witchhunt. But even a good number of democrats don't support impeachment. Recent polls are startling to me. At best this whole process won't have a measurable impact on what happens next November. At worst, combined with every illegal act we know the president and the republican machine will attempt, this could blow up in our faces.

Every election someone says "this is the most important election..." Well, in 2020 it is actually true. Our democracy did not face an existential threat to its very continuance in 1996. Or in 2000. Or in 1980. In 2020 it actually does. More so even than in elections in the middle of the 19th century. As uncomfortable as it can be to talk and work politics among friends, family and acquaintances, if you aren't doing it in 2020 you are part of the problem. We have to win this election.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is from Lev Parnas’s attorney you guys. 👀 <a href="https://t.co/44q1fqgUKC">https://t.co/44q1fqgUKC</a></p>— Mimi Rocah (@Mimirocah1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mimirocah1/status/1197860549813587969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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This isn't good news.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/politics/fbi-fisa-russia-investigation/index.html

Washington (CNN)A former FBI lawyer is under criminal investigation after allegedly altering a document related to 2016 surveillance of a Trump campaign adviser, several people briefed on the matter told CNN.
The possibility of a substantive change to an investigative document is likely to fuel accusations from President Donald Trump and his allies that the FBI committed wrongdoing in its investigation of connections between Russian election meddling and the Trump campaign. After CNN first reported on the investigation, the Washington Post reported that the inspector general concluded the alteration did not change the validity of the surveillance application.
The finding is expected to be part of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's review of the FBI's effort to obtain warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act on Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide. Horowitz will release the report next month.
Horowitz turned over evidence on the allegedly altered document to John Durham, the federal prosecutor appointed early this year by Attorney General William Barr to conduct a broad investigation of intelligence gathered for the Russia probe by the CIA and other agencies, including the FBI. The altered document is also at least one focus of Durham's criminal probe.

It's unknown how significant a role the altered document played in the FBI's investigation of Page. The alterations were significant enough to have shifted the document's meaning and came up during a part of Horowitz's FISA review where details were classified, according to the sources. According to the Washington Post, it did not change Horowitz's finding that the FISA application had a legal basis.

Some witnesses who have been interviewed in Horowitz's investigation have said they expect the inspector general to find mistakes in the FBI's handling of the FISA process, but that those mistakes do not undermine the premise for the FBI's investigation.
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The part in bold will not be reported on Fox News or Breitbart or any other Right Wing "News" source.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
This isn't good news.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/21/politics/fbi-fisa-russia-investigation/index.html



The part in bold will not be reported on Fox News or Breitbart or any other Right Wing "News" source.
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Depends on what the alteration was? Did it serve to obscure, or make clearer, evidence and processes? Was it benign or malicious?

Problem is, Barr was given carte Blanche to reclassify anything he wanted, at will. So he can pick and choose, selectively edit, and otherwise portray whatever he has in the worst light possible.

And there's no way to counter or disprove those accusations, cause the underlying documentation is classified. And you know Barr and Trump won't allow it to be declassified. Just like you know how State will give Lyndsey every document and piece of paper they have on Ukraine, Burisma and the Biden's for his little "investigation", while continuing to with old it from the impeachment committee.
 
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SJHovey said:
Until they invent time travel, it will always be true.
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As long as weapons get more powerful and humans get more numerous, it arguably is true.

But I can't think of a time when defeating a specific political ideology was more important in American history other than 1800 (the assurance that we truly could have a peaceful transfer of power) and 1860 (defeating the slavers at the ballot box before defeating them in the battlefield). The third one was 1980, and we blew that one.

Now we're fighting Nazis. Fighting Nazis is pretty important.
 
Kepler said:
As long as weapons get more powerful and humans get more numerous, it arguably is true.

But I can't think of a time when defeating a specific political ideology was more important in American history other than 1800 (the assurance that we truly could have a peaceful transfer of power) and 1860 (defeating the slavers at the ballot box before defeating them in the battlefield). The third one was 1980, and we blew that one.

Now we're fighting Nazis. Fighting Nazis is pretty important.
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I wouldn't put 1980 in there. Sure, in hindsight, but at the time, I don't think anyone could have imagined the magnitude of the consequences that election would have.
 
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