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POTUS 45.58: Admit it, those lights are making you look orange too.

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XM POTUS 124 says this whole thing isn't as ****ing as some have made it, yet there is more there than a big nothing-burger.

Just middle of the road.
 
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And the DNI needs to be able to go to an independent council when issues like this arise. Maguire having to go to the President and the DOJ when THEY are the ones who committed the crime is ridiculous.

Also Schiff is killing this. Intelligence Committee >>>>> Judicial Committee

Yes, he's doing much better than Nadler.
 
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Swalwell is up. He's good. I don't like him necessarily as President, but I think he's a very effective congressman. Maybe someday a senator.

Yeah he is not a great Presidential Candidate but he is perfect in Congress.
 
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Isn't this different though because Chump both committed the initial crime AND put the coverup in motion? I don't recall if Nixon himself personally ordered the bugging of the DNC headquarters but I don't think he did.

There was never any evidence he did that I remember. This is WAY worse.
 
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Krishnamoorthi (D-Illinois) is playing this very smart. He is destroying the argument that this is biased because there is zero evidence the Whistleblower has any known political affiliation and that the IG was a Trump appointee so he also has zero bias against Trump. Now going over the "note taking" for the transcript.

Schiff has these guys so on point it is brilliant!
 
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Uh oh...Nunes decides he wants to pontificate that it isnt their job to Impeach the President. He tells them to do it on the floor of the House.

He knows they are toast...or at least should be.
 
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Krishnamoorthi (D-Illinois) is playing this very smart. He is destroying the argument that this is biased because there is zero evidence the Whistleblower has any known political affiliation and that the IG was a Trump appointee so he also has zero bias against Trump. Now going over the "note taking" for the transcript.

Schiff has these guys so on point it is brilliant!

The media actually did a pretty good job last night cause the "no quid pro quo" argument died off pretty quick and the "yes, there was a quid pro quo and I as a prosecutor would suck at my job if I couldn't prove it with this evidence" argument held up.
 
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The media actually did a pretty good job last night cause the "no quid pro quo" argument died off pretty quick and the "yes, there was a quid pro quo and I as a prosecutor would suck at my job if I couldn't prove it with this evidence" argument held up.

Yeah I posted the article from The National Review saying just that. I was shocked how fast the media jumped on it :eek:

Schiff is using his questions to show exactly how all this works...how the DOJ is corrupt and how the rules seem to not apply to the President because of how it is all set up. Now he is trying to get the acting DNI to admit this should be investigated.

edit: Maguire is doing everything he can to avoid saying it. Schiff is destroying him.
 
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XM POTUS 124 says this whole thing isn't as ****ing as some have made it, yet there is more there than a big nothing-burger.

Just middle of the road.

Be careful. There are several people who aren't morons on that channel. Kepler said it best,
There are plenty who'd take the check to be the Washington Generals. Tweety. Scarborough. Smerconish. There are hundreds of these worms.

If it was Smerconish, he's been so intentionally weaselly on this, he's actually asked whether the investigation on Biden has been conducted yet. Essentially implying Trump has an out if there was a there there. Which is absurd. This is a President who is abusing powers of the office of the presidency to unduly influence an American election to his favor. Trump broke the law concerning how information is classified. Trump covered this up. And yet, all Smerconish cared about was that he remains "neutral".

Smerconish spends more time preening his "centrist" feathers than caring about the incredibly serious crimes the PRESIDENT has committed..


I think anything from Smerconish to Abrams is basically CNN. Abrams so far hasn't been a complete d-ckhead. But all three, Smerconish, Cuomo, and Abrams spend waaaaay too much time informing their listeners that they get attacked from the left AND *gasp* the right. It's hard to take anyone seriously who spends that much time looking in the mirror.

If you want an incredible show, listen to Olivier Knox. He is CSPAN and NPR done right. Julie Mason is pretty good if you remember she's a very proud journalist. She's snarky in all the right ways. The other best show on that channel died with Steele and Ungar.
 
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Nixon didn't order the bugging. He made sure Liddy and his pals were funded and then let them do whatever they thought would work. The problem is that after the Watergate burglars were caught there was a risk of everything being made public. The irony is that if they'd just handled it like a normal case of burglary the Post would never have bothered and there would have been nothing to investigate.

In this case, you have the soon-to-be ex-president breaking the law, ordering others to also break the law AND cover it all up. I understand the Senate Republicans are willing to put up with almost anything, but how many of them would really have a problem with a President Pence administration? As long as they hold the senate in 2020 it doesn't matter who the president is.
 
Re: POTUS 45.58: Admit it, those lights are making you look orange too.

Nixon didn't order the bugging. He made sure Liddy and his pals were funded and then let them do whatever they thought would work. The problem is that after the Watergate burglars were caught there was a risk of everything being made public. The irony is that if they'd just handled it like a normal case of burglary the Post would never have bothered and there would have been nothing to investigate.

In this case, you have the soon-to-be ex-president breaking the law, ordering others to also break the law AND cover it all up. I understand the Senate Republicans are willing to put up with almost anything, but how many of them would really have a problem with a President Pence administration? As long as they hold the senate in 2020 it doesn't matter who the president is.

Yeah Trump made the call and his cronies covered it up.

Maguire is gonna throw a fit tonight and my guess is he will be making the TV rounds a few months from now. He is being a good little soldier and he is being embarrassed over it.

Man Schiff is da man. Nadler and everyone else take note...
 
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I understand the Senate Republicans are willing to put up with almost anything, but how many of them would really have a problem with a President Pence administration?

That's not their problem. They would dump Dump in a second. Their problem is they are terrified of the Dumpies, who will turn on them like rabid skunks if they harm a hair on Der Fuhrer's wig. They cannot be seen to do anything but lick the fat slob's feet.
 
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Take Pence out too. There was Dimwit Donnie's little tirade yesterday "you have to read transcripts of Pence's conversations with Ukraine president too", when he was still thinking his little readout exonerated him.

Also, Barr is as complicit as all hell in this too. From back in May, Kamala Harris at the Mueller Report hearing.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Harris: Has the president or anyone at the WH ever asked or suggested you open an investigation of anyone? Yes or no, please sir...<br><br>Barr: Um...the President or anybody else...<br><br>Harris: Seems you'd remember something like that and be able to tell us... <a href="https://t.co/uZbS9X3wRE">pic.twitter.com/uZbS9X3wRE</a></p>— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) <a href="https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1123657495082360833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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"Hinted?.........Inferred?"
 
Re: POTUS 45.58: Admit it, those lights are making you look orange too.

I expect Maguire to resign tonight. He was thrown to the wolves and used as a human shield. He seems like he takes this seriously and isn't a stooge.
 
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Yeah no GOPer who is up for re-election in the Senate will take the risk.
 
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The narrative now appears to be that he couldn’t have covered this up because he released the transcript.
 
Re: POTUS 45.58: Admit it, those lights are making you look orange too.

The narrative now appears to be that he couldn’t have covered this up because he released the transcript.

LOL

They released it because Schiff found out about the whistleblower and Nancy revved up the impeachment engine. If those two things hadn't of happened no one would know anything.
 
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I expect Maguire to resign tonight. He was thrown to the wolves and used as a human shield. He seems like he takes this seriously and isn't a stooge.

Or get fired...

Man if a GOPer defends this they best hope they never railed against Hillary's server because this is the President doing that with its communications with foreign leaders.

Trump best hope the server is never brought to the public.
 
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LOL

They released it because Schiff found out about the whistleblower and Nancy revved up the impeachment engine. If those two things hadn't of happened no one would know anything.

If things werent bad there wouldnt have been people INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE not only covering up Trump's stupidity but then calling others to underscore how bad it got.
 
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LOL

They released it because Schiff found out about the whistleblower and Nancy revved up the impeachment engine. If those two things hadn't of happened no one would know anything.

Just like if Dems hadn't taken back the House in 2018, we'd have never seen the Mueller Report.
 
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