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POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

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“BREAKING: ProPublica uncovered a secret Facebook group for thousands of current and former Border Patrol agents filled with derogatory posts, including reported jokes about a 16-year-old migrant who died in US custody or sexist images of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.”

https://thehill.com/latino/451166-p...r-border-patrol-agents-filled-with-derogatory
My favorite part:
Another post included an illustration of a smiling President Trump forcing Ocasio-Cortez’s head toward his crotch. The agent who posted the image commented: “That’s right *****es. The masses have spoken and today democracy won.”

This might be the least surprising story of 2019.
 
Abolish. ICE.

The problem is if you banish these employees from being selected for government work with whatever replaces ICE (even for a few years), they're now looking for employment with local police departments either in these areas, or moving across the country to other departments.


But, I agree: abolish ICE.
 
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We also have to reform all these policies. Not just roll back Dump but abolish the whole white nationalist police state.

We have to fumigate DHS, the DOD, the FBI, and local cops. We have to remove all the racists from positions of authority, and that means abolishing the GOP in half the states. We have to end American apartheid and that means abolishing Fox and Hate Radio.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These criticisms aside - isn’t she destroying any claim to serve the interests of women/families by standing by as her father jails young children at the border, fights against women’s reproductive healthcare and chooses to suck up to Kim instead of honor Otto Warmbiers parents? <a href="https://t.co/shAioqI8AO">https://t.co/shAioqI8AO</a></p>— Nicolle Wallace (@NicolleDWallace) <a href="https://twitter.com/NicolleDWallace/status/1145726244824276995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yes, he has children and they're all a chip off the old block.
 
We also have to reform all these policies. Not just roll back Dump but abolish the whole white nationalist police state.

We have to fumigate DHS, the DOD, the FBI, and local cops. We have to remove all the racists from positions of authority, and that means abolishing the GOP. We have to end American apartheid.

Who would you hire in their place?
 
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The problem is if you banish these employees from being selected for government work with whatever replaces ICE (even for a few years), they're now looking for employment with local police departments either in these areas, or moving across the country to other departments.


But, I agree: abolish ICE.

Have you seen who police departments are hiring nowadays? 'Roid raging ex-military types who joined the armed forces of this country because they hoped to be able to shoot at brown people.

In addition to abolishing ICE, there are about 17,900 ( of the approximately 17,985 that exist )other law enforcement agencies that we need to abolish. We need a handful of federal agencies that can handle federal law enforcement, counter-terrorism and intelligence gathering, and each state should have one. That's all. I'd even be willing to keep the overall number of law enforcement officers in each state as it is now (to placate the cops, if I waved my magic wand, I'd reduce the number of cops drastically too), but since they all derive their power and certification from the state, just have them all employed BY the state. One set of rules and policies, one set or training criteria, one central controlling authority in each state.
 
There's a lot of underemployed rational people in this country. I don't think we'd have any problem replacing the gorillas.

I think it’s a lot easier said than done. I believe most police are under collective bargaining so it probably will never happen anyway, even though it should.
 
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There's a lot of underemployed rational people in this country. I don't think we'd have any problem replacing the gorillas.

I think you'd be surprised. Law enforcement, in many areas, struggles to attract candidates. It's not exactly a dream job. You can get killed, you'll probably have to start out working nights, and honestly a sizable percent of the population either hates you or, at best, has zero respect for you.
 
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

The problem is if you banish these employees from being selected for government work with whatever replaces ICE (even for a few years), they're now looking for employment with local police departments either in these areas, or moving across the country to other departments.


But, I agree: abolish ICE.
Abolishing ICE is just a starting point, police reform needs to happen too but I agree with you that these issues are intertwined and one affects the other.
 
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I think you'd be surprised. Law enforcement, in many areas, struggles to attract candidates. It's not exactly a dream job. You can get killed, you'll probably have to start out working nights, and honestly a sizable percent of the population either hates you or, at best, has zero respect for you.

we just need Boston Dynamics to build us robot cops. Like an actual Robocop (without the biological part). They would probably be more compassionate and caring than half the nut jobs that are attracted to the profession.
 
Re: POTUS 45:54: My Polls Are Better Than Your Polls

I think you'd be surprised. Law enforcement, in many areas, struggles to attract candidates. It's not exactly a dream job. You can get killed, you'll probably have to start out working nights, and honestly a sizable percent of the population either hates you or, at best, has zero respect for you.

Part of the reason most people hate cops is that cops can be hateful. Remove the numbskulls and they'll do a lot better with community relations.

Remove knuckledraggers from any job which uses force. The world starts looking a lot better when our public servants aren't just Republicans looking for a license to murder people who don't look like them.
 
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we just need Boston Dynamics to build us robot cops. Like an actual Robocop (without the biological part). They would probably be more compassionate and caring than half the nut jobs that are attracted to the profession.

No thanks. As it is now the .01% still has to fool cops into working for them with conservative ideology and cultural poisoning. With robots they can just program it in.
 
I don't disagree that it's much harder now to hold a civil conversation. But I don't think the fact that it's harder means we shouldn't try. I think we should try more.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've never been persuaded by an argument made that was coupled with personal attacks and insults. Again, I'm not from New York or Boston and maybe that type of arguing is effective there, or elsewhere.

Yes, cause its terrible when racist fukwits take offense when you call them a racist fukwit.
 
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Yes, cause its terrible when racist fukwits take offense when you call them a racist fukwit.

Don't you recognize that they are just economically anxious?

They're the true victims, here.
 
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Yes, cause its terrible when racist fukwits take offense when you call them a racist fukwit.

Here's the problem, when the racist fukwits are the people we've armed with guns as part of their jobs get upset, we and, more importantly the minorities in society, are the ones who suffer an immediate and disproportionate burden of the outcome.
 
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