POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

It wasn't.
I expected his base to push him away from it.
Instead, he latched on hard and drove it home by signing off on it.

You explain the 35% better than anyone.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

Every one of the Dump's ideas has hurt this country.

How is trying to recreate an industrial base a bad idea.
We have folks (as you point out) who'll never be rocket surgeons.
They need jobs or the "basic income" of the GND.
People gotta eat.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

How is trying to recreate an industrial base a bad idea.
We have folks (as you point out) who'll never be rocket surgeons.
They need jobs or the "basic income" of the GND.
People gotta eat.

Could have very easily handled this with green energy jobs. The ones that were ceding to China now (60 Minutes did a big story on China's new electric car company).

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

The ones that were ceding to China now ...

Unlike the ones we've been ceding to the world for the last how-many administrations (Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc)?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

Unlike the ones we've been ceding to the world for the last how-many administrations (Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, etc)?

Uh, huh. Keep believing that. You're Lindsey Graham without the power.

 

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

How is trying to recreate an industrial base a bad idea.
We have folks (as you point out) who'll never be rocket surgeons.
They need jobs or the "basic income" of the GND.
People gotta eat.

That's not how you do it. The US industrial economy is larger than it was in the 70s. Our productivity and output are far greater. But it's all automated. Those jobs for dummies aren't coming back.

We're quickly approaching the point where the average person won't be worth employing. They just won't be worth anything that a machine or a computer can't do better.

That should be the Great Liberation of humanity, but because the rich built an economy based on coercion to labor using starvation as a cudgel, but then covered it up by creating an ideology praising work and drudgery as loyal and honest, now we have a class who thinks if they don't labor they don't have value.

The next great intellectual/cultural revolution will end the normative celebration of forced work. It will recast work as the slavery it is. Most of us won't be able to make that jump but we won't have to since we'll be long dead. The medieval mind couldn't have imagined industrial life, either.

We live in the twilight of a played out worldview.

 

[Tiggsy]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

That's not how you do it. The US industrial economy is larger than it was in the 70s. Our productivity and output are far greater. But it's all automated. Those jobs for dummies aren't coming back.

We're quickly approaching the point where the average person won't be worth employing. They just won't be worth anything that a machine or a computer can't do better.

That should be the Great Liberation of humanity, but because the rich built an economy based on coercion to labor using starvation as a cudgel, but then covered it up by creating an ideology praising work and drudgery as loyal and honest, now we have a class who thinks if they don't labor they don't have value.

The next great intellectual/cultural revolution will end the normative celebration of forced work. It will recast work as the slavery it is. Most of us won't be able to make that jump but we won't have to since we'll be long dead. The medieval mind couldn't have imagined industrial life, either.

We live in the twilight of a played out worldview.

Not all automated. We have plenty of spots at my company to fill for unskilled labor. I believe there are just certain things it will never be cost effective enough to automate. Every place I've worked has always been looking for more labor. You may be right someday, but it won't likely be in my kids' lifetime. Who knows how many more generations before it could get to that point.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

As long as people want custom homes (and not prefab cookie cutters) you'll need electricians and plumbers to make it work on the job site.

And even with self-checkout there's still a person riding herd over those check-outs (yes ... today there is; tomorrow will be different, always is).

But to Kep's point, I like Scott Adams' definition of freedom: Did you have to use an alarm clock today? If you did, you're not free.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

It's telling for us as a country that Jon Stewart again has to come out and campaign for 9/11 first responders.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

You're smarter than this as well. Too bad.

You still think that?

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

Every single project at my job asks how we can automate more. Sorry, your unskilled industrial labor jobs are dying. I am in the generation which will see that labor effectively ended.

I like Scott Adams'

Let me show you my surprised face.

 

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

Not all automated. We have plenty of spots at my company to fill for unskilled labor. I believe there are just certain things it will never be cost effective enough to automate. Every place I've worked has always been looking for more labor. You may be right someday, but it won't likely be in my kids' lifetime. Who knows how many more generations before it could get to that point.

So it seems that your company is not paying enough, then.

We are looking for skilled labor- engineers. Pay them quite a bit, and still have to use imported skill.

But it is true that many of the old school production jobs are automated. Including mining- it takes a lot fewer people to mine coal than it used to.

The core economic problem with MAGA is that people pretend that the old factory jobs will come back, and they wont. We need new factory jobs in new industries- such as solar and wind power. Or batteries. Unlike coal (which is stagnant for demand, declining on labor), those industries are all expanding. A lot.

True that some industries are not changing much, but if they were super common, then the middle class would not be facing stagnant wages for the last few decades. If you want your kids to take one of those jobs you speak of, good luck...

People are going to have to migrate to jobs just like our parents did.

 

[unofan]

As long as people want custom homes (and not prefab cookie cutters) you'll need electricians and plumbers to make it work on the job site.

And even with self-checkout there's still a person riding herd over those check-outs (yes ... today there is; tomorrow will be different, always is).

But to Kep's point, I like Scott Adams' definition of freedom: Did you have to use an alarm clock today? If you did, you're not free.

What a surprise, you defend a president who is a poor person's idea of a rich person, and you quote a dumb person's idea of a profound thinker.

 

[alfablue]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

It's interesting that home building skills are still in high demand. When more and more homes are built in a factory. Which makes it easier to keep skilled labor busy, reducing the requirement of that labor. Even some of the wood can be quickly cut on a CNC system before being nailed together.

Yes, there will always be the need of *some* construction and check out work, but the *need* of it is reducing.

 

[Handyman]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

It's telling for us as a country that Jon Stewart again has to come out and campaign for 9/11 first responders.

He and Denis Leary are the only ones who care...if it was up to the Congressional GOP they would have died at Ground Zero.

 

[aparch]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

That sound you hear is Trump asking his staff if he can do the same thing...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Attention: A <a href="https://twitter.com/Univision?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Univision</a> team, headed by <a href="https://twitter.com/jorgeramosnews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jorgeramosnews</a>, is being arbitrarily detained at the Miraflores Palace in Caracas. They were interviewing <a href="https://twitter.com/NicolasMaduro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NicolasMaduro</a> but he didn't like the questions. Their technical equipment was also confiscated. <a href="https://t.co/c45tB0E4er">https://t.co/c45tB0E4er</a></p>— Univision News (@UnivisionNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/UnivisionNews/status/1100193338634964993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

“BREAKING: The Wall Street Journal is reporting the House Judiciary Committee has evidence of a conversation between Donald Trump and acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker that sounds very much like obstruction of justice.”

https://www.newsandguts.com/wsj-house-investigators-probe-trump-contact-with-matthew-whitaker/

Meanwhile dump is tweeting about dems murdering newborns

 

[bronconick]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One reason House Republicans are citing to oppose the resolution to overturn President Trump's national emergency declaration is they haven't had time to review the bill. It is one page and about 70-80 words: <a href="https://t.co/1BkbT1meKu">https://t.co/1BkbT1meKu</a></p>— Susan Davis (@DaviSusan) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaviSusan/status/1100161926859026434?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Had time to ram a trillion dollar, thousand page tax bill at 3 in the morning, though.

 

[Kepler]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

you'll need electricians and plumbers to make it work on the job site

Those are both skilled positions. Hell, an electrician is way more skilled than what I do, and probably a lot smarter, too.

 

[The Rube]

Re: POTUS 45:49: SNL Sucks. They're the real Collusion. 25th Amendment Them!!!!!!

Those are both skilled positions. Hell, an electrician is way more skilled than what I do, and probably a lot smarter, too.

Them, HVAC...there's an unfair stigma about them. They need skills, and make good money. It's not a glamorous job, though.