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POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
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dave122793
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Michael Cohen to be sentenced today. Meanwhile, Michael Flynn is asking for leniency, partially because his lawyers state that he didn't know it was a crime to lie to the FBI. Makes sense.
Michael Cohen to be sentenced today. Meanwhile, Michael Flynn is asking for leniency, partially because his lawyers state that he didn't know it was a crime to lie to the FBI. Makes sense.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
I was reading that Flynn and the lawyers think that he was tricked into lying. I don't understand the leniency if that's where they're going to go.
I was reading that Flynn and the lawyers think that he was tricked into lying. I don't understand the leniency if that's where they're going to go.
dave122793
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Maybe he was just "tricked" into secretly and illegally negotiating with a hostile foreign power and then "tricked' into lying about it. I'm also sure he was "tricked" into not registering as a foreign agent while representing Turkey's interests during Trump's election campaign. Hey, it could happen to any of us. He's lucky I'm not the judge at his sentencing hearing.
Maybe he was just "tricked" into secretly and illegally negotiating with a hostile foreign power and then "tricked' into lying about it. I'm also sure he was "tricked" into not registering as a foreign agent while representing Turkey's interests during Trump's election campaign. Hey, it could happen to any of us. He's lucky I'm not the judge at his sentencing hearing.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
It feeds the Witch Hunt. I don't like it and if I were the prosecutors I would be ****ed for them saying it.
It feeds the Witch Hunt. I don't like it and if I were the prosecutors I would be ****ed for them saying it.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
That's good police work.
That's good police work.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
The stupid thing about Faux and Drudge deleting their stuff is that it isnt hard to find that stuff even after deleted and NOW it will look ten times worse (whether it should or not) that you deleted it.
Stuff like this is not unlike Trump lying about things when questioned then changing his story when it is proven he lied. The next story he tells is going to look doubly shady. All you are doing is making things worse.
The stupid thing about Faux and Drudge deleting their stuff is that it isnt hard to find that stuff even after deleted and NOW it will look ten times worse (whether it should or not) that you deleted it.
Stuff like this is not unlike Trump lying about things when questioned then changing his story when it is proven he lied. The next story he tells is going to look doubly shady. All you are doing is making things worse.
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Hey he is lucky...if he was Black they probably shoot him
Hey he is lucky...if he was Black they probably shoot him
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Back to here for just a second ... a Drudge tweet-flush is fairly common. Put "Drudge deletes tweets" into Google and you'll see he's done that since at least 2014.
Now the other two (Hannity, Fox News) I have no idea.
Back to here for just a second ... a Drudge tweet-flush is fairly common. Put "Drudge deletes tweets" into Google and you'll see he's done that since at least 2014.
Now the other two (Hannity, Fox News) I have no idea.
dave122793
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Cohen gets 3 years prison time. EDIT: also hit with forfeiture of $500,000, restitution of $1.4 million and a fine of $50,000.
Cohen gets 3 years prison time. EDIT: also hit with forfeiture of $500,000, restitution of $1.4 million and a fine of $50,000.
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French Rage
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Sure the forfeiture and fines are a big hit, but at least he gets room and board free for 3 years. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/michael-cohen-tweet-hillary-clinton/
Sure the forfeiture and fines are a big hit, but at least he gets room and board free for 3 years. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/michael-cohen-tweet-hillary-clinton/
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
In trump's case though, worse to who? People with the ability to think critically and clearly, and with an ounce of ability to discern the truth already KNOW trump is a lying sack of human stool, and is such a pathological liar he'd tell a lie when the truth would actually make him look better.
None of this matters. He isn't being convicted if the democrats in the House decide to impeach, he isn't resigning, and even if it is shown he's committed a 100 felonies, someone will pardon him before he's made to do his first perp walk.
I would give my left testicle -- hell take BOTH of them, I'm too old to have new kids anyway -- if one tenth of the time the news media is spending reporting trump's latest lies would instead be devoted to how climate change is affecting things like hurricanes or wild fires in California, or how real criminal justice reform requires tackling the racism behind the problems, or how the decline of unions has led to the horrible income inequality and how seriously that affects our economic future...
In trump's case though, worse to who? People with the ability to think critically and clearly, and with an ounce of ability to discern the truth already KNOW trump is a lying sack of human stool, and is such a pathological liar he'd tell a lie when the truth would actually make him look better.
None of this matters. He isn't being convicted if the democrats in the House decide to impeach, he isn't resigning, and even if it is shown he's committed a 100 felonies, someone will pardon him before he's made to do his first perp walk.
I would give my left testicle -- hell take BOTH of them, I'm too old to have new kids anyway -- if one tenth of the time the news media is spending reporting trump's latest lies would instead be devoted to how climate change is affecting things like hurricanes or wild fires in California, or how real criminal justice reform requires tackling the racism behind the problems, or how the decline of unions has led to the horrible income inequality and how seriously that affects our economic future...
dave122793
Registered User
Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Lanny Davis, one of Cohen's lawyers: "At the appropriate time, after Mr. Mueller completes his investigation and issues his final report, I look forward to assisting Michael to state publicly all he knows about Mr. Trump – and that includes any appropriate Congressional committee interested."
Lanny Davis, one of Cohen's lawyers: "At the appropriate time, after Mr. Mueller completes his investigation and issues his final report, I look forward to assisting Michael to state publicly all he knows about Mr. Trump – and that includes any appropriate Congressional committee interested."
ScoobyDoo
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
The EPA under Trump (just saw a report today) is scaling back the Clean Water Act. I foolishly think that as we get smarter, science advances, and Engineering gets better that our ability to protect the environment should be increasing instead of decreasing. Who knew?
The EPA under Trump (just saw a report today) is scaling back the Clean Water Act. I foolishly think that as we get smarter, science advances, and Engineering gets better that our ability to protect the environment should be increasing instead of decreasing. Who knew?
aparch
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Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
And the Interior Department wants to cut protections to open up more areas of the west to mining and drilling.
But why not. Those birds are just dummies for living there. Our future generations can see photos of them when they're extinct.
And the Interior Department wants to cut protections to open up more areas of the west to mining and drilling.
But why not. Those birds are just dummies for living there. Our future generations can see photos of them when they're extinct.
Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
The excuses I heard to scale it back were pretty lame- people *claimed" that they had no idea if they could do *something* in a given area.
All that tells me is that certain groups have no decent lawyers, as the environmentalists have lawyers on staff, and have money to sue just to get clarification. This isn't hard, all you need is someone to be specific for ONE case (as that sets a precedent).
But being lazy or stupid, they got under the "greed" skin, and just want to build baby build.
The real sad part is the idea that non-surface water isn't covered, even though there are many cases out there where industrial pollution (accidental OR intentional) has worked it's way into the underground water system. We have one of those chemical plumes west of Ann Arbor, and it's constantly being monitored so that people can keep using their wells without getting sick.
Just as bad, you can pollute a non permanent river, and all of that flows into our waterways when there's enough water. Which happens every single year.
In the end, the tax payer will be on the bill to keep the water clean enough to drink. And it will cost MORE to society than if the pollution was prevented in the first place. But it does mean shareholders will make more money.....
The excuses I heard to scale it back were pretty lame- people *claimed" that they had no idea if they could do *something* in a given area.
All that tells me is that certain groups have no decent lawyers, as the environmentalists have lawyers on staff, and have money to sue just to get clarification. This isn't hard, all you need is someone to be specific for ONE case (as that sets a precedent).
But being lazy or stupid, they got under the "greed" skin, and just want to build baby build.
The real sad part is the idea that non-surface water isn't covered, even though there are many cases out there where industrial pollution (accidental OR intentional) has worked it's way into the underground water system. We have one of those chemical plumes west of Ann Arbor, and it's constantly being monitored so that people can keep using their wells without getting sick.
Just as bad, you can pollute a non permanent river, and all of that flows into our waterways when there's enough water. Which happens every single year.
In the end, the tax payer will be on the bill to keep the water clean enough to drink. And it will cost MORE to society than if the pollution was prevented in the first place. But it does mean shareholders will make more money.....
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: POTUS 45.45: The Wall or a Shut Down. Your Choice Pelosi!!!!!!
Yep. Which is why we need to change our laws so that "shareholders" are not the only stakeholder in a corporation. We give Corporations huge rights and privileges to use and hide behind in the law. With great power should come great responsibility.
Yep. Which is why we need to change our laws so that "shareholders" are not the only stakeholder in a corporation. We give Corporations huge rights and privileges to use and hide behind in the law. With great power should come great responsibility.
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