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POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
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WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
If the world survives the Trump presidency an interesting thing will be trying to determine the biggest whopper of a lie his rubes believed. I truly believe nothing he says is beyond the bounds of believable to the vast majority of the idiots who voted for him. If you don't believe Trump is the worst person a major party ever nominated to be president, let alone even been president, I hope you choose never to procreate. There are already enough idiots in the world right now and we don't need more.
If the world survives the Trump presidency an interesting thing will be trying to determine the biggest whopper of a lie his rubes believed. I truly believe nothing he says is beyond the bounds of believable to the vast majority of the idiots who voted for him. If you don't believe Trump is the worst person a major party ever nominated to be president, let alone even been president, I hope you choose never to procreate. There are already enough idiots in the world right now and we don't need more.
Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Milo's problem is he never shuts up. He is a full on drama queen (meant in all possible ways) and he just cant let anyone get a word in. I actually agree with many of his points (though his trans hatred is pathetic since he just trumpets the things they used to say about Gays) but he is such an awful persona personality wise I just cant support him. He is every *****y Gay Stereotype from Sitcoms you can find...I bet women in New York love him
Milo's problem is he never shuts up. He is a full on drama queen (meant in all possible ways) and he just cant let anyone get a word in. I actually agree with many of his points (though his trans hatred is pathetic since he just trumpets the things they used to say about Gays) but he is such an awful persona personality wise I just cant support him. He is every *****y Gay Stereotype from Sitcoms you can find...I bet women in New York love him
Kepler
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Obviously he's a ******, just like his heroine/muse/mentor Coulter. Lambast him all you like. But there's a kernel to his shtick we should self-examine. It's the same one Maher has. It makes it harder for us to reach people who haven't been down the rationalism conveyor belt because it is easy for right-wing demagogues to misrepresent it as totalitarian. That happens all the time and leaves us shaking our heads: well, this suggests one way in which it actually works in psychology.
Haven't you ever wondered why the right can successfully slander the left as being inherently totalitarian when the core of the left is freedom and self-expression? This is one way how and we should understand it. Remember, even though righty thinkers are lying when they say it, righty everyday people sincerely believe it. It hits a nerve.
Obviously he's a ******, just like his heroine/muse/mentor Coulter. Lambast him all you like. But there's a kernel to his shtick we should self-examine. It's the same one Maher has. It makes it harder for us to reach people who haven't been down the rationalism conveyor belt because it is easy for right-wing demagogues to misrepresent it as totalitarian. That happens all the time and leaves us shaking our heads: well, this suggests one way in which it actually works in psychology.
Haven't you ever wondered why the right can successfully slander the left as being inherently totalitarian when the core of the left is freedom and self-expression? This is one way how and we should understand it. Remember, even though righty thinkers are lying when they say it, righty everyday people sincerely believe it. It hits a nerve.
Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
OK. Right handed hook shot from the scorer's table standing on one foot:
The memory function in the human brain is largely associative and emotive (Trump or someone said this). Aside from confirmation bias, maybe that helps to explain why so many on the Right seem so willing to accept the alternative facts that Trump and his agents keep throwing at us. When they hear a statement which is factually inaccurate but which accurately describes the emotion they associate with that topic, it is not a lie to them; it is absolutely true.
That sounds like simple confirmation bias, but we've seen studies recently which show different fear responses between liberals and conservatives, differences which are tied to their brain function. Maybe their are similar differences in the way people (and groups of people) process new information for memory download.
Airball? Meh . . . I've only got HO, so it was worth the shot.
OK. Right handed hook shot from the scorer's table standing on one foot:
The memory function in the human brain is largely associative and emotive (Trump or someone said this). Aside from confirmation bias, maybe that helps to explain why so many on the Right seem so willing to accept the alternative facts that Trump and his agents keep throwing at us. When they hear a statement which is factually inaccurate but which accurately describes the emotion they associate with that topic, it is not a lie to them; it is absolutely true.
That sounds like simple confirmation bias, but we've seen studies recently which show different fear responses between liberals and conservatives, differences which are tied to their brain function. Maybe their are similar differences in the way people (and groups of people) process new information for memory download.
Airball? Meh . . . I've only got HO, so it was worth the shot.
Spartanforlife4
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Handyman
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Why would you expect they wouldnt be? The only way the PC "worked" is that the people who like him still like him. If you are expecting them to change their mind you might as well quit they wont. They are the mob wife who is SHOCKED her husband who never works a day at a job in his life and has money to burn is actually a cold blooded mafioso.
Kepler,
With most people you can separate the man from the message. Milo doesnt let you do that and whats worse is he is confrontational and still uses ridiculous Breitbart falseflags to try and prove his point. It isnt about the cause with him, it is about trolling and getting under people's skin. That is why he got all giddy after Larry Wilmore told him to "F off" and that is why he trolled the Intelligence guy (talking about how he doesnt have a brain when the dude wasnt even talking to him) so he would do the same.
Milo could be the face of a new movement in politics. Hell if he had the resignation of even Dan Savage (which is very little) he would be well respected and people might listen. Instead he uses the Ann Coulter playbook of trolling and hatred and adds in a little "DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" style Gay stereotype to it making it grating and angry. He is an awful human being.
Why would you expect they wouldnt be? The only way the PC "worked" is that the people who like him still like him. If you are expecting them to change their mind you might as well quit they wont. They are the mob wife who is SHOCKED her husband who never works a day at a job in his life and has money to burn is actually a cold blooded mafioso.
Kepler,
With most people you can separate the man from the message. Milo doesnt let you do that and whats worse is he is confrontational and still uses ridiculous Breitbart falseflags to try and prove his point. It isnt about the cause with him, it is about trolling and getting under people's skin. That is why he got all giddy after Larry Wilmore told him to "F off" and that is why he trolled the Intelligence guy (talking about how he doesnt have a brain when the dude wasnt even talking to him) so he would do the same.
Milo could be the face of a new movement in politics. Hell if he had the resignation of even Dan Savage (which is very little) he would be well respected and people might listen. Instead he uses the Ann Coulter playbook of trolling and hatred and adds in a little "DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" style Gay stereotype to it making it grating and angry. He is an awful human being.
Spartanforlife4
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Devin Nunes cited the age of the Logan Act as a reason why the Flynn story is overblown. Guess we better get started on a new constitution if that's the case.
Devin Nunes cited the age of the Logan Act as a reason why the Flynn story is overblown. Guess we better get started on a new constitution if that's the case.
FlagDUDE08
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FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Woah. Looks like Alex took "film drunk, edit sober" to the next level this weekend.
Woah. Looks like Alex took "film drunk, edit sober" to the next level this weekend.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
LOL. No way our Manchurian SCROTUS signs this, they're going to have to override a veto.
LOL. No way our Manchurian SCROTUS signs this, they're going to have to override a veto.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Near the end of the Nixon presidency the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs were worried about the possibility -- however remote -- that the President may seek to thwart his impending impeachment and trial in the Senate with a military coup. Instructions were issued to the military to only follow orders that came through the proper chains of command. While Nixon hated and feared many in the press, and had at least an unhealthy paranoia of the members of the press he did not outright hate, it is actually timid in comparison to the comments Trump has made, and made repeatedly throughout both his campaign and the short time since taking office. This man is dangerously unhinged, and it comes at a time when congress lacks the fortitude to stand up to him because of that go d d amn ed "r" next to his name. I only hope there is sanity left throughout the chain of command in the military, another institution that I respect a lot less than I did a generation or more ago.
Trump is dangerous my friends. Do not make the arrogant mistake of believing that it can't happen here like it does in other, less stable, or less developed societies. Civilizations do fail. We have never yet seen one that hasn't. I'm not the first person to write or speak those words. But you better believe they are accurate. Trump is marching this nation down a path from which it will not recover. If you don't believe that you will still be as dead as those of us that see him for the danger he really is.
Near the end of the Nixon presidency the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs were worried about the possibility -- however remote -- that the President may seek to thwart his impending impeachment and trial in the Senate with a military coup. Instructions were issued to the military to only follow orders that came through the proper chains of command. While Nixon hated and feared many in the press, and had at least an unhealthy paranoia of the members of the press he did not outright hate, it is actually timid in comparison to the comments Trump has made, and made repeatedly throughout both his campaign and the short time since taking office. This man is dangerously unhinged, and it comes at a time when congress lacks the fortitude to stand up to him because of that go d d amn ed "r" next to his name. I only hope there is sanity left throughout the chain of command in the military, another institution that I respect a lot less than I did a generation or more ago.
Trump is dangerous my friends. Do not make the arrogant mistake of believing that it can't happen here like it does in other, less stable, or less developed societies. Civilizations do fail. We have never yet seen one that hasn't. I'm not the first person to write or speak those words. But you better believe they are accurate. Trump is marching this nation down a path from which it will not recover. If you don't believe that you will still be as dead as those of us that see him for the danger he really is.
The Sicatoka
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
I'm interested in Kep's take on this part of the interview (because conservatives can't do comedy/parody/humor, right
).
These two guys ended by agreeing on the importance of the First Amendment. Then again, they both make a living by using it to PO people. And that's just fine.
Honestly, I cringed but pressed play anyway on YouTube and watched the 11 minute interview. I'm glad I did.
I'm interested in Kep's take on this part of the interview (because conservatives can't do comedy/parody/humor, right
).These two guys ended by agreeing on the importance of the First Amendment. Then again, they both make a living by using it to PO people. And that's just fine.
Honestly, I cringed but pressed play anyway on YouTube and watched the 11 minute interview. I'm glad I did.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Catholics have herp-a-derps, too. Not too far from my backyard, even.
To give you an idea, this quote isn't even half the nutjobbery on display in the article:
Couldn't decide if I should put it in the Religion thread, or the SCROTUS thread, but since this group thinks Trump can make their desire for theocracy a reality, I figured it belonged here.
Catholics have herp-a-derps, too. Not too far from my backyard, even.
To give you an idea, this quote isn't even half the nutjobbery on display in the article:
Couldn't decide if I should put it in the Religion thread, or the SCROTUS thread, but since this group thinks Trump can make their desire for theocracy a reality, I figured it belonged here.
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I'm offended! (there is one sorta bad slang word in the following video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceS_jkKjIgo
I'm interested in Kep's take on this part of the interview (because conservatives can't do comedy/parody/humor, right
These two guys ended by agreeing on the importance of the First Amendment. Then again, they both make a living by using it to PO people. And that's just fine.
Honestly, I cringed but pressed play anyway on YouTube and watched the 11 minute interview. I'm glad I did.
I'm offended! (there is one sorta bad slang word in the following video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceS_jkKjIgo
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Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/perspectives/PE100/PE198/RAND_PE198.pdf
http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/perspectives/PE100/PE198/RAND_PE198.pdf
busterman62
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?
Trump is very dangerous, but IMO the risk is not coup, it is election fraud. The GOP has already been quite overt in voter suppression tactics at the margins, enough to turn plenty of district and statewide elections in states with GOP leg majorities, governors, and AGs. That sort of corruption is self-generating, as further suppression leads to larger majorities which in turn lead to further suppression.
So far we have escaped that at the national level, but we have three problems which while not new have been worsening:
1. The EOP is now controlled by people who have no respect for democratic rule or checks and balances. Not just Trump but Trump's people are committed fascists.
2. Congress is in the control of cynical opportunists who see a once-in-a-lifetime chance to warp the American system in their favor. Parties always push, but this party is both by nature a machine for wringing wealth form the middle class and passing it to their puppet-masters, while skimming a healthy percentage for themselves. They won't stand up for principle.
3. A non-trivial percentage of the electorate -- around 29% -- will excuse anything with an (R) and demonize anything with a (D). They will go happily into feudal serfdom for their masters as long as their resentment is played upon. There is a huge media establishment catering to these people's prejudice and paranoia, so they are unreachable by fact or sanity.
This very thread shows how it will go down, with apologists braying laughter at concern or falsely equivocating, if not just flat out denying the reality. The right has been deprived of oxygen by its gatekeepers for so long brain damage has set in.
Trump is very dangerous, but IMO the risk is not coup, it is election fraud. The GOP has already been quite overt in voter suppression tactics at the margins, enough to turn plenty of district and statewide elections in states with GOP leg majorities, governors, and AGs. That sort of corruption is self-generating, as further suppression leads to larger majorities which in turn lead to further suppression.
So far we have escaped that at the national level, but we have three problems which while not new have been worsening:
1. The EOP is now controlled by people who have no respect for democratic rule or checks and balances. Not just Trump but Trump's people are committed fascists.
2. Congress is in the control of cynical opportunists who see a once-in-a-lifetime chance to warp the American system in their favor. Parties always push, but this party is both by nature a machine for wringing wealth form the middle class and passing it to their puppet-masters, while skimming a healthy percentage for themselves. They won't stand up for principle.
3. A non-trivial percentage of the electorate -- around 29% -- will excuse anything with an (R) and demonize anything with a (D). They will go happily into feudal serfdom for their masters as long as their resentment is played upon. There is a huge media establishment catering to these people's prejudice and paranoia, so they are unreachable by fact or sanity.
This very thread shows how it will go down, with apologists braying laughter at concern or falsely equivocating, if not just flat out denying the reality. The right has been deprived of oxygen by its gatekeepers for so long brain damage has set in.
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