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POTUS 45.4 - What's a Battle?

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dxmnkd316 said:
Manafort-Flynn-Tillerson-The Golden Showers Dossier (don't forget the oil company hidden sale)-Assange-DNC hacks-Bayrock and Trump Soho-Carter Page

When are we going to wake up and realize this is an unmistakable pattern?
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51% of the country already saw it on Election Day.

Will the rest figure it out? Don't bet on it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Flynn has resigned. :eek:
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From Twitter:

Don't forget to take your Pizzagate as-shole son with you.
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It's not over yet:

Now we have a big new piece of the puzzle. On Monday January 30th, President Trump fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates for refusing to enforce his immigration executive order. Only days earlier, Yates and what the Post describes as a "senior career national security official" told White House Counsel Donald McGahn that Michael Flynn has lied about his communications with the Russian Ambassador and that he was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail.

It's not clear what if anything the White House did with that information. A story published by Politico minutes before the Post story says the White House is acting searching for Flynn's replacement.

What the Post article also reveals is that Flynn's deception became a topic of active concern in the final days of the Obama administration. What they knew was that Flynn's public claims about his contacts with the Russian Ambassador were false and suspected that he had misled at least incoming Vice President Pence. Yates, CIA Director John Brennan and DNI James Clapper discussed the matter repeatedly. They recommended briefing the new President so he could decide himself how to deal with the situation. But this: "FBI Director James B. Comey initially opposed notification, citing concerns that it could complicate the agency’s investigation."

When Obama left office on January 20th, Clapper and Brennan resigned their positions, leaving only Yates in place in her caretaker capacity. After Sean Spicer again vouched for Flynn's account on the 23rd, the matter took on renewed urgency and now Comey agreed the White House should be briefed.

It's not clear precisely when Yates and the intelligence official delivered their message to Donald McGahn in the White House. It had to be between January 23rd and 30th, though the Post story suggests it was closer to the latter date.

What is now clear is that the Trump White House has known about Flynn's deception for at least two weeks.
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Remember: it's not the sin, it's the cover up. It will be interesting what the Trump team has to say about this in the coming days. There should absolutely be an independent investigation, but given how King Donald doesn't understand checks and balances, that will go over well.
 
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Kepler said:
From Twitter:



It's not over yet:



Remember: it's not the sin, it's the cover up. It will be interesting what the Trump team has to say about this in the coming days. There should absolutely be an independent investigation, but given how King Donald doesn't understand checks and balances, that will go over well.
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Yeah, this could get quite ugly, quite fast for this administration. The water has been chummed with the tattered corpse of Flynn's career. The media smells it and is only going to send them into a frenzy. Especially the fact that the Obama administration told them in January. That's some deadly material there.
 
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Kepler said:
From Twitter:



It's not over yet:



Remember: it's not the sin, it's the cover up. It will be interesting what the Trump team has to say about this in the coming days. There should absolutely be an independent investigation, but given how King Donald doesn't understand checks and balances, that will go over well.
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dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah, this could get quite ugly, quite fast for this administration. The water has been chummed with the tattered corpse of Flynn's career. The media smells it and is only going to send them into a frenzy. Especially the fact that the Obama administration told them in January. That's some deadly material there.
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This will be looked into before or after the Constitutional crisis that is don inc taking money from foreign governments or the contract issue that don inc has with the US government which clearly states that he has to void the contract being president?

Or when they address the total lack of security when discussing international crisis' in a public restaurant? Somehow, the thread of what *might* be on the Clinton server is so much worse than the ACTUAL breach of security that this administration is. Holy crap.

Seriously- facts don't matter here. This is going to take a long time, and IMHO, will end up in Congress. Hopefully with a guilty verdict.
 
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alfablue said:
This is going to take a long time, and IMHO, will end up in Congress. Hopefully with a guilty verdict.
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Not with this Congress. Remember how they went crazy when Susan Rice said "Video"? In fact they went so nuts they forgot the President had said Terrorism in his first press statement about Benghazi (we all know Mitch did). Here we have the Vice President of the United States lying on the Sunday News Shows. Susan Rice didn't lie. Will we have a Russia committee in Congress? No we will not. We also in addition to the Vice President of the United States lying on the Sunday News Shows we have a Senior Trump Policy Advisor telling the Sunday News Shows (all of them. he was literally on all (4) of them) that the President's power as it pertains to immigration is absolute.

You heard Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell on this? No. They'll both be on Morning Joe tomorrow. I bet they sharpen their skates before the interview.
 
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The second Trump starts costing the GOP money is the second articles of impeachment will be drawn up. Pence can, and will, sign everything put in front of him the same as Trump. He will also lead a far more stable government than Trump, which is good for business.

Trump was a useful idiot for the GOP and more importantly their donors.
 
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This Republican Congress will do nothing. They have only the agenda of grabbing money for their paymasters. They literally do not have any commitment to anything but their own selfish interests. They have zero interest in, or even comprehension of, national non-partisan interests or their responsibility to strengthening our small r republican institutions.
 
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Kepler said:
This Republican Congress will do nothing. Their have only the agenda of grabbing money for their paymasters. They literally do not have any commitment to anything but their own selfish interests. They have zero interest in, or even comprehension of, national non-partisan interests or their responsibility to strengthening our small r republican institutions.
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Susan Rice. "Video". Benghazi hearings all they way to the Secretary of State being grilled by Congress for 10 hours.

Vice President Pence. "Russia". Silence.
 
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And all of that is why the administration will never see this as "ugly."

They will just point the finger at the opposition party- the facts.

Not that I could lose any more respect for the r party (and it's lower case intentionally) but at least Democrats made Obama work for the ACA. Funny, now, that it was labeled as an example of bad law, when it was actually Reps and Senators doing their actual job, and making sure it was good legislation regardless of where it came from. r's are so very partisan, well... it's no real surprise.
 
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Hey everyone. Michael Flynn didn't lie.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/michael-flynn-resign-son-flynn-jr-responds-234993

Michael Flynn’s son, who was fired from Donald Trump’s transition for spreading conspiracy theories on social media, said Tuesday that a “disinformation campaign” was responsible for his father’s ouster as national security adviser.

“The disinformation campaign against my father won #AmericaFirst #USA #Flynn #FlynnResignation,” Michael Flynn Jr., who formerly served as a top adviser to his father, wrote on Twitter.
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It was the media again. Those fffing liars took down another Patriot.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It was the media again. Those fffing liars took down another Patriot.
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Of course it was.

The Republican Congress has no interest in any oversight of the Trump administration. None. Sure, opposing parties usually scrutinize administrations more aggressively. But it's rare to have this level of complete refusal. Again, only three or four hours before Flynn resigned in disgrace, Nunes put forward an aggressive defense of Flynn and said nothing was wrong at all.
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And who is Nunes? Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

"Malevolence tempered by ineptitude."
 
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alfablue said:
Not that I could lose any more respect for the r party (and it's lower case intentionally)
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alfa,

Just as there is a difference between democrats and Democrats, and libertarians and Libertarians, there is a difference between republicans and Republicans.

Please don't besmirch small-r republicans (those who support a republic form of government) with party-first-mindset hack Republicans. Same goes for the other upper/lower differences.
 
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Quelle surprise.

Appearing in Letters to The Editors of the New York Times for 14 Feb 2017

To the Editor:

Charles M. Blow (column, nytimes.com, Feb. 9) describes Donald Trump’s constant need “to grind the opposition underfoot.” As mental health professionals, we share Mr. Blow’s concern.

Silence from the country’s mental health organizations has been due to a self-imposed dictum about evaluating public figures (the American Psychiatric Association’s 1973 Goldwater Rule). But this silence has resulted in a failure to lend our expertise to worried journalists and members of Congress at this critical time. We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer.

Mr. Trump’s speech and actions demonstrate an inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions. His words and behavior suggest a profound inability to empathize. Individuals with these traits distort reality to suit their psychological state, attacking facts and those who convey them (journalists, scientists).

In a powerful leader, these attacks are likely to increase, as his personal myth of greatness appears to be confirmed. We believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president.

Lance Dodes, M.D.

Joseph Schachter, M.D., Ph.D.

Susan Radant, Ph.D.

Judith Schachter, M.D.

Jules Kerman, M.D., Ph.D

Jeffrey Seitelman, M.D., Ph.D.

Henry Friedman, M.D.

Babak Roshanaei-Moghaddam, MD

David Cooper, Ph.D.

Dena Sorbo, LCSW, BCD

Joseph Reppen, Ph.D.

Ernest Wallwork, Ph.D.

Judith E. Vida, M.D.

Richard Reichbart, J.D., Ph.D.

Joseph Abrahams, M.D.

Leslie Schweitzer-Miller, M.D.

Cheryl Y. Goodrich, Ph.D.

Lourdes Henares-Levy, M.D.

Alexandra Rolde, M.D.

Dr. med. Helen Schoenhals Hart

Eva D. Papiasvili, Ph.D.

Mali Mann, M.D.

Phyllis Tyson, Ph.D.

Era A. Loewenstein, Ph.D.

Marianna Adler, Ph.D.

Henry Nunberg, M.D.

Marc R. Hirsch, Ph.D.

Lora Heims Tessman, Ph.D.

Monisha Nayar-Akhtar, Ph.D.

Victoria Schreiber, M.A., L.M.S.W.

Penny M Freedman, Ph.D.

Merton A. Shill, JD. LLM., PhD.

Helen K. Gediman, Ph.D.

Michael P. Kowitt, Ph.D.

Leonard Glass, M.D.
 
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Kepler said:
This Republican Congress will do nothing. Their have only the agenda of grabbing money for their paymasters. They literally do not have any commitment to anything but their own selfish interests. They have zero interest in, or even comprehension of, national non-partisan interests or their responsibility to strengthening our small r republican institutions.
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Exactly...they have no reason to act. Not to mention, half the country probably doesnt even get why this is wrong.

Don will get us into a War soon...cant impeach a President if American Lives are being lost abroad. The only thing the GOP loves close to as much as money is caskets draped with flags.

Over the next couple months more of Trump's team will get in hot water legally or will oppose him and they will be gone too. Power will be consolidated to a select few.
 
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