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POTUS 45.39: Dick Pictures for Everyone!!!!!!!

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The fact that poll after poll after poll shows that the vast majority of the people who voted for trump would do so again, and do so enthusiastically, tells the real story of the trump voter. They weren't just rubes and dupes hoping (take your pick) for the famous pivot, or that he's just blustering, or that he will really drain the swamp, or that a businessman will know how to put America to work, or that he's that rarest of "billionaires" that actually cares about the working people of the land. They were and are bigots and other small minded people who either truly don't care about the suffering of the many "others" or worse, take delight in it and are hoping for a separate America, one white, and one some other shade.
And the ones that wouldn't vote for him again are the ones the Dems need to convince in the next prez election. These are the people that swung the last election.
 
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Trump is historically bad, but it's not just him. He was and is supported by the GOP for a reason. That party has been selling itself on fear then stiffing the lower and middle classes since Reagan.

Bzzzzt. Since Joe McCarthy.
 
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And the ones that wouldn't vote for him again are the ones the Dems need to convince in the next prez election. These are the people that swung the last election.

If the Dems need to "convince" them, then they're still Trump supporters.
 
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Incorrect. They were anti-Hill. Small, but very distinct, difference.

then, maybe. If, as you say, they supported Trump then, but will not for 2020, why do Dems have to "convince" them? If they need to be convinced to not vote for Trump, they're still Trump supporters.
 
then, maybe. If, as you say, they supported Trump then, but will not for 2020, why do Dems have to "convince" them? If they need to be convinced to not vote for Trump, they're still Trump supporters.

Being anti-Hillary doesn't mean they are Trump supporters...then or now. It's not a black and white issue.
It is possible to not like either of them.
 
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Being anti-Hillary doesn't mean they are Trump supporters...then or now. It's not a black and white issue.
It is possible to not like either of them.

In 2018, that’s no longer true. You are either for or against fascism. This is a simple choice. It might not be easy to vote for Democrats for many people, but it’s a simple choice.
 
In 2018, that’s no longer true. You are either for or against fascism. This is a simple choice. It might not be easy to vote for Democrats for many people, but it’s a simple choice.

I don't believe that simply because I still believe some still just don't care.
 
In 2018, that’s no longer true. You are either for or against fascism. This is a simple choice. It might not be easy to vote for Democrats for many people, but it’s a simple choice.

I recall frothing at the mouth from the right on socialism while BHO was occupying the Big Chair. We all survived.

You guys need to chill. Nobody's been sent to reeducation centers, the press is still free, dissent is still tolerated and the economy is still doing well.

We haven't had a president like tD for almost 200 years. The nation survived then and it will continue to survive if we let it.
 
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That you still compare the two tells me more about you than your voting record.

Your second paragraph is just un****ingreal. Dissent is still tolerated? Tolerated? God you’re blind sometimes.
 
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If you didn’t realize how bad trump was and the existential threat he posed, then you’re a moron. There is no hindsight here. You were warned repeatedly.

Yeah but there is a lot of "Boy Who Cried Wolf" with this stuff. The difference is real politicians are smart enough not to pull the crap we know they want to but Trump is not a politician nor is he smart enough to not do what he wants to do. I can see why people bought the act and ignored the warnings. All the people who gave me crap for being so gloom and doom about it have admitted they were wrong. Even my Republican friends hate Trump at this point.

There is a reason why polling numbers are dire right now. Trump is an anchor for a lot of GOPers out there hoping to stay in office.
 
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No i didn't.
Not voting for Hillary or not voting at all is not supporting Trump...it's not caring.
That isn't support.

Yes, you did. The original point is all about people who did vote for Trump in 2016, but supposedly will not in 2020.

If Dems need to "convince" these people not to vote for Trump again, as Brent asserts, then they're not on the fence, they're "not caring", they're still Trump supporters.
 
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I recall frothing at the mouth from the right on socialism while BHO was occupying the Big Chair. We all survived.

You guys need to chill. Nobody's been sent to reeducation centers, the press is still free, dissent is still tolerated and the economy is still doing well.

We haven't had a president like tD for almost 200 years. The nation survived then and it will continue to survive if we let it.

Yep. Just boiling the frog. That you won't stand against it means you're ok with letting it happen. You don't "let" it survive, you take the steps needed to make sure it survives. Good to see you're not willing to. You deserve what you get.

Nazi Germany didn't become Nazi Germany overnight, you know. It happened cause a lot of "good Germans" decided to sit that one out, or cautioned their fellow citizens not to get too worried, just chill.

Appeaser.
 
Yes, you did. The original point is all about people who did vote for Trump in 2016, but supposedly will not in 2020.

If Dems need to "convince" these people not to vote for Trump again, as Brent asserts, then they're not on the fence, they're "not caring", they're still Trump supporters.

Not necessarily. They could now hate Trump...but still not want to vote for a Dem. They may only vote if Trump is primaried.
Again...for me that's not supporting Trump.
 
That you still compare the two tells me more about you than your voting record.

Your second paragraph is just un****ingreal. Dissent is still tolerated? Tolerated? God you’re blind sometimes.

Well I suppose if I was a conservative speaker at Berkeley...

You can still demonstrate in front of the White House without having the cops hit you with a firehose or billy club. You can picket anywhere. You can still write a letter to the editor criticizing anyone.

You're right of free speech is still protected by the Constitution. You may not be treated nicely by your neighbors for exercising your right, but you won't be hauled off to jail.

It's the PC police that are ruining things. People are swooning over some remark that offends them. We (you) need to be more tolerant.
 
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Well I suppose if I was a conservative speaker at Berkeley...

You can still demonstrate in front of the White House without having the cops hit you with a firehose or billy club. You can picket anywhere. You can still write a letter to the editor criticizing anyone.

You're right of free speech is still protected by the Constitution. You may not be treated nicely by your neighbors for exercising your right, but you won't be hauled off to jail.

It's the PC police that are ruining things. People are swooning over some remark that offends them. We (you) need to be more tolerant.

*Perfect* smokey eye, Joe. Perfect smokey eye. A *COMPLIMENT* got the right in a dither. Let's see you be more tolerant.


By the way, you're still cool with ripping children from their mothers and letting the government steal them away in the middle of the night with no paper trail, right?
 
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Being anti-Hillary doesn't mean they are Trump supporters...then or now. It's not a black and white issue.
It is possible to not like either of them.

This. As I have said before, if the Dems give someone who is not like Hillary....easy win for the Dems.
 
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