POTUS 45.38: Truth! Justice! And the American Way!!

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I have no words...

I bet Drew and the rest will complain about how unfair this was.

The hello kitty pencil case...”no age limit on the second amendment.”

 

[Handyman]

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I know this was discussed the other day but I wanted to post this article because I feel it breaks down the situation quite well and it backs up everything we said back when he made the plea to the Russian Hackers in 2016.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indictment shows Russians tried to hack Clinton after Trump publicly asked them to <a href="https://t.co/4Fv1Dn2j2V">https://t.co/4Fv1Dn2j2V</a> <a href="https://t.co/EMeP0kZrin">pic.twitter.com/EMeP0kZrin</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1018111144911925248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Next up emails are going to start leaking. My guess is Donny Jr. is sweating bullets.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No sitting on the floor, no hugging your siblings, and it’s best not to cry: Migrant children describe life in detention <a href="https://t.co/x5IVDl5LCL">https://t.co/x5IVDl5LCL</a></p>— The New York Times (@nytimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1018156940915040257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I say we dont let Trump back in until he fixes the problem he and his morons caused.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Something was bugging me about the September '16 hack of the DNC analytics (beyond that it would give an opponent much of what they'd need to figure out who to target & with what). <br><br>What was it? A couple weeks later, the Trump campaign abruptly & massively shifted their ad buys. <a href="https://t.co/PmiVINexHH">pic.twitter.com/PmiVINexHH</a></p>— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) <a href="https://twitter.com/resisterhood/status/1018221264077541378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[rufus]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Something was bugging me about the September '16 hack of the DNC analytics (beyond that it would give an opponent much of what they'd need to figure out who to target & with what). <br><br>What was it? A couple weeks later, the Trump campaign abruptly & massively shifted their ad buys. <a href="https://t.co/PmiVINexHH">pic.twitter.com/PmiVINexHH</a></p>— 𝙹𝚞𝚕𝚒𝚎 (@resisterhood) <a href="https://twitter.com/resisterhood/status/1018221264077541378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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But...………………………………...no collusion.

 

[burd]

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The GOP is busy claiming there is no proof its people were involved in the hacking or coverup, even though there does not appear to be any question at this point that the purpose of the hacking was to hurt Clinton's campaign. Maybe no GOPers were complicit (and I think they were), but I hope that doesn't distract people from asking themselves why Russia wanted Trump to win.

That point should not be lost.

 

[The Rube]

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The GOP is busy claiming there is no proof its people were involved in the hacking or coverup, even though there does not appear to be any question at this point that the purpose of the hacking was to hurt Clinton's campaign. Maybe no GOPers were complicit (and I think they were), but I hope that doesn't distract people from asking themselves why Russia wanted Trump to win.

That point should not be lost.

I still stand by my opinion that Russia simply didn't want Hillary to win. That Trump became the R candidate, that was just a huge bonus for Russia. Russia wanted the US to turn into chaos. Well, with Trump, that turned into chaos on steroids.

 

[Rover]

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I still stand by my opinion that Russia simply didn't want Hillary to win. That Trump became the R candidate, that was just a huge bonus for Russia. Russia wanted the US to turn into chaos. Well, with Trump, that turned into chaos on steroids.

Yeah....I guess that's one view of it. But if I call a press conference and say "boy it would be great is someone would rob the bank on Main St and send me the money" and then the next day the bank on Main St gets robbed by some people I've previously been in contact with, and then several months later the money from that robbery made its way into my bank account, somehow I think the cops would want to have a chat with me. And saying "oh well, the timing is pure coincidence, you can trust me" wouldn't be enough for them to close their investigation.

 

[The Rube]

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Yeah....I guess that's one view of it. But if I call a press conference and say "boy it would be great is someone would rob the bank on Main St and send me the money" and then the next day the bank on Main St gets robbed by some people I've previously been in contact with, and then several months later the money from that robbery made its way into my bank account, somehow I think the cops would want to have a chat with me. And saying "oh well, the timing is pure coincidence, you can trust me" wouldn't be enough for them to close their investigation.

Don't get me wrong. Once Trump was the official candidate, Russia was like "F YEAH!!!!!!!! We are so rolling with this sh*!"

 

[jerphisch]

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I still stand by my opinion that Russia simply didn't want Hillary to win. That Trump became the R candidate, that was just a huge bonus for Russia. Russia wanted the US to turn into chaos. Well, with Trump, that turned into chaos on steroids.

Uh huh, what's your explanation for why nearly the entire group of high ranking people from the Trump campaign was in contact with these Russians, usually about very specific things like hacked emails?

 

[The Rube]

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Uh huh, what's your explanation for why nearly the entire group of high ranking people from the Trump campaign was in contact with these Russians, usually about very specific things like hacked emails?

Once Trump was looking to be the candidate....boom.

Not difficult to understand. This was the gift that kept on giving.

 

[The Rube]

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Russia: Let's f up US politics. First get rid of Hill.
Trump: I'm running for Prez.
Russia: Hold on....this just got reallllllllly good. Let's help him out.

 

[aparch]

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Russia: Let's f up US politics. First get rid of Hill.
Trump: I'm running for Prez.
Russia: Hold on....this just got reallllllllly good. Let's help him out.

Russia is in the long game. There have been ties to Trump using Russian sources for financing, Don Jr has admitted as much. The New York Mag has a great long form article that put the pieces together.

Do I think Trump is a secret KGB agent? Oh, Christ no. But someone, somewhere in Russia has kompromat on Trump. Trump surrounded himself with politically connected people friendly to today's FSB and SVR.

If Trump and Putin had Venn diagrams for their connections, and you plotted these diagrams each year over the course of the last thirty years, they would slowly converge onto each other, eventually having a noticeable overlap. In fact, Russian media (Russia1, RT) was pulling for Trump before he had officially entered the GOP race.



What really grinds my gears is the obstruction the GOP has thrown regarding foreign influence over US politics. The GOP members are in such lockstep celebrating having the presidency, control of the house, and control of the senate, that they don't care how it happened. How much kompromat is on members of the GOP? And, a group of GOP headed to meet with Russian officials a week ago, and NO ONE GIVES A SH** about it?!? Especially when they're using Russian talking points now.




Hearing conservative radio and FOX News whine like they're still the victim and a minority party, while they're in control also grinds my gears, but that's another thread.

 

[jerphisch]

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Once Trump was looking to be the candidate....boom.

Not difficult to understand. This was the gift that kept on giving.

If you're saying this is all a one way street from the Russians, which is what it sounds like, it is incredibly difficult to understand. You have to be willing to ignore an overwhelming amount of evidence showing otherwise to believe that.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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If you're saying this is all a one way street from the Russians, which is what it sounds like, it is incredibly difficult to understand. You have to be willing to ignore an overwhelming amount of evidence showing otherwise to believe that.

It's the centrists way.

 

[The Rube]

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If you're saying this is all a one way street from the Russians, which is what it sounds like, it is incredibly difficult to understand. You have to be willing to ignore an overwhelming amount of evidence showing otherwise to believe that.

It's not a one way street. Once Trump ran, and Russians realized the gift they got, they prob offered help. Trump, being Trump, said "Ok, help me out." Then all the Russians laughed at the stupid American.

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nearly 300 billboards like this one have gone up around Helsinki ahead of the Trump-Putin summit. <a href="https://t.co/tT47PMcwBI">pic.twitter.com/tT47PMcwBI</a></p>— Robert Reich (@RBReich) <a href="https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1018670239863586817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[dxmnkd316]

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Uh huh, what's your explanation for why nearly the entire group of high ranking people from the Trump campaign was in contact with these Russians, usually about very specific things like hacked emails?

The phrase “willing suspension of disbelief “ comes to mind.

 

[The Rube]

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The phrase “willing suspension of disbelief “ comes to mind.

You know that I agree that Russians colluded, right? That they DID influence the election? Oh, wait, I'm not a total lib, so apparently I'm in the wrong. *shrug*

 

[dxmnkd316]

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You know that I agree that Russians colluded, right? That they DID influence the election? Oh, wait, I'm not a total lib, so apparently I'm in the wrong. *shrug*

It takes two to tango buckaroo