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POTUS 45.34: Spy Gate. No Spy. No Gate.

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Just a reminder. This is what people voted for in 2016. And they're happy about it. Don't ever forget that.
 
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When all else fails, whip out your ss.com membership card. I've heard that even worked at Turkish prisons back in the day.

Just don't commit if they drill you on Hakstol. You never know which side they're on.

I just brought out that "other" business card during that "incident" in Istanbul. You know, the one:


The Sicatoka
Kommissar of Skulduggery
The Vast Fighting Hawks Conspiracy
"If you only knew ... "


Yeah. Hawks. Reprints are in. Pick yours up. ;)

Mentioning Istanbul, how'd you come away from that debacle? The bey I got was a Flyers fan so between the calling card and that I caught a break.
 
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Just a reminder. This is what people voted for in 2016. And they're happy about it. Don't ever forget that.

As bad as things have been at times in our country, I have never lived in a time this bad and with this much potential to be dangerous. We are as polarized as we have ever been, especially when one stops to consider we should be a better informed and more sophisticated consumer of news in 2018 than we were in say, 1860. A sizeable chunk of our population believes nothing reported in the mainstream press about the president. NOTHING. They are hopelessly deluded. That's what worries me the most. It's like trying to explain anything at all about math to someone who is absolutely convinced that 2 times 4 equals 7789.9, and nothing you show or tell them will convince them 2 times 4 equals 8. Where do you even begin?
 
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I doubt it was just Republicans.

Sure as sh-t wasn't liberals, or Democrats.

But he did capture the hearts of a lot of Generally Angry people who were mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.

Hopefully those people will now react against him as the Establishment.
 
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Might be his most ridiculous pardon yet. I've never seen a President use his pardon authority in this manner.

He's a POS and the Presidential Pardon Power should be rescinded. Others used it for crass purposes but Sh-tler is not surprisingly leading the league in grossness.
 
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Sure as sh-t wasn't liberals, or Democrats.

But he did capture the hearts of a lot of Generally Angry people who were mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.

Hopefully those people will now react against him as the Establishment.

Yeah, I get that part. But, 53% of white women are Republicans? Really? Or is it just that 53% of white women who VOTED are Republican. I guess that could be it.
 
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Yeah, I get that part. But, 53% of white women are Republicans? Really? Or is it just that 53% of white women who VOTED are Republican. I guess that could be it.

47% of white women identified as Republican in 2016.

WM .61 (.65 WM without a college degree; .54 WM with a college degree)
WW .47 (.51 WM without a college degree; .41 WW with a college degree)

Basically, ignorant white people are Republican. Everybody else is Democratic.

But there are a lot of ignorant white people.

It would be interesting if those cross-tabs drove down one level further by age, likely:

.75 ignorant old white men
.55 ignorant young white men

.65 educated old white men
.45 educated young white men

.60 ignorant old white women
.40 ignorant young white women

.50 educated old white women
.30 educated young white women

In 40 years that gives us:

.55 ignorant white men
.45 educated white men
.40 ignorant white women
.30 educated white women

which is manageable, considering whites will then be just 35 of the population.
 
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As bad as things have been at times in our country, I have never lived in a time this bad and with this much potential to be dangerous. We are as polarized as we have ever been, especially when one stops to consider we should be a better informed and more sophisticated consumer of news in 2018 than we were in say, 1860. A sizeable chunk of our population believes nothing reported in the mainstream press about the president. NOTHING. They are hopelessly deluded. That's what worries me the most. It's like trying to explain anything at all about math to someone who is absolutely convinced that 2 times 4 equals 7789.9, and nothing you show or tell them will convince them 2 times 4 equals 8. Where do you even begin?

I think in the last 25 years or whatever people’s world/perspective has completely changed. It says a lot about our society that we spend more time reading about celebrities than important issues. At some point people need to get back in the real world. Much like you I’m not that bullish right now on our future, but think our problems are much deeper than Trump or people voting republican.
 
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I think in the last 25 years or whatever people’s world/perspective has completely changed. It says a lot about our society that we spend more time reading about celebrities than important issues.

This has always been true, Drew.
 
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I would say we're in the middle of the worst two generations this country has ever produced (Silent Generation, Baby Boomers) having the votes to put likeminded bigots and people who'd like to get back to 1950 on social issues in power. If the left continues to sit out elections, these people will punch above their weight for the foreseeable future. If they don't they could end their disastrous reign starting in November as more liberal millennials are now the largest generation out there and Gen X is fairly liberal as well.
 
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I would say we're in the middle of the worst two generations this country has ever produced (Silent Generation, Baby Boomers) having the votes to put likeminded bigots and people who'd like to get back to 1950 on social issues in power. If the left continues to sit out elections, these people will punch above their weight for the foreseeable future. If they don't they could end their disastrous reign starting in November as more liberal millennials are now the largest generation out there and Gen X is fairly liberal as well.

Keep in mind the boomers were not adults in the 50s and have no reason to want to return there. None of my boomer friends would think of wishing such a thing. That is precisely what many of us revolted against. It is one thing to suggest that boomers have dropped the ball in holding off big money interests during the change from a manufacturing economy to a service economy, but to suggest that we want to return to the social climate of the 50s is unsupported as far as I can see, biased as I admittedly am.
 
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Same. Last time I was there I was embarrassed of GW. This is worse.

Last year in Germany I sat next to a German woman on my flight from AMS to Munich. We had an interesting discussion about trump. I told her both I and most of my friends despise the man. She was mostly curious about how it happened and what the feelings are about him. Super nice about it.

I think I apologized to her lol.

But that was all before this trade war bull****. Things that actually affect people.
 
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Last year in Germany I sat next to a German woman on my flight from AMS to Munich. We had an interesting discussion about trump. I told her both I and most of my friends despise the man. She was mostly curious about how it happened and what the feelings are about him. Super nice about it.

I think I apologized to her lol.

But that was all before this trade war bull****. Things that actually affect people.

I remember flying to Italy during Dubya. The woman near us asked if we were American and we got to talking about the GOP. I started to apologize for the US being Stumble Baby but she waved it off and said, "don't worry... we have the stupid people in our country, too."

So it's understood that Dumpy isn't America, he's 'Murica, and while those people suck there's global comprehension that those people suck everywhere.
 
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