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POTUS 45.32: QAnon Will Help Show the Truth

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ScoobyDoo said:
Sadly, this and the lies will mean nothing come election day.
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Nope, because to the Trumpeters: they still have their guns, the gays aren't manhandling them in the men's room, those liberal twats haven't gotten any new foreigners in the country, we're gonna build that d*mn wall no matter what, they got their extra $.80 per paycheck thanks to Paul Ryan, and their kids can work for the proposed coal mines opening in every national forest thanks to Scott Pruitt.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
What we didn't know, another lie, was that The Best People actually meant they were a sycophant to Trump.

Sadly, this and the lies will mean nothing come election day.
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Speaking of, the Frank Rich piece in NYMag about the New York's establishment's coddling of Dump in the 70s as a way to suck up to Roy Cohn sounds amazing. S. I. Newhouse, George Steinbrenner, Chuck Shumer, Alan Dershowitz, Ed Meese, Bill Buckley, William Safire, Cardinal Spellman, the Gambino crime syndicate, and even poor sweet Fred Friendly suckling at the teat in order to get their various gross deals done.
 
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aparch said:
Nope, because to the Trumpeters: they still have their guns, the gays aren't manhandling them in the men's room, those liberal twats haven't gotten any new foreigners in the country, we're gonna build that d*mn wall no matter what, they got their extra $.80 per paycheck thanks to Paul Ryan, and their kids can work for the proposed coal mines opening in every national forest thanks to Scott Pruitt.
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All that was a ruse. Do you realize that Trump and the Senate have appointed not only Gorsuch, but ~15 appeals Court Judges to lifetime appointments? That was the gambit Turtle Boy ran and it worked.

You take that accomplishment and the accomplishment of stealing another 13 trillion dollars from the middle class and the poor and he might be (no he is) the most successful Republican President since Reagan.

It's no wonder the Republicans want to fellate the guy every chance they get. Their #1 and #2 goals have been met in spades. He's accomplished more for their cause than Bill Clinton and Barack Obama combined did for Democrats.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Been around for a while and makes total sense.
But it could come out that trump ordered 100 abortions and his supporters would still love him
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I agree up to a point. If it turns out he's paid for an abortion he might actually lose about 10 of them. :D
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
All that was a ruse. Do you realize that Trump and the Senate have appointed not only Gorsuch, but ~15 appeals Court Judges to lifetime appointments? That was the gambit Turtle Boy ran and it worked.

You take that accomplishment and the accomplishment of stealing another 13 trillion dollars from the middle class and the poor and he might be (no he is) the most successful Republican President since Reagan.

It's no wonder the Republicans want to fellate the guy every chance they get. Their #1 and #2 goals have been met in spades. He's accomplished more for their cause than Bill Clinton and Barack Obama combined did for Democrats.
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They've done a lot of damage but the Great Wheel never stops turning. We will have many chances to repair much of that damage, and the insane excesses of the GOP may finally lead to the backlash that could overthrow the entire structure that has been weighing America down since the 80s.

Sure, he's been successful at stealing wealth for the rich and perverting democracy. He's brought us closer to the end state wet dream of the Republicans: a full scale fascist state completely controlled by the powerful at the expense of everyone else. But to some extent that happens whenever these sick f-cks get any power, at any level. The "virtue" of Dump is he is so obvious and so repellent that he may finally wake people up to the existential danger of the modern Republican party. I'm not saying wake Republicans up. You can see from the Cafe that otherwise intelligent and circumspect -- in a word, "conservative" -- people have lost the ability to reason buried under so many layers of denial and rationalization and sheer peevish hatred of the liberal strawman they have built themselves. But it may wake up everybody not trapped in that Sunken Place.

Together we have the numbers to reduce the GOP to a regional party -- a repeat of the Federalist and Whig withering.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Been around for a while and makes total sense.
But it could come out that trump ordered 100 abortions and his supporters would still love him
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A majority of Republicans (68.7%) surveyed in Trump Country (Florida, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania) think the president exaggerates or intentionally lies — but they don't care.

https://www.axios.com/poll-most-rep...822-4a6e7fd9-e80a-47ef-892c-d8bfd2a760c6.html
 
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Kepler said:
They've done a lot of damage but the Great Wheel never stops turning. We will have many chances to repair much of that damage, and the insane excesses of the GOP may finally lead to the backlash that could overthrow the entire structure that has been weighing America down since the 80s.

Sure, he's been successful at stealing wealth for the rich and perverting democracy. He's brought us closer to the end state wet dream of the Republicans: a full scale fascist state completely controlled by the powerful at the expense of everyone else. But to some extent that happens whenever these sick f-cks get any power, at any level. The "virtue" of Dump is he is so obvious and so repellent that he may finally wake people up to the existential danger of the modern Republican party. I'm not saying wake Republicans up. You can see from the Cafe that otherwise intelligent and circumspect -- in a word, "conservative" -- people have lost the ability to reason buried under so many layers of denial and rationalization and sheer peevish hatred of the liberal strawman they have built themselves. But it may wake up everybody not trapped in that Sunken Place.

Together we have the numbers to reduce the GOP to a regional party -- a repeat of the Federalist and Whig withering.
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You going to fix 30 trillion dollars, and Citizens United? They've got the Courts gummed up for the next 50 years. We're not getting the 30 trillion back.
 
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Kepler said:
They've done a lot of damage but the Great Wheel never stops turning. We will have many chances to repair much of that damage, and the insane excesses of the GOP may finally lead to the backlash that could overthrow the entire structure that has been weighing America down since the 80s.
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Yeah, but Obama had that chance and didn't do chit. No single payer, no Iraq War weasels or banksters thrown in jail for their crimes, a stimulus package way too small leading to an anemic economic recovery, very small tax increase on the rich, a watered down set of regulations for the banksters, etc.

Democrats nibble around the edges of enacting Republican friendly regulatory legislation(the kind that Drew likes), and never actually bother to govern like liberal Democrats. They're spineless and neutered from the get-go, cause they know that brent and Sic will be excoriating them endlessly for whatever it is they do, so they try to keep their heads down and choose the safest blandest way possible, and nothing gets fixed.

My view being, if Republicans are gonna attack you anyway for whatever you do, then at least do something that's gonna make a difference.
 
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rufus said:
Yeah, but Obama had that chance and didn't do chit. No single payer, no Iraq War weasels or banksters thrown in jail for their crimes, a stimulus package way too small leading to an anemic economic recovery, very small tax increase on the rich, a watered down set of regulations for the banksters, etc.

Democrats nibble around the edges of enacting Republican friendly regulatory legislation(the kind that Drew likes), and never actually bother to govern like liberal Democrats. They're spineless and neutered from the get-go, cause they know that brent and Sic will be excoriating them endlessly for whatever it is they do, so they try to keep their heads down and choose the safest blandest way possible, and nothing gets fixed.

My view being, if Republicans are gonna attack you anyway for whatever you do, then at least do something that's gonna make a difference.
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You're only partially right. You blame the Democrats' failure to act on being spineless and neutered from the get-go. That's not the reason. The reason is that all of our federally elected officials, whether Republican or Democrat, are either in the 1% themselves, or owe their position of power to those who are in the 1%. I've stated it here repeatedly. Everyone who is in the 1% likes being there. It's nice, and they don't want to do anything to change that. Doesn't matter whether you are a D or an R.
 
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SJHovey said:
You're only partially right. You blame the Democrats' failure to act on being spineless and neutered from the get-go. That's not the reason. The reason is that all of our federally elected officials, whether Republican or Democrat, are either in the 1% themselves, or owe their position of power to those who are in the 1%. I've stated it here repeatedly. Everyone who is in the 1% likes being there. It's nice, and they don't want to do anything to change that. Doesn't matter whether you are a D or an R.
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There are exceptions, but there is also truth to that. Plutocracy is a bug with the Democrats and the mission statement of the Republicans. The Democratic party is deeply co-opted by the 1% cancer we need to root out to restore America. But the GOP is the vote-harvesting division of the 1%. The GOP is literally nothing else but a marketing tool of the 1% used to cajole people into slashing their own throats.
 
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SJHovey said:
You're only partially right. You blame the Democrats' failure to act on being spineless and neutered from the get-go. That's not the reason. The reason is that all of our federally elected officials, whether Republican or Democrat, are either in the 1% themselves, or owe their position of power to those who are in the 1%. I've stated it here repeatedly. Everyone who is in the 1% likes being there. It's nice, and they don't want to do anything to change that. Doesn't matter whether you are a D or an R.
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The spirit behind what youre claiming isn't correct.

It is true that both Ds and Rs are 1%ers on average themselves. But that doesn't mean Ds don't push for legislation to improve the lives of the average and poorer citizens. Look at Obama's background and community service...I fully believe that his rationale for Obamacare was to get poorer citizens healthcare and do not buy it was to make the rich richer. And Obamacare and rescuing the economy was a full slate of work during the D years after 2008. Today's Ellison, Klobachar, and Franken? Just a sample of MN 1%ers (or close enough) who who work for the poor.
 
Kepler said:
There are exceptions, but there is also truth to that. Plutocracy is a bug with the Democrats and the mission statement of the Republicans. The Democratic party is deeply co-opted by the 1% cancer we need to root out to restore America. But the GOP is the vote-harvesting division of the 1%. The GOP is literally nothing else but a marketing tool of the 1% used to cajole people into slashing their own throats.
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How many members of Congress would vote for a balanced budget right now? I doubt you would have to take your shoes off to count them. I agree with your diagnosis but think the solution is a third party that represents the interests of average Americans(whatever that is.)
 
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Drew S. said:
How many members of Congress would vote for a balanced budget right now? I doubt you would have to take your shoes off to count them. I agree with your diagnosis but think the solution is a third party that represents the interests of average Americans(whatever that is.)
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rotflmao

You want a balanced budget? Then tell the Plutocrats to give back the 30 trillion they've stolen. BOOM. Balanced.
 
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Drew S. said:
How many members of Congress would vote for a balanced budget right now? I doubt you would have to take your shoes off to count them. I agree with your diagnosis but think the solution is a third party that represents the interests of average Americans(whatever that is.)
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All of them, depending on how you balanced it.
 
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Drew S. said:
How many members of Congress would vote for a balanced budget right now?
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The corporate sector will have to grow 45% to make up for lost revenues in the new tax law...this when US GDP annual growth is about 2%. Not one D voted for it.
 
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