POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

[joecct]

16,847,084 > 13,168,222

That margin, as you well know, came courtesy of 2 over the top blue states in California and New York. Flyover did not feel the love.

But, as Les says, let's look forward to the 2018 midterms and the 2020 Presidential. May we live in interesting times.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

I am more of a pragmatist than a party person so I can't wrap my brain around blindly following any party platform. (putting me at a disadvantage to begin with). I cannot understand how intelligent people aren't able to extrapolate what the outcomes will be with the current screwing of the population that most supports him. I keep asking this question and no one will answer me- how the heck do people explain their acceptance of this to their children? THe adults can be willfully blind and pretend things aren't happening but kids don't have the automatic rejection built into adult bias. How do you explain to your kid it is OK for a grown up to say what he says? How do you explain to a kid that he claims to be Christian and then does all the things they would be chastised if they even considered.

This is like watching Stockholm Syndrome for a whole country. Or probably more apt- watching a person in an abusive relationship making excuses or normalizing their partner beating them. Oh, he didn't mean it. You don't understand, he is stressed. He knows what is best for me. I don't believe in divorce...

I always knew tRump was a big skank. Being from the East Coast- He's hit the news regularly since I was in my last yr of HS/beginning college. I have been continually amazed at what people are willing to forget and despite decades of him being the biggest a55hole there is, I still haven't learned to get over it. Knowing he was a jerk I gave him up for a lost cause but the thing that has been devastating has been the people who I respected being willing to look the other way, fall in line, or actively defend the worst of the worst. How do these people live with themselves? Mourning the loss of negotiation, compromise, intelligent debate and morality.

Easy. Cause his very existence, the things he does, and the people who support him, pizz liberals off. And that's the only thing that matters.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

FIrst- this doesn't explain how they can excuse this to their kids. I really am curious about that. Past the politics the man is an abomination of a human being.

I am over the whole He WON! thing. What I don't get is how supposedly intelligent people, ones who want to achieve what is good for their constituents and have claimed moral high ground, seem so willing to abdicate all responsibility. Big business is going to be more than OK but a lot of those red states with rural populations who believed his schtick are getting royally screwed. How on earth do they not see it? They have the worst of everything, rely on Fed $$ and now they won't be getting them. Healthcare in most red states is abominable when compared to the blue states. That is propped up with the funding that will be cut. How do they not see it?

Who is they? Congress people? I only assume this cause you wrote "what's best for their constituents".

The flaw in the argument is, you assume they care about their constituents. Unless their constituent is worth a billion dollars, and is willing to give some of that billion to them, no, they don't care at all.

 

[jerphisch]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

That margin, as you well know, came courtesy of 2 over the top blue states in California and New York. Flyover did not feel the love.

But, as Les says, let's look forward to the 2018 midterms and the 2020 Presidential. May we live in interesting times.

Just stop, Hillary won 34-23 if you want to break it down by state etc.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

My feeling is that Trump is the perfect reflection of our population. He's 100% the president we deserve. We have a lot of lazy, unintelligent people and Trump is the natural result. Hillary and the dems deserve a lot of credit in his election as well. They decided she was to be the president no matter what ordinary people wanted and that paved the way for his election.

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So the people who voted for Hillary, three million-some more than voted for Trump, aren't "ordinary people" Tell us then, just what are they?

yeah, lazy and unintelligent, that is an apt description for many in America.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

That margin, as you well know, came courtesy of 2 over the top blue states in California and New York. Flyover did not feel the love.
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Flyover is not "America", no matter how earnestly you dirt-stained rugged individualist common folk believe

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

Trump is the least racist person you know. Just ask him.

 

[Drew S.]

So the people who voted for Hillary, three million-some more than voted for Trump, aren't "ordinary people" Tell us then, just what are they?

yeah, lazy and unintelligent, that is an apt description for many in America.

Have you met people from other countries? The ones I know are much harder working than the Americans I know. There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough but don’t have much interest in what is happening. Perhaps Trump has changed that. It’s unfortunate it has taken something like him being president to have that happen though.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

Have you met people from other countries? The ones I know are much harder working than the Americans I know. There are a lot of people who are intelligent enough but don’t have much interest in what is happening. Perhaps Trump has changed that. It’s unfortunate it has taken something like him being president to have that happen though.

Totally flew over your head.

And answer the frikkin' question. If Hillary voters aren't "ordinary people", then what are they? Quit talkin' down to them, and disrepectin' them.

 

[Drew S.]

Totally flew over your head.

And answer the frikkin' question. If Hillary voters aren't "ordinary people", then what are they? Quit talkin' down to them, and disrepectin' them.

You’re missing the bigger point. Never in a million years should people have had to pick between Trump and Hillary. That is where the problem was. The big thing you and others have going for you is from now thru eternity you can claim how much better things would have been if she won, and there is obviously no way anyone can disprove it. She wasn’t the answer to our problems. China walked all over Obama and would have done the same with her.

 

[rufus]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

You're right, people never should have had to choose between Trump and Hillary. Thank you, Republican primary voters.

And since you still haven't grasped the point I was trying to make, yes, I'm calling you lazy and unintelligent. Too lazy to even vote or learn the issues, and we can all see your intelligence right here.

Again, if Hillary voters aren't ordinary people, than what are they?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

If you go back and read again, I'm pretty sure Drew was referring to voters who aren't part of the Democratic Party brass. Which would be the vast majority of people who voted in the primaries.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

So, I'm not an ordinary person. Interesting.

 

[French Rage]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

Which would be the vast majority of people who voted in the primaries.

To which I repeat, 16,847,084 > 13,168,222.

 

[Drew S.]

So, I'm not an ordinary person. Interesting.

You’re extraordinary

 

[Drew S.]

If you go back and read again, I'm pretty sure Drew was referring to voters who aren't part of the Democratic Party brass. Which would be the vast majority of people who voted in the primaries.

I’m referring more to the fact that Biden and likely others were discouraged from running.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

I’m referring more to the fact that Biden and likely others were discouraged from running.

Biden was grieving; he gets the benefit of the doubt on being "pressured" not to run.

Not sure who else you're thinking of. More likely a case of any serious challengers not feeling like taking on Hillary. You could argue that was a mistake, given that she was handily defeated by Obama in 2008, and then nearly defeated by a 74 year-old cranky, male, Jewish socialist in 2016, but by the time anyone knew it would be that close, it was too late to enter the race.

 

[trixR4kids]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

I’m referring more to the fact that Biden and likely others were discouraged from running.

Probably but it ultimately doesn't matter, they can run if they want to. I don't think the primaries were rigged in such a way that it guaranteed her victory or whatever, I just don't think (even as a Bernie supporter) that she had much competition that go around. The bigger issue with the DWS stuff was how it affected the state level races down the ballot.

 

[Drew S.]

Biden was grieving; he gets the benefit of the doubt on being "pressured" not to run.

Not sure who else you're thinking of. More likely a case of any serious challengers not feeling like taking on Hillary. You could argue that was a mistake, given that she was handily defeated by Obama in 2008, and then nearly defeated by a 74 year-old cranky, male, Jewish socialist in 2016, but by the time anyone knew it would be that close, it was too late to enter the race.

Maybe Deval Patrick? I would assume anyone who put out feelers was strongly discouraged from running.

 

[geezer]

Re: POTUS 45:26 - One million tweets DC!

It all still seems beside the point to me. Whether or not "Flyover people are not real Americans" or "Hillary voters are not real Americans", Trump has not earned our devotion by virtue of having an impressive title. He is our servant. He is not an emperor. We can criticize, object, protest, and remove him from his posting if he shows himself incapable of serving us as a conscientious servant. He has shown himself to be incapable by repeatedly jeopardizing our well-being in order to feed his petty vanity. Why would anyone still support him keeping the job (besides the knuckleheads in congress who are clearly motivated by their own greed for $$$power$$$; you guys on here don't have anything tangible invested). He is the servant of the public. But he hasn't even started on fulfilling that duty. It's been a year.
I guess I don't expect an answer. I've been asking people why they still stick up for him keeping an important job which he can't actually do at all, and the answer has come down to "but Hillary..." as if that has anything to do with it.