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POTUS 45.25: Oh Jesus, What Now

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When Obama won I accepted the results both times and moved on with my life.

And he was never under appearance or investigation of colluding with an enemy to win. You’d have stroked out if he had been
 
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What is the end game here? Are you trying to get Trump kicked out? Maybe vote again?

The End Game should be to get to the bottom of the influence the Russians had or tired to have in our election. So that we prevent it in the future.

That's not a hard end game.

If that takes down dump in the process, then so be it. He's stated in the past that he admires putin, who is an authoritarian leader who ALSO makes HUGE money ruling the country. We've already seen the very, very likely financial corruption for this president (which I'm not sure why that ALSO is so overlooked), and he wants to have far more absolute power, like his buddy vlad.

Given the total lack of respect he has for the office, I don't see it that bad that he goes down.

If people want to start a fight over that, so be it. But IMHO, it's pretty clear that people who support an authoritarian leader who takes a lot of money from the government is very much on the wrong side of the great American experiment. And that's not even considering the problems with how he treats other people- encouraging others to do the same. If we have a real, physical, fight over that, I know who is going to lose. How many people are willing to die so that our dictator can make loads of cash? How many people are willing to die so that we bully women and minorities back into submission? Let them.
 
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When Obama won I accepted the results both times and moved on with my life.

And all of those "Impeach Obama" stickers meant nothing. Or the "Lock Her Up" posters. Nothing at all.

Or the constant questions of where he was born.

yea, people accepted it and moved on.

And if dump didn't collude with russians, then he's welcome (with no support) to stay. This is a serious crime that could have been committed, so lets not lose sight of that.
 
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And he was never under appearance or investigation of colluding with an enemy to win. You’d have stroked out if he had been

There was that whole birth certificate thing, though. Which plenty of Reich-wingers swallowed hook, line, and sinker, and many still do, as evidenced by Frauddy88's earlier post.
 
And all of those "Impeach Obama" stickers meant nothing. Or the "Lock Her Up" posters. Nothing at all.

Or the constant questions of where he was born.

yea, people accepted it and moved on.

And if dump didn't collude with russians, then he's welcome (with no support) to stay. This is a serious crime that could have been committed, so lets not lose sight of that.

I was only speaking for myself.
 
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Oh good Lord. Another argument that Dump is playing 8-dimensional chess, or whatever. :rolleyes:

Hardly. If Trump was playing multi-dimensional chess, it would go over the head of both his base and the base across the aisle.

That's why he gets the response he gets. He knows what buttons to push with the base of both parties. Because notwithstanding the silver spoon he was born with, he's basically a rube.
 
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The principle of respecting the will of the voters is the same though.

So should respecting the law and the sovereignty of this country. The situations are very different between this guy and President Obama. Other than people questioning where he was born, he was never caught up in any thing that could be interference in an election by a foreign country.

When the candidate messes with the election, consequences should be there. Just ask Nixon.

Then there's the general disgust that we are letting people be outright bigots, the president is likely corrupt in getting more money for himself, and .... I could go on, but this guy is very different than all of the previous ones. If you don't find that troubling, that's interesting.
 
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If Trump colluded with Russia to win the election he belongs in a prison cell. The charge being Treason. Anybody who disagrees with this prefers to support party (in this case the Republicans) over country.
 
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2 p.m.

The White House is offering a rebuttal to sexual misconduct allegations involving President Donald Trump.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders had promised that the White House would provide a list of eyewitnesses and evidence to exonerate Trump.

Nearly 24 hours later, it sent over a rebuttal of just two of the accounts, one that Trump groped a woman on a plane in the 1970s, the other that he behaved inappropriately in a beauty pageant dressing room.

But both simply cited news reports quoting eyewitnesses who vouched for Trump’s behavior.

Several of Trump’s accusers have resurfaced their accusations against the president amid a rising tide sexual misconduct claims that have cost a number of powerful men positions of prominence in entertainment, journalism and politics.

Update on Trump's sexual harassment issues from Huckleberry.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...c636f076c76_story.html?utm_term=.db9f29b2b660
 
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The principle of respecting the will of the voters is the same though.

Except we arent saying he isnt the President or he should go away because he is a Republican and we dont like them. We are saying if he broke laws to get there he should be punished. We are saying that we want to know if Russia influenced things and how. If he and his staff didnt overtly try and help them influence things then he is fine (on that charge anyways) but we still need to know.

Obama had to sit through a decade of people saying he wasnt a real American and he stole the Presidency because he had a Muslim sounding name and looked like a slave not one of their owners. Hell the entire Trump phenomenon (not to mention the Tea Party along with the rise of the New Reich) are backlash to Maliq Al-Liberalov being elected. The Will of the People died right then.

And you cant compare the two...in one case we are questioning whether another country tried to cause problems (something everyone in the know seems to accept) and in the other 37% of the country didnt think a Black Man could be born in Hawaii should be able to have a job let alone be President. Then an entire political party embraced it and still does.
 
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That is amazing. I can't believe he hasn't deleted that Tweet.

Lumpy is as dumb as they come. Poor widdle snowflake needs bodyguards everywhere he goes, too.

Nah he will play it up on his show like he meant to do this to mess with the libruls!!!!!
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/us/nathan-mathis-roy-moore.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Heartbreaking story.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364507-wh-denies-trump-made-sexist-attack-on-gillibrand

And as predicted.

The White House on Tuesday denied that President Trump launched a sexist attack on Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) when he said she “would do anything” for a campaign contribution.

“There is no way that is sexist at all,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters.

Instead, Sanders said the president was accusing Gillibrand of being “controlled by contributions” and hammering home his pledge to “drain the swamp” in Washington.

“I think that the president is very obvious,” she said. “This is the same sentiment the president has expressed many times before when he has exposed the corruption of the entire political system.”

The spokesperson said the president does not owe the senator an apology if his words were interpreted to have a sexist meaning.

"I think only if your mind is in the gutter you would have read it that way, so no," she said.
 
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Nah he will play it up on his show like he meant to do this to mess with the libruls!!!!!

Of course. When you are in the entertainment business, it doesn't matter if people are praising you, insulting you, mocking you or begging for more. The only thing that hurts is when they stop talking about you.
 
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Of course. When you are in the entertainment business, it doesn't matter if people are praising you, insulting you, mocking you or begging for more. The only thing that hurts is when they stop talking about you.

What's the cliche about Rush? His lovers listen for 5 minutes, his haters listen for 15 minutes?

The way to deal with the Echo Chamber is to put the whole thing on ignore. Stop talking about them, stop running their clips. If you're a politician stop taking their questions. Stop lending them any legitimacy.

Give up on their viewers and listeners. They are already dead. They are never coming back to reality.

Ignore is your friend.
 
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