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POTUS 45.22 - The Genius of Donald Trump

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I grew up in Omaha and live in Des Moines. Stop acting like you speak for all of us.


Ouch.

Have you ever seen a hill?

Outside of a river valley, that is.


:p
 
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I actually think Kep is right on this one. It's one of the reasons we get to frequently see them on tv with a dumb look on their face asking one another "what just happened?"


Exactly.
 
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Bob Leonard is the resident LOC* talking points regurgitator** in Pella, IA. His story bio says Robert Leonard is an anthropologist and hosts a public affairs program for KNIA/KRLS radio in Knoxville/Pella, Iowa.

He lives in Iowa and sees much of what the article trix posted says.

This is a good, short read on why what coastal mass media rails about just doesn't matter in Iowa and other places that turned red:
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion/guest-commentary/article181300286.html

From the KC article:

Trump called the Las Vegas shooting a “horrific mass murder” and an “act of pure evil.” Democrats blame the guns and want to take yours away.

Trump honored the heroes of Las Vegas, including the police officers and other first responders. Democrats elevate thugs and view our protectors in blue with disdain.

Trump quotes scripture. Democrats ridicule those who do.

Trump stresses unity. Democrats divide American society into victims and oppressors.

Trump says, “We love our country.” Obama went on an international apology tour.

Trump says, “We cherish the sacred dignity of every human life.” Democrats murder babies.

Trump says, “We believe in strong families.” Democratic policies pull them apart.

Trump says, “We are proud of our history.” Democrats tear down monuments.

Trump says, “We respect our great American flag.” Democrats take a knee.


See, it's crap like this that really ****es me off. I grew up in Iowa and have lived in the midwest my entire life. I'm a Democrat, most of my friends are Democrats, and I can promise you that we don't think like this at all. The conservatives in flyover states like Iowa have been brainwashed by Faux News to believe that all Democrats want to take your guns, hate religion, and kill your babies. It's freaking ridiculous. The "coastal elites" aren't the only ones with the problem here, it's also the fact that conservatives in Iowa and other flyover states are unable to think for themselves and recognize what their real problems are and the countries real problems are. The media they consume has rotted their critical thinking skills. I've seen it first hand with my retired dad in Iowa, he consumes Faux News all day long and it's completely changed the way he thinks and sees other people. It's really sad.
 
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I'm not speaking for anyone.
I'm observing that in general Flyover and Coasters don't understand each other.
And can you imagine how hard it is to try to straddle both worlds. Saw it all the time when I worked for the ND Legislature in the 1980's and dealt with lobbyists. Flyover kids who went east to get that Ivy education, only to return home. It was for family reasons, I was told. Safe neighborhoods. Cheap housing. Close to elderly relatives. But, of course, even with that Ivy degree they never were really accepted by or treated as equals by the Coasties. They were just that novelty, a friend/roommate from "what midwestern state" who was nice, but just didn't have the network in NYC that could benefit them.
 
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I've seen it first hand with my retired dad in Iowa, he consumes Faux News all day long and it's completely changed the way he thinks and sees other people. It's really sad.


My dad is the same. He was a life long Dem and now is a Faux junkie.

I consider him lost and don't even bother. At least my mom cancels his vote.


Speaking of Faux, I tune in every once in a while to see what they're spewing and Hannity last night was predictably skewering Mueller.

Hannity is a traitor. Plain and simple.

I know this isn't a revelation, but I want to rip that flag lapel from his coat.
 
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But, of course, even with that Ivy degree they never were really accepted by or treated as equals by the Coasties. They were just that novelty, a friend/roommate from "what midwestern state" who was nice, but just didn't have the network in NYC that could benefit them.

That's probably true if they went for the "make money" majors -- but if they did that then their peers were as-sholes to begin with.

There was absolutely no difference in the way midwesterners and coasties were treated at my school by my friends, because we simply did. not. give. a. sh-t. We were students. The moment we stepped on campus we were "from" Ithaca. It was our parents who lived in whatever backwater sh-thole we came from. That wasn't us. We were there to get the f-ck away from them and hopefully never, ever go back.
 
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The conservatives in flyover states like Iowa have been brainwashed by Faux News to believe that all Democrats want to take your guns, hate religion, and kill your babies. It's freaking ridiculous.

The liberals in coastal states like California have been brainwashed by Clinton News Network to believe that all Republicans want to take your abortion rights, hate the environment, and kill brown people. It's freaking ridiculous.

Oh the dichotomy ...
 
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The liberals in coastal states like California have been brainwashed by Clinton News Network to believe that all Republicans want to take your abortion rights, hate the environment, and kill brown people. It's freaking ridiculous.

Oh the dichotomy ...

Are you blind?

That's exactly what has happened policy wise under Republican control. None of the things that you fear from Democrats has EVER been passed by a legislature. You telling us our fears are wrong and yours are valid is complete and utter ****ing bull****.
 
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Are you blind?

That's exactly what has happened policy wise under Republican control. None of the things that you fear from Democrats has EVER been passed by a legislature. You telling us our fears are wrong and yours are valid is complete and utter ****ing bull****.


FTW

Goes to show the power of Faux and the propaganda machine though.


And it doesn't matter if not every Republican wants those things. They continually vote for people who do and who try to make them happen.
 
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Baloney. They understand each other all too well, they just don't like what it means.

Coasties definitely can at least "get" flyovers because flyovers are 30 miles outside every city in America. If you live in Philadelphia and want to get flyovers you drive to King of Prussia and you're waist deep in them.

Flyovers think they "get" coasties because they turn on the TeeVee and see Jimmy Kimmel. There's some truth to that, but it's mediated by wealth. Flyovers in actual flyover states rarely ever see real people coasties, whereas coasties see real people flyovers all the f-cking time.
 
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Are you blind?

That's exactly what has happened policy wise under Republican control. None of the things that you fear from Democrats has EVER been passed by a legislature. You telling us our fears are wrong and yours are valid is complete and utter ****ing bull****.

Really? Abortion is illegal? And it's legal to kill brown people*? Uh ... what?

I'm telling you the "two sides" are two sides of the same coin and are being played.


*Magic badge conversations aside mind you.
 
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Coasties definitely can at least "get" flyovers because flyovers are 30 miles outside every city in America. If you live in Philadelphia and want to get flyovers you drive to King of Prussia and you're waist deep in it.

Flyovers think they "get" coasties because they turn on the TeeVee and see Jimmy Kimmel. There's some truth to that. but flyovers rarely ever see real people coasties, whereas coasties see real people flyovers all the f-cking time.


Maybe we see you and cross the street.

;)
 
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Really? Abortion is illegal? And it's legal to kill brown people*? Uh ... what?

I'm telling you the "two sides" are two sides of the same coin and are being played.


*Magic badge conversations aside mind you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/01/14-states-have-passed-laws-making-it-harder-to-get-an-abortion-already-this-year/?utm_term=.9dbeea6963eb

Red states are doing everything they can to make an abortion more difficult to get. I predict that abortion will become illegal in the next 5-10 years if Trump gets another SC justice through, if the R's decide they don't need the issue as a fundraiser anymore.
 
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Coasties definitely can at least "get" flyovers because flyovers are 30 miles outside every city in America. If you live in Philadelphia and want to get flyovers you drive to King of Prussia and you're waist deep in them.

Flyovers think they "get" coasties because they turn on the TeeVee and see Jimmy Kimmel. There's some truth to that, but it's mediated by wealth. Flyovers in actual flyover states rarely ever see real people coasties, whereas coasties see real people flyovers all the f-cking time.

As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, neither understands the other.

KoP, PA, and "the TeeVee" are just trips to the zoo for the sides.
 
Re: POTUS 45.22 - The Genius of Donald Trump

Really? Abortion is illegal? And it's legal to kill brown people*? Uh ... what?

I'm telling you the "two sides" are two sides of the same coin and are being played.


*Magic badge conversations aside mind you.

Lost cause. Just another Trump, Hannity, Rush Limbaugh Bobo. I won't bother to list all the anti-abortion things that have been passed by legislatures across the country. Or what your party has done to Planned Parenthood. That doesn't even scratch the surface of what they've done to voting rights in this country. As for Brown People try being brown and a Muslim in this country for 5 minutes. Let's not even get started on the differences between Vegas and New York and Republicans response to it.

Read post #605 again. Every single one of those things is lies that you've been taught while your part has chipped away at everything this country has stood for. Send the Statue of Liberty back to France. It doesn't belong here.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/01/14-states-have-passed-laws-making-it-harder-to-get-an-abortion-already-this-year/?utm_term=.9dbeea6963eb

Red states are doing everything they can to make an abortion more difficult to get. I predict that abortion will become illegal in the next 5-10 years if Trump gets another SC justice through, if the R's decide they don't need the issue as a fundraiser anymore.

The last thing in the world the Republicans want is a change in the status of abortion. It's perfect right now. It's an evergreen fundraising bonanza, it takes people like joe who would vote Democratic on virtually every other issue and makes them a LOCKED IN Republican vote. And they can force their mistresses or daughters or presumably slaves coming soon or what have you to get abortions whenever they knock them up.

If Roe was overturned the next election would go 70% Democratic as every dumbsumb-tch Republican voter looked at tax policy for the first time since 1974 and said, "holy--- WHAT THE F-CK????!!!!"
 
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dave, I'm adding two bold words to your statement. Apologies, but I think you'll accept it.

Red states are doing everything they can to make a (Constitutionally protected) abortion more difficult to get.

Blue states are doing everything they can to make a Constitutionally protected right to bear arm more difficult to get.

Dichotomy.
 
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