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POTUS 45.22 - The Genius of Donald Trump

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rufus said:
We had 3% under Obama. You know, back when the economy sucked.

So far, Trumpy's economic numbers have been on par, or slightly worse than they were under Obama.

Trumpy promised us 5%. Said it would be easy. I guess we gotta wait for those globalist billionaires to get their tax cuts.
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Assuming we're both talking about the same thing in GDP growth, we did not have 3% under Obama for a single quarter. But don't let facts get in the way.

And show me where he promised 5%.
 
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rufus said:
So Papadopoulis was just the "coffee boy" for the campaign.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michael-caputo-papadopoulos-coffee-boy

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the "coffee boy" be stuck hanging around somewhere anonymously in the background til one of the power players snaps his fingers and commands him to fetch his latte, and not be sitting at the principles table while policy positions are being discussed?

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/papadopoulos-trump-photo-e1509381955185.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

That's our Georgy Boy right there, almost center of the picture, Sessions at one end of the table, Trumpy at the other. But nobody at the campaign even knew who he was.
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The best part now, it really doesn't matter what WE think who Papadopoulos is, it's more about what he knows and what he is giving up.

Same with Manafort and Gates.

How long are they willing to sit in prison for people above them? What are they going to give to Muller, with full evidence of what they are saying?
 
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Bannon's telling Trump to just defund Mueller's investigation instead of firing him.
 
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rufus said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/12/29/donald-trump-keeps-moving-the-goal-post-for-economic-growth/?utm_term=.d9b5b3acdee5

Done. So simple even an InfoWars junkie could do it.
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So he says they're shooting for a reasonable goal of 3%, which they accomplished in 6 months. That was a timeframe much shorter than anticipated by him. So he thinks 5-6% is possible. That doesn't mean they're shooting for it yet, but it certainly looks like the issuing of a challenge. This is straight from the quotes the Washington [com]Post wrote in what you cited. CEOs issue long term challenges all the time. Only anti-Trump mincers like you would actually believe that means he's moving the goalposts, and that not turning it around at the snap of a finger is unacceptable. Are you not happy that we're doing well? Do you want America to fail? Sometimes I wonder.

BTW, the article even admits Obama was stagnant around 2%.
 
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Economic numbers don't mean **** to the middle class or below. Companies are sitting on trillions. Tax cuts do nothing to free up stagnant cash.
 
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Kepler said:
You're right. He said 6%.

https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/09/28/donald-trump-says-tax-plan-could-lift-gdp-growth-to-6/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanel...-us-six-percent-economic-growth/#4ad806dd6953

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-20/fact-check-trump-says-he-d-push-gdp-growth-5-or-6
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Do you expect him to do this overnight? These projections are based on a plan that's not even in place yet, but you still think it has to happen overnight. This takes brain-dead leftist to a whole new level.

3% is definitely a good start, especially when it's entirely based on consumer confidence.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Economic numbers don't mean **** to the middle class or below. Companies are sitting on trillions. Tax cuts do nothing to free up stagnant cash.
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And why do you suppose someone would sit on cash? And I'm talking anyone, not just a private business. I'm going to assume you have a bank and/or retirement account with some cash in it; if you don't, you probably wouldn't be able to answer this follow-up question about it anyway. Why are you holding onto that, and not just giving it up because some greedy twerp is attempting to shame you into doing so? This question is not rhetorical.
 
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For someone to say they didn't vote for him, it's interesting to see so much defense of dump.
 
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alfablue said:
For someone to say they didn't vote for him, it's interesting to see so much defense of dump.
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Just because you don't vote for the person doesn't mean you can't still support him in something specific that's being done. Maybe you should give it a try and find some common ground. If you find yourself still clinging to identity/partisan/whatever-you-want-to-call-it politics, replace references of "Trump" with "Sanders". Would you actually support it if you didn't know it was from someone you're so brainwashed to bitterly hate?

Heck, I find flaws in Trump's stuff all the time, and I call it out on here. I'm waiting for an actual tax bill. I'd be more than happy to challenge it. And you know what? I will make that pledge here and now. Find the bill, and I will read it and give my criticisms of it. They might not be the same as yours, but we'll see.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
And why do you suppose someone would sit on cash? And I'm talking anyone, not just a private business. I'm going to assume you have a bank and/or retirement account with some cash in it; if you don't, you probably wouldn't be able to answer this follow-up question about it anyway. Why are you holding onto that, and not just giving it up because some greedy twerp is attempting to shame you into doing so? This question is not rhetorical.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/magazine/why-are-corporations-hoarding-trillions.html

Savings. Savings are important everywhere. Corporations are getting so huge that they save for "just in case" or "the next big thing" and they know it will cost a bundle. So, they sit on it. States that are smart save for a rainy day. Republican Governor in Minnesota failed at that and practically turned the State into Kansas. Current Democratic Governor fixed that problem and now we have savings. Republican Houses want to send that savings back to the taxpayers which will subsequently turn us back on the Kansas track.

You want to fix the economy tax cuts aren't going to do anything. You want to fix the economy you need to find a way to get the 1%ers money down to the 99%. People in my income bracket spend their money. People in the 1% do not. Spending drives the economy. This is a tax policy problem, not a capital availability problem. Start treating labor the same or better than Capital instead of the other way around and we'll get some economic activity again.

They could build more stuff and sell more stuff but that would require paying workers more stuff and they're just not willing to do that. Add that to a tax policy that pushes everything to billionaire's and you get the big problem.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Economic numbers don't mean **** to the middle class or below. Companies are sitting on trillions. Tax cuts do nothing to free up stagnant cash.
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It'd be less of an issue if it was truly stagnant, that money is mostly going toward buying political power as far as I can tell and that's far worse (not that the alternative isn't still bad).
 
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trixR4kids said:
It'd be less of an issue if it was truly stagnant, that money is mostly going toward buying political power as far as I can tell and that's far worse (not that the alternative isn't still bad).
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Or buying back shares to keep propping up their stock price, making the 1% happy.
 
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