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POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

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The electorate is weird. From the polling over the last week plus it appears that over the course of the Houston / Florida responses, Trump's approval has gone up a little... while his favorability has continued to drop.
 
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The trolling was by HRC on Bernie supporters (that she'll need in 2020 if she takes one last kick at the can). She's not doing herself any favors.

Dude your trolling is flipping weak...
 
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The electorate is weird. From the polling over the last week plus it appears that over the course of the Houston / Florida responses, Trump's approval has gone up a little... while his favorability has continued to drop.

THat's because Trump isn't on the front page. National disasters will fade, orange skin and urine-soaked sheets will not.

Give it time.
 
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Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

NEW: Joe Manchin (D-WV) says Congress should explore a single payer health care system.

Guess what's very likely to be in the Democratic agenda in 2020 despite Clinton and Kaine.
 
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Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

NEW: Joe Manchin (D-WV) says Congress should explore a single payer health care system.

Guess what's very likely to be in the Democratic agenda in 2020 despite Clinton and Kaine.

After Baucus and Tester, Manchin's endorsement is essentially telling us that rural / red state Dems believe Single Payer will play in Peoria. This is GREAT news! Other than radical tax reform I don't see a better and more immediate opportunity to revive the middle class than SP. Considering Baucus was more responsible than any other Democrat except maybe Lieberman for having to settle for RomneyCare, the fact that even a villainous old toad like him has gone on the record strongly for it means it is testing very well among moderate Democrats. The GOP really shot themselves in the head over all this. Or rather Trump did by winning. They could have milked Repeal & Replace for the next decade if only he hadn't given them a sweep and called their bluff. :)

Push hard on this. Stay away from blacks and women and push hard, hard, hard on medical care, which greatly benefits... blacks and women! Make this the keystone first to take Congress and then to take the White House. Use this as a shovel to bludgeon the Corporate Cons' brains in.
 
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The Crime Family feels Mueller's breath on their necks. They're starting to panic.

If I didn't think there was a 40% chance of a military coup by the orcs financed by the Russians, I'd be enjoying this.

But for pragmatism's sake, yes, there is nothing the Feds like more than some pinhead from the EOP demonizing... the Feds. Bold move, Cotton.
 
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Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

NEW: Joe Manchin (D-WV) says Congress should explore a single payer health care system.

Guess what's very likely to be in the Democratic agenda in 2020 despite Clinton and Kaine.

So they're also admitting PPACA is a complete and utter failure?
 
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So they're also admitting PPACA is a complete and utter failure?

More like a stepping stone. Clearly the public is on board with charging the wealthy higher taxes to pay for health care, plus the public is reaallly defensive about Medicaid/Medicare regardless of political affiliations. Next step would be, given what we know now, expanded Medicaid for anybody not insured through their employer. Once you clear that hurdle, you can look into single payer. That's a ways off however.
 
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Obamacare has three problems. First, it was born a conservative con to try to prevent real medical care. We tried to improve on it but it had bad genes. Starting over with Single Payer like this is an emetic for their poison pills.

Second, it was separable from other health care so Republicans could attack it with impunity. Extending a current system prevents the Republicans from doing that without infuriating the install base of the existing system.

The third problem is that the states are still in control of implementation and Medicare for All shares that problem. Up until a few years ago I would have said that was critical, but I'm not sure anymore. The red states eventually have to face the consequences of voting for a terrorist organization. A system in which anyone from a blue state has Single Payer while people in red states always face the possibility of their own state f-cking them over is a just system. In some places voters will reject the GOP. In others they will fulfill Mencken's Law and get what they deserve good and hard.
 
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It is a (sacrificial) means to an end.

It was a Republican firewall to keep as many people uninsured as possible. Even that is of course too much for the Spencerian do-chebags of the GOP, but if we can turn it into the camel's nose how fitting. And funny.
 
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I suppose it depends what you're looking for.

No, none of them are bad for the Democratic party. Done.

They may not be the best ones, but they are not bad. She got the nomination for a reason- enough Democratic voters like what she was proposing.

Some of dump's (lack of) policy is bad for the Republican party.
 
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Bloom County Today:

Steve Dallas: This is unacceptably insane weather. Conservatives and Penguins need to stop the denial and have the balls to name the blame for this climate chaos.
Opus: I'm ready to do that.
Steve Dallas: Just lay it right out there.
Opus: Hillary's Email's.
Steve Dallas: Lock Her UP!!!!!

This sums up the United States of America right now. The whole RED country. Every inch of it.
 
Sahil Kapur‏Verified account @sahilkapur

NEW: Joe Manchin (D-WV) says Congress should explore a single payer health care system.

Guess what's very likely to be in the Democratic agenda in 2020 despite Clinton and Kaine.
It seems like a good idea on paper...

As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

No.

Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.
 
Re: POTUS 45.19: Being Douced by Irma makes me sad!!

It seems like a good idea on paper...

As Ross Perot said in 1992 "That giant sucking sound..."

How are we going to pay for it??? After all the goodies get tacked on, the discretionary $$ in the Federal budget will be immaterial. The Feds %#^&## up everything they touch with Empire building and stacks of red tape.

No.

Find a way to improve the delivery of care first, as opposed to insurance, then we can talk.

Medicare For All

This plan has been estimated to cost $1.38 trillion per year.
The Plan Would Be Fully Paid For By:

A 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers.
Revenue raised: $630 billion per year.
A 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households.
Revenue raised: $210 billion per year.This year, a family of four taking the standard deduction can have income up to $28,800 and not pay this tax under this plan.A family of four making $50,000 a year taking the standard deduction would only pay $466 this year.
Progressive income tax rates.
Revenue raised: $110 billion a year.Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:

37 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
43 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
48 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2013, only 113,000 households, the top 0.08 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2013, only 13,000 households, just 0.01 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)
Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work.
Revenue raised: $92 billion per year.Warren Buffett, the second wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. The reason is that he receives most of his income from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from work. This plan will end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on household income above $250,000.
Limit tax deductions for rich.
Revenue raised: $15 billion per year. Under Bernie’s plan, households making over $250,000 would no longer be able to save more than 28 cents in taxes from every dollar in tax deductions. This limit would replace more complicated and less effective limits on tax breaks for the rich including the AMT, the personal exemption phase-out and the limit on itemized deductions.
The Responsible Estate Tax.
Revenue raised: $21 billion per year.This provision would tax the estates of the wealthiest 0.3 percent (three-tenths of 1 percent) of Americans who inherit over $3.5 million at progressive rates and close loopholes in the estate tax.
Savings from health tax expenditures.
Revenue raised: $310 billion per year. Several tax breaks that subsidize health care (health-related “tax expenditures”) would become obsolete and disappear under a single-payer health care system, saving $310 billion per year.Most importantly, health care provided by employers is compensation that is not subject to payroll taxes or income taxes under current law. This is a significant tax break that would effectively disappear under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new single-payer program instead of employer-based health care.
 
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