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POTUS 45.17 - Section 4 of Amendment 25

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After Charlottesville McAuliffe has the most name recognition.
Only the deep party wonks know the other potential names right now.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
After Charlottesville McAuliffe has the most name recognition.
Only the deep party wonks know the other potential names right now.
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No normal person in this country outside of VA knows who McAuliffe is.
 
unofan said:
No he wouldn't. He'd play as well as Al Gore, John Kerry, or Bob Dole did. He's a boring uncharismatic old white guy with tons of political baggage.

Your concern trolling sucks.
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This probably says a lot about me, but I don't think he's that boring and uncharismatic. I'm not sure any of the three you mention are a good comparison to what the 2020 election will look like. I would also add that any of those three likely would win 2020 in a landslide(against Trump at least.)
 
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The Sicatoka said:
I said "the most". I didn't say how much. ;)

That is the Ds problem right now: who's truly their best hope? The senior Senator from NY?
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The way the primaries are covered now everyone is going to know who the Democratic nominee is by July 2020 and that's all that matters. Christ, people know who John Kasich is. Before the election his wife probably forgot his name half the time.
 
The Sicatoka said:
I said "the most". I didn't say how much. ;)

That is the Ds problem right now: who's truly their best hope? The senior Senator from NY?
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He wouldn't have much of a chance because of his religion and views on gun control, which is a shame because I think he's actually pretty likable. He's pretty reasonable on the vast majority of issues too.
 
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Drew S. said:
This probably says a lot about me, but I don't think he's that boring and uncharismatic. I'm not sure any of the three you mention are a good comparison to what the 2020 election will look like. I would also add that any of those three likely would win 2020 in a landslide(against Trump at least.)
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If you're into policy you don't think they're boring. You and I are into policy. That puts us in a 1% minority among voters. Half of the voters in this country can't spell "policy,"and half the people who can are watching this instead of the debates.
 
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Drew S. said:
This probably says a lot about me, but I don't think he's that boring and uncharismatic. I'm not sure any of the three you mention are a good comparison to what the 2020 election will look like. I would also add that any of those three likely would win 2020 in a landslide(against Trump at least.)
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Me too I'm sure. I like Hillary. That puts me in the 1% of the population category.
 
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Different Topic.

Read in the paper yesterday that Turtle Boy is indicating that there is no way in hell that Congress won't raise the debt ceiling. I would imagine to do that he'll have to make it clean so he can get the Democrats to support it. That'd be political suicide for him but he's used to that. Republicans are like zombies. No matter how much they try to kill themselves they never die.

And then I saw this gem.

At a rally in Phoenix, President Donald J. Trump threatened to shut down the government if Congress did not agree to finance construction of a Mexican border wall.
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If that **** is in the debt ceiling bill Turtle Boy will get zero Democrats to vote for it.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
If that **** is in the debt ceiling bill Turtle Boy will get zero Democrats to vote for it.
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It won't be. The debt ceiling is going to be clean. Hopefully the GOP will finally realize how stupid it is and just eliminate it. Like the Lannisters, the US has to pay its debts.
 
Drew S. said:
This probably says a lot about me, but I don't think he's that boring and uncharismatic. I'm not sure any of the three you mention are a good comparison to what the 2020 election will look like. I would also add that any of those three likely would win 2020 in a landslide(against Trump at least.)
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Then Hillary should've beaten Trump in a landslide, because she's essentially a female version of John Kerry.

Yet that didn't happen. I wonder why...
 
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James Clapper, former director of national intelligence, says he questions President Donald J. Trump's fitness for office, his speech was "downright scary and disturbing"
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No ****. Never would have guessed.
 
unofan said:
Then Hillary should've beaten Trump in a landslide, because she's essentially a female version of John Kerry.

Yet that didn't happen. I wonder why...
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That election happened before Trump was actually president. Unless there is a substantial turnaround Trump has shown he isn't a good president.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
McAuliffe

- did all the right actions in Charlottesville for his base
- is Governor of a key state that needs to go blue for a D to win
- would have the Clinton machine behind him

Don't disregard him.
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McAuliffe only won VA because the GOP found an even worse candidate to run. To go further, he only won the primary because no one else wanted it. He's the placeholder of all placeholders. Literally a sack of wet flour would have been as acceptable as long as it kept The Cooch out of the Governor's mansion.
 
Drew S. said:
That election happened before Trump was actually president. Unless there is a substantial turnaround Trump has shown he isn't a good president.
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Which was readily apparent beforehand, so pardon me if I don't believe the blinders are coming off unless and until it actually happens.
 
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Kepler said:
Small sample size so far. I like her ambition and intelligence. I like that she was aggressive during the Sessions hearings. She's "Obama with Boobs" (and I like boobs) and that is my explanation for the hype.

On the downside she has a corporate streak and, well, she's Obama with boobs: she'll sell out the hindmost to court the fat wallet donors. She's not going to reverse the rush to lethal inequality in any significant way; she'll nibble around the edges or possibly even exacerbate it like every Democrat since JFK.

Kamala Harris vs Gavin Newsom is shaping up to be a qualifier for the nomination frontrunner. I'm happy with that -- they seem like solid representatives of the moderate and liberal wings, respectively. They're both smart and ruthless campaigners and they're both telegenic and charismatic which is good for attracting the lofos. And they're both under 900 years old, which is a nice change for the Methuselah Party.

I am cautiously optimistic. Rover is gonna LOVE her.
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As much as I wish he would I dont see any chance Newsom runs. He is running for Governor of California and he isnt going to leave that after 2 years to run for President. And Kamala Harris has zero chance because A) she is a woman and B) she dares have an opinion. The Left has already started to knock her down and will do to her what they did to Hillary.
 
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