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POTUS 45.10 - Stage Two in Perpetuity

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Trump is a buffoon but I actually hope he didn't put anyone's life at risk. Whatever gotcha moment I'd love to see happen I don't want to see innocent people perish. Contrast that to his defenders that won't give an inch of consideration that just maybe something doesn't smell right with this man in charge. It's disgusting.

Trump's supporters are, not to put too fine a point on it, the ignorant. I heard a wonderful call on XM this morning, where the Trump-supporter caller in quiet and measured tones explained he didn't want educated Trump voters, because in the past whenever educated people have joined the coalition with "us" (i.e., "they took our jerbs!") then as soon as the government was seated the educated conservatives betrayed them.

The Trump base is the Khmer Rouge. They want to take everybody with a book or glasses out to the fields and murder them. MAGA.

The thing we've learned about those groups in the past is they keep closing the circle, ejecting and eliminating first the opposition, then their own supporters if they find them underzealous.

The imposition of a murderous regime always leaves its leaders afraid: afraid of losing power, failing to prevent vengeance, and facing betrayal by ambitious rivals. The Khmer Rouge repeatedly interrogated their own members, imprisoning and executing them on the slightest suspicion of treachery or sabotage.

I wouldn't live to see David Brooks garroted live on Fox from the Killing Fields of Branson, but he would deserve it.
 
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Early retirements are the canary in the landslide coalmine.
 
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Early retirements are the canary in the landslide coalmine.
I'm actually excited about turning over everything in 2018. I hope every single Republican possible loses because they enabled Trump. And I'm a conservative.
 
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I'm actually excited about turning over everything in 2018. I hope every single Republican possible loses because they enabled Trump. And I'm a conservative.

Congratulations, you have fell for the globalist trap of the opposition mind.
 
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You are not condemning it, either. You are among the many pointing out the legal "excuse", though. Which is very much on the side of defending it.

All of the Hillary rage is pretty danged quiet.
Sorry. ZOMG DRUMP NEEDS TO BURNED AT THE STAKE! EMAILZ DID IT TO SAINT HILLARY! OUTRAGE!

I've already said Trump needs to be removed from office. Stating that what he did was legal is not excusing his actions. It is merely pointing out that he did not break any laws. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
About that... Donald Trump told he cannot land helicopter on sacred temple, must use cable car like everyone else. Tells Israel to "******* themselves," and cancels leg of trip.

@Newsweek: Trump couldn't land his helicopter on Israel's ancient fortress—so he canceled his visit, refusing to take cable car https://t.co/51lw5z8nPr https://t.co/CIGUB9Bwx9
 
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About that... Donald Trump told he cannot land helicopter on sacred temple, must use cable car like everyone else. Tells Israel to "******* themselves," and cancels leg of trip.

Please tell me that isn't real.
 
Please tell me that isn't real.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-cance...after-israel-blocks-helicopter-landing-611287

President Donald Trump has canceled a planned visit and speech at the ancient mountain fortress of Masada in Israel after authorities told him that he could not land his helicopter on top of the UNESCO-listed site.

Instead, Trump will now deliver a speech at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem. It comes after an Israeli Air Force (IAF) regulation that prevents helicopters landing at the summit of the Masada site, according to Israel’s Channel 2 broadcaster.

Unlike former presidents who have made the trip, such as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Trump declined to land the helicopter at a base of the historic site and then take the cable car up, preferring to cancel the visit altogether.

News of the president’s cancellation stirred reactions among observers of the American-Israeli relationship and officials inside the country. “Well Masada was too hot, so we found a great spot instead for POTUS,” Eitan Weiss, deputy spokesperson for the Israeli Foreign Ministry tweeted, appearing to mock the reason for the cancellation. “@IsraelMuseum. The Dead Sea Scrolls make an important setting.”
 
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In regards to what secret could be wholly appropriate to pass on to the Russians. Of course we don't know for sure, but it's been reported that the information was in relation to ISIS developing bombs disguised as laptops or other electronic devices. Since ISIS purportedly blew up Flight 9268 with 219 Russian civilians aboard about a year and a half ago, I can certainly see how sharing information about that so that the Russians can take precautions to protect their own citizens might well be deemed "wholly appropriate". You can't?
Classified information is, by definition, of value and importance. But the part you’ve failed (refused?) to comprehend in multiple posts now is that the process and sources by which that information is gathered are at least as important as the intel itself, and are often far more important than specific bits of information.

What if the laptop bomb stuff was disinformation that the Russians themselves had fed to someone to see who that someone was talking to and now it circles back to them via the POTUS? And now they know who their security breach is? What if they were part of the laptop bomb planning and thought the information was secure and were passing more information along the same channel but now have been told by the POTUS that it’s not secure? What if they had that information narrowed down as having come from a few possible sources but knew only one of those sources had been seen meeting with the Israelis recently? And on and on like that --- that’s why intelligence is a profession with people who devote their lives to it, it’s complicated, to say the least.

I’m not saying any of the above is actually the case, it’s probably not, but it could be. And anything you tell the Russians is like filling in a few squares on the Sudoku board for them, it makes it just that little bit easier for them to fill in the rest of the squares. Sure, maybe the information is so critical that you choose to make that trade off and yes, a President can legally share it but anyone with even a semblance of a brain would discuss it with his team ahead of time, not barge into the Oval Office and blurt it out as a brag about how much you know, like you just heard Bob from accounting was sleeping with his secretary. If it was so critical to pass this information to the Russians, it should have been discussed with the national security team, packaged properly to provide just the needed information and nothing more, and sent anonymously via some third-party back channel, basically, it should have been done professionally, but that’s clearly not what we’ve got with this clown in the Oval Office.
 
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Such a child.

That wasn't the noun that occurred to me as I was reading the story.

I'll give this guy credit for one thing. He's making me see how much I am proud to be American, because every time he embarrasses us I want to kick his wrinkled old as-s back to his sh-tbird hotel. F-ck you, you f-cking inept, corrupt ignoramus.

Trump on foreign tour is the equivalent of dragging the American flag through a pigsty.
 
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That wasn't the noun that occurred to me as I was reading the story.

I'll give this guy credit for one thing. He's making me see how much I am proud to be American, because every time he embarrasses us I want to kick his wrinkled old as-s back to his sh-tbird hotel. F-ck you, you f-cking inept, corrupt ignoramus.

Trump on foreign tour is the equivalent of dragging the American flag through a pigsty.

That's an interesting test method. I'm feeling similar things.
 
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I have fell for the idea that it's dangerous to hire the worst American to run the country


Why everyone can't unite around this idea is baffling.
 
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And I'm always proud to be American. Always.


I'm not proud of all Americans.

Therein lies the difference.
 
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Many conservatives would rather see the country dragged through the mud than acknowledge that the "elitists" were right.


No doubt.

That's related to the point I made earlier.

They don't care if they are wrong, they just don't want you to be right.
 
No doubt.

That's related to the point I made earlier.

They don't care if they are wrong, they just don't want you to be right.
And they'll literally sacrifice the future of their grandkids and great grandkids to do this. Just awful.
 
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