Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

[bakdraft21]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

I heard it coming from you, didn't hear a single curse word and cheer on dude! Welcome to Hale Arena. Nothing that came out of your mouth should warrant that, but then again its Hale's world. We get the same thing now in Plattsburgh. Now you can see why us old school fans get so P'd Off at this new school crap.

10-4, if these people who want to censor the fans spent 1 game at the old romney when I was playing they would have a heart attack.......the student section was greeeeeat, but thought we could have had a few more non-students cheering........????

 

[lakerfan]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

--------------------------------------------------------I think I agree with some of your comments but I had a few of my own that I wanted to make. First, I thought it was disrespectful for the Oswego players to move constantly during the Naional Anthem and to leave the line and start skating toward the bench before the anthem was completed. Also, thought that perhaps their style of aggressiveness and lack of discipline on the ice would have improved since last year with the new commers. We all remember Ward Smith"s attack. The major penalty and also punch to Ryan Corey's face did not show such discipline. Concerning the game, yes without a doubt they have some talented forwards but defensively, I was not impresssed. They don't handle the puck well and especially when they are pressured in their end. Goaltending, also does not impress me. He doesn' t handle the puck well and looks good when he doesn't have much pressure, like when they play Buffalo State. He can be had. I thought had one of the shots off the post or crossbar gone in for the Cards, it might have turned out differently. Having said all that, I will give my positives now. Great atmosphere, kids were fine,having a good time. Even let me ahead in line for a coffee. Rink is superb and good acoustics. Overall a good game to watch. Look forward to another visit to Oswego in March.

Let me see if I have this right. Lack of discipline, not impressed with the defense and goal tending but they BEAT you twice. Man I would hate to your opinion of your team!!!!

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Let me see if I have this right. Lack of discipline, not impressed with the defense and goal tending but they BEAT you twice. Man I would hate to your opinion of your team!!!!

So let me see if I have this right... when Plattsburgh went undefeated against the Lakers in 06-07 including a 4-1 win over the Lakers in Oswego they were better then Oswego, yet Oswego won the National Title, so in all actuality Plattsburgh was the #1 team that year because they were better then Oswego..... Someday you will realize just because you win a game or two does not automaticly make you a "better" team. Sometimes the "better" team doesn't win. Or sometimes the "better" team can have issues with their team. I will say this the Oswego defense has been better this year then years past.

 

[ColdInRomney]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

So let me see if I have this right... when Plattsburgh went undefeated against the Lakers in 06-07 including a 4-1 win over the Lakers in Oswego they were better then Oswego, yet Oswego won the National Title, so in all actuality Plattsburgh was the #1 team that year because they were better then Oswego..... Someday you will realize just because you win a game or two does not automaticly make you a "better" team. Sometimes the "better" team doesn't win. Or sometimes the "better" team can have issues with their team. I will say this the Oswego defense has been better this year then years past.

Couldn't agree with you more. The last three years I though the Cards had the edge. This year I think the Lakers have the edge.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Couldn't agree with you more. The last three years I though the Cards had the edge. This year I think the Lakers have the edge.

The years Ellis during Plattsburghs 9-0-1 record Oswego had some really good teams in those games, and Plattsburgh was able to pull out some huge wins. There were games that Plattsburgh won against Oswego that they probably shouldn't have and games where Oswego was the better team.

The 06 5-5 tie....Plattsburgh was outshot 31-12 over the final 2 periods and overtime. '08 when Oswego was up 3-1 going into the third period.

That 07-08 team was scary but couldn't put it together...

 

[lakerfan]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

So let me see if I have this right... when Plattsburgh went undefeated against the Lakers in 06-07 including a 4-1 win over the Lakers in Oswego they were better then Oswego, yet Oswego won the National Title, so in all actuality Plattsburgh was the #1 team that year because they were better then Oswego..... Someday you will realize just because you win a game or two does not automaticly make you a "better" team. Sometimes the "better" team doesn't win. Or sometimes the "better" team can have issues with their team. I will say this the Oswego defense has been better this year then years past.

Where did I say that Oswego is the better team, all I said is that they beat Plattsburgh twice. You are saying that I said, Oswego is the better team. I have been around sports my entire life, playing and coaching and I know that it takes more than a couple of wins to prove that you are the better team.
I just didn't understand how someone can put down a team that has beaten his team twice. I just see it as him not giving Oswego any respect.
Good Luck the rest year and I'm sure we'll see each other later on. And the old saying is that it is HARD to beat the same team 3 times in a year.

 

[JMD9]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

A very lucky and happy kid got his stick on the way off the ice last night...

I saw him taping it in the locker room on Wednesday and commented on how he shouldn't use it against Plattsburgh - being that its a red stick - and he said its all they sent him and that if it works, it will quiet people down. It worked its magic and is therefore unneeded... so, souvenir it is!

 

[JMD9]

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Exactly.

It's a joke. Don't even get me started on the fact that all of our SUNYAC championships and NCAA tournament banners are confined to one banner.

It's brilliant really... because once they fill up one banner... they have to make another... meaning that in 400 years there will be banners all over and each will commemorate +/- 15 titles!!! Brilliant move.... brilliant.....

 

[norm1909]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

I've been looking for this on-line, for your reading pleasure, a mere 176 pages.

2009-10 SUNYAC HANDBOOK

ICE HOCKEY OPERATING CODE begins on page 67.

Includes:

Section 5: Method of Determining Champion
A. The Conference Championship shall be determined by a six-team tournament. The Ice Hockey Coaches Committee set up the following criteria to determine the selection of the six teams. In the event of ties the following format will be used to determine seeding:
1. The best record of tied teams against each other based on Conference play (tournament play will not be considered).
2. Number of total conference wins over ties if points are equal.
3. Goal differential against each other in Conference play.
4. Goal differential against all other Conference teams.
5. Coin flip by Commissioner.
Displacement - defined as automatic bumping to lower position.
B. Format – The playoffs will start on the first Tuesday after the conclusion of the regular season. The number 1 & 2 seeds will draw byes on Tuesday,
Feb. 19th.
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - #6 seed at #3 seed
#5 seed at #4 seed
Saturday, February 27, 2010 - Lowest remaining seed at #1
Second lowest seed at #2
Saturday, March 6, 2010 - Championship
*If game ends in a tie, a 12 or 15 min. intermission and then a 20 min. sudden death overtime, If no score, 20 min. overtime continues until a winner is determined.
C. Tournament Time -- The games for the tournament will be at 7:00 p.m.
D. Officials – Assigned by ECAC.

Tournament Tickets: Adults - $5.00 per night, students - $2.00 per night.
High School students - $3.00. Courtesy tickets--4 competing colleges - 12 passes (to be used as institution desires) Two passes to each game official, if requested. If host charges more during season for games, use the host team's price for admission. No Complimentary Tickets.

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Section 10: Crowd Control

The responsibility for crowd control rests with the Director of Athletics or the designated representative of the host institution. The Directors of Athletics of the competing institutions are expected to communicate with their students and other interested fans prior to the competition to encourage enthusiastic support within the confines of good sportsmanship. The Directors of Athletics or their designated representatives (other than Coaches) shall be available at the site of the competition to assist in controlling the crowd.
The Director of Athletics or the designated representative of the host institution should be prepared to go to the public address system at the first sign of unsportsmanlike crowd behavior and request cooperation in maintaining proper playing conditions.

Only the participants, coaches, officials and authorized personnel shall be allowed in the competition area before, during and at the conclusion of competition.

Artificial noisemakers, air horns and electronic instruments are not permissible. The Director of Athletics or the designated representative of the host institution is responsible for removing such instruments from the competition area. Bands or any component thereof are not allowed to play while the competition is in progress.

The SUNYAC governing sports committees believe the conduct before, during and after the competition of all those representing the participating institutions should exemplify the highest traditions of college athletics.

No alcoholic beverages shall be sold or otherwise be made available for consumption in connection with a SUNYAC Championship, nor shall any such beverages be brought to the site during the Championship. "During the Championship" is intended to include the period from the time access to the site is available to spectators until all patrons have left the facility or area used for competition. - page 69/176

 

[mtuck20]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

I heard it coming from you, didn't hear a single curse word and cheer on dude! Welcome to Hale Arena. Nothing that came out of your mouth should warrant that, but then again its Hale's world. We get the same thing now in Plattsburgh. Now you can see why us old school fans get so P'd Off at this new school crap.

I went to see Cornell/North Dakota a couple weeks ago at Lynah. They have a chant involving an F-bomb that everyone smiles and cheers, including townies, including 7 year old kids. If its ok for Cornell, why can't it be ok for Oswego? I've missed Romney and don't make nearly as many games as I used to. Truthfully, I haven't sat at the CC for a Whiteout game yet. Sometimes by choice, sometimes by scheduling. This year I was coaching in a hockey tournament across town, and our Tournament Director scheduled us for 8PM that night. I would have gone this year. But seriously, I can probably count on 2 hands how many games I've sat in the CC. I used to never miss a home game. There's something to be said for an old, outdated, cold environment like Romney. I'd rather watch a game there than anywhere else.

 

[ColdInRomney]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

There's something to be said for an old, outdated, cold environment like Romney. I'd rather watch a game there than anywhere else.

I perfectly understand where you're coming from, but....

I watched a lot of games at Romney "back in the day" (and spent some time skating there). But speaking from my current "old fart" status, I don't miss freezing my a** off and sitting on those wooden bleachers. Yes, it had that history and hardscrabble hockey ambiance- and I still wander in there every so often and think fondly about "the good old days", but these days I sure do like my warm season ticket seat with a back on it at the CC. I still put on the gloves for "over 50" once a week, but I admit it, I'm getting old and soft...

Remember the car joke- "They sure don't make 'em like they used to- thank God!"

 

[norm1909]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

..Remember the car joke- "They sure don't make 'em like they used to- thank God!"

I must agree

 

[OZFEST]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Remy said: ".....Oswego was the better team." 1-31-10 10:20 PM

And the world is still turning on its axis!


(I am sorry I could not resist!)

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Remy said: ".....Oswego was the better team." 1-31-10 10:20 PM

And the world is still turning on its axis!


(I am sorry I could not resist!)

Yea, that 06-07 team was better....I at least can give a team credit when they are the better team on the ice. Unfortunatly some people only want to look through their green and gold glasses and just look at a score. BTW Emery said today the Cardinals have only been outplayed in one game, the 4-1 loss to Norwich. And also wouldn't say that Plattsburgh outplayed Oswego, but also said Oswego didn't outplay Plattsburgh. We will see if Oswego can end a 30 year curse this year with a healtyh Satim, Kavanagh and hopefully a full bench for 60 minutes, oh...and no Leis.

Besides, Hell already froze over when I sat in the Oswego student section and was cheering for Oswego when Adrian came to town...

 

[jerrynu26]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

I've been looking for this on-line, for your reading pleasure, a mere 176 pages.

2009-10 SUNYAC HANDBOOK

ICE HOCKEY OPERATING CODE begins on page 67.

Includes:

Just to avoid confusion for those who chose not to read the manual, the section on artificial noisemakers is not in Section 5 (championships related), but is in Section 10, which relates to Crowd Control at any SUNYAC game.

As posted, one might believe it only applied to section5.

 

[norm1909]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Just to avoid confusion for those who chose not to read the manual, the section on artificial noisemakers is not in Section 5 (championships related), but is in Section 10, which relates to Crowd Control at any SUNYAC game.

As posted, one might believe it only applied to section5.

Good catch - I've edited the original entry to make it more clear.

 

[OZFEST]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Yea, that 06-07 team was better....I at least can give a team credit when they are the better team on the ice. Unfortunatly some people only want to look through their green and gold glasses and just look at a score. BTW Emery said today the Cardinals have only been outplayed in one game, the 4-1 loss to Norwich. And also wouldn't say that Plattsburgh outplayed Oswego, but also said Oswego didn't outplay Plattsburgh. We will see if Oswego can end a 30 year curse this year with a healtyh Satim, Kavanagh and hopefully a full bench for 60 minutes, oh...and no Leis.

Besides, Hell already froze over when I sat in the Oswego student section and was cheering for Oswego when Adrian came to town...

I do remember it being cold that day......I don't own such glasses, I tend be critical of my own team if you have not noticed.

 

[Birds]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Let me see if I have this right. Lack of discipline, not impressed with the defense and goal tending but they BEAT you twice. Man I would hate to your opinion of your team!!!!

---------------------------------------------------------------My opinion of my team is THEY ARE GREAT! No complaints there. They are fast, seldom get outworked, show excellent discipline on the ice and are classy.

 

[nysportsfan29]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

Is there any word on when Satim will be back?

 

[mtuck20]

Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey - 2009/2010

I don't really think either team is better. I think they are 2 of the best hockey teams in the country. Throw in Norwich and Elmira and I think any of those teams can come out of the East. I know nothing about the west, so I won't comment. I've been around long enough to know a couple of things. You're gonna have staunch fans of any team, that see their team can do no wrong, and thats fine. I think the thing I dislike is the sour grapes. Oswego finally breaks the skid, and Card fans play the "We're still better" game. Break the home skid and we hear it again. Or its an excuse. This guy was missing, our goalie played like crap. Oswego has had guys in and out of the lineup for weeks. Important guys. They kept winning. Teams have to play through adversity. I don't think either team outplayed the other on Saturday, after watching it on tv. Oswego just ended up with more goals. But what has happened with this rivalry is it has turned into the Yankees vs the Red Sox, Plattsburgh being the Yankees. Red Sox win the series and you hear "Well we have 26 championships." Yankees win the 27th, and the fans rub it in everyones faces like they personally won it. You know what? Its a hockey game. It was played well. A team won, and they deserved to win because it was hard fought and they scored more goals. Plattsburgh could come into the Campus Center and take it from Oswego in the title game, wouldn't be a shocker. But I expect a good game.