Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
dbl A for a reason, not triple A
pwr, pwr, pwr
opinions outside placement don't factor in
dbl A for a reason, not triple A
pwr, pwr, pwr
opinions outside placement don't factor in
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PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
- Thread starter Jon
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Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
The PWR IS the reason they made it. Tough schedule and key wins equals favorable PWR. It's everything.
Anyway, you are correct in saying Massa is the real deal. When he's healthy and playing well, he's as good as anybody in the country. He was out with a concussion for a portion of the 2nd half of the season and then had a knee injury heading into NCHC playoffs. Omaha is certainly a better team when he's in the line up, which is to say that they are pretty average without him.
I would also say he's one of the most underrated goalies in college hockey. He's never been mentioned for the Mike Richter award that I know of. Nobody even knew who he was until last weekend, despite the fact that he has one of the best Save Percentages in the country. It's been rumored that he's playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. I don't blame him. I'm tired of hearing about the "top goalies" without any mention of his name.
We will see how "big his shoulders are" on Thursday. I suspect he will put that young team on his back and play like he has something to prove. But will it be enough?
BTW, there was no "torching". Omaha played well against Harvard and won a close game. They did not play well against RIT. They were able to go up 1-0 late in the game, which forced RIT to start taking chances. That is when Omaha opened it up. Their first period was crap. The second wasn't alot better.
The PWR IS the reason they made it. Tough schedule and key wins equals favorable PWR. It's everything.
Anyway, you are correct in saying Massa is the real deal. When he's healthy and playing well, he's as good as anybody in the country. He was out with a concussion for a portion of the 2nd half of the season and then had a knee injury heading into NCHC playoffs. Omaha is certainly a better team when he's in the line up, which is to say that they are pretty average without him.
I would also say he's one of the most underrated goalies in college hockey. He's never been mentioned for the Mike Richter award that I know of. Nobody even knew who he was until last weekend, despite the fact that he has one of the best Save Percentages in the country. It's been rumored that he's playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. I don't blame him. I'm tired of hearing about the "top goalies" without any mention of his name.
We will see how "big his shoulders are" on Thursday. I suspect he will put that young team on his back and play like he has something to prove. But will it be enough?
BTW, there was no "torching". Omaha played well against Harvard and won a close game. They did not play well against RIT. They were able to go up 1-0 late in the game, which forced RIT to start taking chances. That is when Omaha opened it up. Their first period was crap. The second wasn't alot better.
Jon
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manurespreader
Still upright
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
Omaha has better forwards than PC but PC has better defensemen. I think we'll see a game much like the RIT game. Low scoring, few chances.
Might open up late if Omaha scores.A lot depends on the power play.
And I don't get this "how did they make it in" from PC fans. Heck they are the ones who almost didn't make it in.
Yep.
Omaha has better forwards than PC but PC has better defensemen. I think we'll see a game much like the RIT game. Low scoring, few chances.
Might open up late if Omaha scores.A lot depends on the power play.
And I don't get this "how did they make it in" from PC fans. Heck they are the ones who almost didn't make it in.
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
I think you have some posters (fans of other programs) lumped in as PC fans. Trust me on that. As far as PC fans go there are about 25 who post here on uscho. If they are asking questions about UNO and giving you thoughts on where the Friars match up or not, then they are PC fans.
I think you have some posters (fans of other programs) lumped in as PC fans. Trust me on that. As far as PC fans go there are about 25 who post here on uscho. If they are asking questions about UNO and giving you thoughts on where the Friars match up or not, then they are PC fans.
The Zlax45
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Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
Exactly...PC couldn't consistently score all season even though they have the highest drafted forward (not sure about North Dakota) in the Frozen Four in Mark Jankowski. He tends to disappear and doesn't show his talent off well.
If PC scores 3 goals, I would put the odds of them winning at 66 percent and they go up from there.
Exactly...PC couldn't consistently score all season even though they have the highest drafted forward (not sure about North Dakota) in the Frozen Four in Mark Jankowski. He tends to disappear and doesn't show his talent off well.
If PC scores 3 goals, I would put the odds of them winning at 66 percent and they go up from there.
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
This is the first intelligent post I have seen from you and it only took 1,291 tries......wow
This is the first intelligent post I have seen from you and it only took 1,291 tries......wow
manurespreader
Still upright
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
Let's hope the reffing is better than that travesty of a basketball game last night.
I'd say it differently. If PC gets the first goal their chances are 66%.
Let's hope the reffing is better than that travesty of a basketball game last night.
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
It <b><I>was</I></b> bad; however, that's not why they lost. Wisconsin seemed afraid to play the last five minutes. When you refuse to go inside to your big player, especially when the other team's star has four fouls, then you deserve to lose. Making five passes around the perimeter when you have one or two possessions left down by more than one score is ludicrous. It's as if they just didn't know what to do...Bo Ryan was embarrassed by Coach K. I don't even think Okafor played 70% of the game and Wisconsin still couldn't beat them.
It <b><I>was</I></b> bad; however, that's not why they lost. Wisconsin seemed afraid to play the last five minutes. When you refuse to go inside to your big player, especially when the other team's star has four fouls, then you deserve to lose. Making five passes around the perimeter when you have one or two possessions left down by more than one score is ludicrous. It's as if they just didn't know what to do...Bo Ryan was embarrassed by Coach K. I don't even think Okafor played 70% of the game and Wisconsin still couldn't beat them.
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
Can't single out one play. I reffed high school basketball for 17 years. A couple of minutes earlier, the Wisconsin guard drove to the hoop and was called for an offensive foul, because they said he "warded off" the defender with his forearm. Well, yeah. The guy bumped him from the SIDE. The dribbler had established a STRAIGHT path to the basket and did not deviate - the defender broke his plane and bumped him...of course he's going to instinctively push him away. What about the call last night when Winsolow absolutely steamrolled the Wisconsin defender and they called a block? Are you kidding me? He initiated the contact when he bumped him, then tripped over him, them flattened him and they still called a block. Talking about calls is endless (and they missed that out of bounds call, too - when it went off the Duke guy's fingertip). That's why replay is also a joke (don't even get me going). What's the point when everyone sees it and then you are afraid to make the correct call anyway and you cop out by saying it's "inconclusive." That's the point, it IS inconclusive, so don't do it. Humans play, humans ref. So all I'm saying is, calls aside, Wisconsin didn't deserve to win the way they played down the stretch.
Can't single out one play. I reffed high school basketball for 17 years. A couple of minutes earlier, the Wisconsin guard drove to the hoop and was called for an offensive foul, because they said he "warded off" the defender with his forearm. Well, yeah. The guy bumped him from the SIDE. The dribbler had established a STRAIGHT path to the basket and did not deviate - the defender broke his plane and bumped him...of course he's going to instinctively push him away. What about the call last night when Winsolow absolutely steamrolled the Wisconsin defender and they called a block? Are you kidding me? He initiated the contact when he bumped him, then tripped over him, them flattened him and they still called a block. Talking about calls is endless (and they missed that out of bounds call, too - when it went off the Duke guy's fingertip). That's why replay is also a joke (don't even get me going). What's the point when everyone sees it and then you are afraid to make the correct call anyway and you cop out by saying it's "inconclusive." That's the point, it IS inconclusive, so don't do it. Humans play, humans ref. So all I'm saying is, calls aside, Wisconsin didn't deserve to win the way they played down the stretch.
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Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
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brassbonanza
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Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
Don't venture into areas you don't understand. The reviewed Flagrant 1 that was not called on the Lyles was an inexcusable departure from reality. By the book, it actually should've been a Flagrant 2, but that would involve an ejection. Should've been two foul shots for Wisconsin - any player on the court at the time if the one who took the blow cannot take them, in addition to the ball. Literally two free points right off the board, much less on a play where the officials had the benefit of replay! Evens out the equally absurd shot clock violation. Officiating all weekend was an embarrassment, but did not influence the outcome of either of the two close games.
Don't venture into areas you don't understand. The reviewed Flagrant 1 that was not called on the Lyles was an inexcusable departure from reality. By the book, it actually should've been a Flagrant 2, but that would involve an ejection. Should've been two foul shots for Wisconsin - any player on the court at the time if the one who took the blow cannot take them, in addition to the ball. Literally two free points right off the board, much less on a play where the officials had the benefit of replay! Evens out the equally absurd shot clock violation. Officiating all weekend was an embarrassment, but did not influence the outcome of either of the two close games.
manurespreader
Still upright
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
I really hope the reffing in the hockey games does not interfere with the game or penalize a team who does not deserve to be penalized.
If you are continually holding the stick of the other team hoping to get a retaliation call, shame on you.I hope you get called for it. If you fall down like you were shot because the other forward pushed on you a little, shame on you. I hope you get called for it.
I agree that Wisconsin didn't deserve to win, but the reffing was biased toward Duke and has been for a long time.( And believe me I'm no Wisconsin fan)
I really hope the reffing in the hockey games does not interfere with the game or penalize a team who does not deserve to be penalized.
If you are continually holding the stick of the other team hoping to get a retaliation call, shame on you.I hope you get called for it. If you fall down like you were shot because the other forward pushed on you a little, shame on you. I hope you get called for it.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
The flagrant that wasn't called is not in the same hemisphere as a charge/block with respect to subjectivity. The flagrant that wasn't called would be like not calling a guy standing on the faceoff dot offside. The basketball rule book is 100% crystal clear on the penalty for that play. It was a Flagrant 2 that you could get away with calling a Flagrant 1.
Not to mention Kentucky's numerous offensive mistakes after that play where they could've made up the difference. Not giving the ball to their best player, running a ridiculous 1-4 clearout set running down the shot clock for their third or fourth offensive option, mishandling fouling the opposition to extend the game, throwing the ball out of bounds on their last legitimate offensive possession of the game. The mistakes were abound.
The flagrant that wasn't called is not in the same hemisphere as a charge/block with respect to subjectivity. The flagrant that wasn't called would be like not calling a guy standing on the faceoff dot offside. The basketball rule book is 100% crystal clear on the penalty for that play. It was a Flagrant 2 that you could get away with calling a Flagrant 1.
Not to mention Kentucky's numerous offensive mistakes after that play where they could've made up the difference. Not giving the ball to their best player, running a ridiculous 1-4 clearout set running down the shot clock for their third or fourth offensive option, mishandling fouling the opposition to extend the game, throwing the ball out of bounds on their last legitimate offensive possession of the game. The mistakes were abound.
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The Zlax45
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Re: PC vs UNO; Why not a thread?
The guy stepping out of bounds was a terrible non-call too..no clue what the refs on the end line is watching there.
The guy stepping out of bounds was a terrible non-call too..no clue what the refs on the end line is watching there.